Question about 80s Synth Pop

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avoid Synergy. except for Computer Experiments Vol 1 with the pink sleeve. just avoid the rest. seriously

michael, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Chapter 13 for a new band. Most enjoyable.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Rather pathetically I scrolled down the replies hoping to be first to mention Fad Gadget as I adore him so.

Well I was beaten to the punch but here is a second shout for him. I think there is a new compilation out. Thats Fad Gadget, he's synthy and he's poppy and his song 'Life on the Line' should make you cry or you are a heartless inhuman nasty person.

DAF might be of interest, find the greatest hits or the Gold und Leibe album. Hard shouty German synth pop, empasis on shouty and German.

SPK circa 'metal dance' too. They were a mentalist dour industrial noise terror outfit who suddenly tried to be the Thomson Twins for a while. It was so much better than I just made it sound.

Alexander Blair, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Am I the only person who hates ABC?

Ally, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I love ABC, I even loved the piece on them by Paul Morely in The Face that I can remember how it looked from nearly 20 years ago, the first line was 'I have in my hand three letters'. Its my favourite bit of pop /rock journalism.

Alexander Blair, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

some more -

the normal throbbing gristle 'dream baby dream' by suicide - thee perfect synth pop record.

abc weren't synth pop.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ABC were synth pop in their first albums, and they aren't their best ones. The best ABC songs are from their post-synth pop era.

I recommend Pete Shelley's "Homosapien". Also Tubeway Army (Gary Numan's early band).

carlos, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm maybe not best placed to answer to this as I too am currently cultivating an obsession with 80s synth pop - the gayer the better - but hey, I'll add my nuggets.

No one has mentioned A Flock Of Seagulls yet, and though you may mock and you may sneer 'Wishing (I had a picture of you)' is an absolutely astounding epic synth popsong. 'I ran' and 'Space Age Love Song' are pretty fine too, but the other ones I've heard are mainly dross.

I wish I knew more about the Pet Shop Boys but I do know that 'Always on my mind' is arguably the best 80s synthpop single. If anyone can recommend some more PSB (that aren't on the best of compilation 'Discography') then I'll be hugely grateful. 'The things that dreams are made of' is a rather fabulous song too, by the Human League.

I've been told that Heaven 17 are worth checking out, and yeah 'Temptation' is a big stomping shoulder pad of a song but that 'Fascist groove thing' song is truly one of the most horrible things ever. Am I wrong?

And umm, did The Associates use synths? If not they really should've done, with that voice.

And finally, for a new band that's redoing the 80s synth thing in a rather fabulous manner - think tight white suits, think big black shades, think short black hair, think dynamic stance, think piercing beams of light, think From The Future (in an 80s sense, natch) - check out Fine China. They've only got one song but my oh my it's a wonderful song - 'We Rock Harder'. It's waiting for you on Audiogalaxy. (In actual fact, they look shit - like a shyer Pavement, but one can dream...).

Ian, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"And umm, did The Associates use synths?"
Yes yes yes!

DG, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't like A Flock Of Seagulls very much, but "Space Age Love Song" is a pretty song. I don't remember if "Rent" is on "Discography", but it´s the best Pet Shop Boys song that I can remember.

carlos, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

A-Ha and The Magnetic Fields.

charlie, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ABC wasn't synth pop? I'd say their early, biggest hits are definitely synth pop. As for anything post-'87 or so, I have no idea

g, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Vels were a brother/sister synthpop duo out of Philadelphia, I think. They put out one fine album, Velocity, and one less than fine that nonetheless yielded a great single, "Once Upon a Time". The girl sang just like an early, cartoon-like Madonna only better. I've never seen them on CD, nor any mention of them since about 1986.

Curt, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If you freaks can bring up Flock of Seagulls (though, granted, "Wishing" is ace), I don't feel particularly bad about saying that I didn't mind the occasional Howard Jones song, at least for ear candy usage. For the more off-center stuff, I'll third (or fourth) Fad Gadget, and say that SPK is indeed interesting on the Machine Age Voodoo album.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hojo was okay up to his second album. same goes for thomas dolby if he hasn;t been mentioned

g, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My favorites: Orange Juice, Dalek I Love You, OMD, YMO, Etienne Daho, Fad Gadget, Heaven 17, Human League, Japan, Section 25, Lene Lovich, Nina Hagen, Simple Minds, Ultravox, Twins, Freur

A Nairn, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh yeah, and Eurythmics. "Love is a Stranger"

A Nairn, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

for PSB it's the Alternative-compilation of their B-sides

it's funny how that album pops up from time to time on threads about PSB as their definite standard

I read that they're making an indie-album at the moment (Neil bought guitars, Johnny Marr 's gonna play them )

oh my god, no synths? maybe it's the last time we can mention them on a synth-thread

erik, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Magazine used synths in subtle ways, a little less obviously than Japan, for ambience. Both these bands were pop or rock, but they had style, something a lot of synth outfits didn't have because overuse of synths perhaps exclusively sounded tacky.

Chris and Cosey produced a lot of non-dance music too. Simple Minds in the 'Sister Feelings Call' phase used syths subtly to augment guitar rock and ended up sounding like something in between.

Eno used synth really cunningly as part of the overall instrument arsenal, admittedely best on those four 'seventies pop albums, but on other stuff too.

The no-wave bands used synths as bright angry noise which fitted with the 'tacky' aesthetic -- a million miles from those 'new-romantic' would-be orchestraters, mother of a million soft-synth soundtracks, perhaps synths worst overuse along with that 'wow' affect synths provide church goers, serious 'industrial' music adolescants, new age mumbo and most worryingly, church of dance circa 2002.

The best synth use is when you can't tell it's synth, just interesting 'sound', and I guess that's all over the place, ..'keyboards'. Eno talked of 'textures' etc.. -- used properly synths can be part of the 'studio as instrument' overall approach, and maybe you can't tell just what instrument is doing what, which means you can't imagine some guitar pose, synth make-up -- let the music be somewhat faceless, mysterious.

Example: Peter Gabriel -- deft use of synth as orchestration almost saves poxy politically self-conscious post-punk 'singer-songwriter' ?

As a marketing angle in the '80s synths out front in the 'synth bands' were like some putrid day-glo advertisement for brothels -- cf: sublime Bowie/Eno on 'Low' or '70s Scott Walker. That there is a band called low (some sort of tribute/influence in their minds ?) -- them and their music maybe the dumbest angle yet in the serious music stakes.

George Gosset, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Simple Minds in the 'Sister Feelings Call' phase used syths subtly to augment guitar rock and ended up sounding like something in between.

Er, I thought at that point Simple Minds were using guitar subtly to augment wad and wads of wierd synthy bits!!! In fact, there's some SM stuff from the early 80s that has hardly any guitars, (eg the title track from "Sons and Facination") and the "Reel to Reel Cacophony" and "Empires and Dance" albums seem to deliberately set about deconstructing normal rock 'n' roll standards. Mind you, 'Sister Feelings Call' (Is that Cher on the cover?!?!?) was one of their more "rock" albums from that period.

Back to the original question: anyone mentioned Carabet Voltaire yet? And do those funny "new wave" video bands like The Buggles and New Musik count?

Old Fart!!!!, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ABC bigger hits were synth pop, but not ABC best song.

George is right. Magazine used synths and they were fantastic. We can say the same thing about a lot of great post punk bands. But I think they're not synth pop. When Emma posted this topic she explained what kind of music she was talking about.

(Anyway, long life to Magazine, Eno, solo Pete Shelley and "synth punks" D.A.F.)

carlos, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Re : Simple Minds. Charlie Burchill played a guitar synth lots in the early 80's. FWIW. So everyone's right. Who cares?

Dr. C, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Cabaret Voltaire's Some Bizarre stuff is right on the edge, yeah. Microphonies would be a good choice, or the new Original Sound of Sheffield compilation. A bit darker than many of the other choices, though, admittedly.

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm glad someone else mentioned Dalek I - a brilliant band who are sorely neglected by just about everyone. The first album is easily an equal to any other synthpop album of 1980 (except for "Organisation" by OMD which towers over everything), all strange noises, stereo head games and great tunes plus psych guitar too. Then there's a few singles before the second album, totally different line up and as much a 1983 record as "The hurting" by Tears For Fears - who nobody else seems to have mentioned. I'd include "The hurting" in synth pop because it mostly is, and that album's great. But back to DILY - seek out both albums, you won't be disappointed. The first LP was issued on CD in 1990, the second is still unavailable. But by god they need reissuing properly.

Rob M, Thursday, 14 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
The Vels were not a brother/sister combo.

hstencil, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 05:22 (twenty years ago) link

Nobody has mentioned Alphaville! "Forever Young" a top seller ever? Great stuff.

Blancmange hasnt either I think- they are fantastic, especially "Happy Families."

John Foxx "The Garden" is really, really great- better than Metamatic.

Alien Sex Fiend has done a few cool all-synth songs.

Camoflauge has some good stuff. Their best song I've heard, "Love is a shield", was written by Peter Godwin (ex-Metro, the obscure but supposedly amazing german glam era band that wrote Criminal life or whatever covered by Bowie on Let's Dance.) Peter Godwin has an uncommonly seen best-of comp that is really good. Look for it, it is definitely obscure and worth seeking out, since I belive he didn't make any albums, just some 12 inch EP's but it has new songs on it.

Rational Youth hasnt been mentioned. They are highly sought after and pretty obscure. I have their best album waiting at home which I got off ebay but can't get until I'm done travelling in a few months- dammit. Anyway, the band is mainly Tracy Howe, who was a founding member of the most arty-glam-version of Men Without Hats (my favorite stuff of theirs.) They are also incredible. Rythm of Youth, really classic.

Lets see what else I can remember- this is my favorite stuff!


sucka (sucka), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 08:10 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41PVZ2RKFKL._AA240_.jpg

^^ Bought this used yesterday, now hearing it for the first time. It's great.

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Am I the only one here with an appreciation for forgotten synth duo Gee Mr Tracy? I think I have everything they put out - one album and four singles. The single collection LP is the best thing out there. Nothing on cd as far as I know.
Ooh Bob Sh'Bam
Lava Man

everything, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link


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