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― f, Monday, 14 February 2005 05:56 (8 years ago) Permalink
most of their first two records tend towards neu!/la duesseldorf type beats.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 14 February 2005 08:23 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Tito JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 14 February 2005 08:38 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:13 (8 years ago) Permalink
Another Velvets one would be "Foggy Notion".
― haitch (haitch), Monday, 14 February 2005 10:25 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Jonathan Z. (Joanthan Z.), Monday, 14 February 2005 11:06 (8 years ago) Permalink
Lots of Glitter Band/ Gary GlitterLots of StoogesLots of Velvets
Bowie - Red Sails (et al, ad infinitum etc)Iggy - FuntimeCabaret Voltaire - Nag Nag Nag (et al)
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― mzui (mzui), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:12 (8 years ago) Permalink
(my examples do not all bear this out)
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:21 (8 years ago) Permalink
Also several Unrest songs, like the Hyrdofoil/Hydroplane ones.
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― M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:46 (8 years ago) Permalink
-- Alex in Doncaster (alex_fac...) (webmail), February 14th, 2005 2:21 PM. (link)
Like, for instance, "Silver Machine" Hawkwind?
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:45 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 20:32 (8 years ago) Permalink
whitey - two face.
spencer otm about jagz kooner.
― stirmonster, Monday, 14 February 2005 20:49 (8 years ago) Permalink
― don, Monday, 14 February 2005 21:25 (8 years ago) Permalink
4/4 time, basic rock bet, with snare on 2 & 4, HOWEVER, bass drum is playing exactly what the hi-hat does (ie, on each eighth note), except on the beats where the snare hits. It looks like this
1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &h h h h h h h h. . s . . . s .b b . b b b . b
This is the beat of many Neu songs, including "Hallogallo". I think the bass drum playing on all those eigth notes is what separates motorik from a lot of other regular old 4/4 rock beats (fast, driving or otherwise).
― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:46 (8 years ago) Permalink
basically, the b's are supposed to line up w/the h's, and the s's are on 2 and 4. I hate the internet!
― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:47 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (8 years ago) Permalink
Any "motorik top 10" that doesn't include Stereolab is already false motorik to me, TBH
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 08:27 (11 months ago) Permalink
Julian Cope - Necropolis
― gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 08:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
I just never really got Stereolab.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
Did this in '04 in one of the (terrific) Rough Guide to... threads
The Rough Guide to Motorik
1. [10:07] Neu! - Hallogallo (1972)2. [04:37] Velvet Underground - I’m waiting for the man (1967)3. [03:33] The Stooges - Loose (1970)4. [03:36] The Beach Boys - Heroes and Villains (1967)5. [06:30] Kraftwerk - Autobahn (single edit) (1974)6. [02:07] La Düsseldorf - White Overalls (1978)7. [07:07] Harmonia - Monza (1975)8. [03:50] Chrome - Chromosome Damage (1977)9. [03:20] The Normal - Warm Leatherette (1978)10. [07:27] Tall Dwarfs - Neusyland (1994)11. [05:25] The Clean - Point That Thing Somewhere Else (1981)12. [04:45] Talking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless (1980)13. [04:27] Mense Reents - It Didn’t Matter (2003)14. [03:02] Queens of the Stone Age - Go With the Flow (2002)15. [04:16] Zoot Woman - Grey Day (2003)16. [06:23] Tied & Tickled Trio - Motorik (2003)
― willem, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
Needs the Glitter Band/ Gary Glitter
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
... doesn't need Stereolab
Fuckin amazing willem.
― robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 10:46 (11 months ago) Permalink
Omitting Stereolab from a motorik best-of just seems like entry level challops TBH.
But maybe that's the point, trying to construct a playlist w/o the obvious names? But seems like when someone has done that, it ends up with a bunch of lumpen, dude-ish rock which makes me doubt and think "hey maybe I don't really like motorik after all, maybe it was just Stereolab I liked all along."
Which is crazy talk! Because when I listen to Jenny Ondioline and Be Sure To Loop and Opa Loka and even bands like Quickspace or Secret Machines/SVIIB doing a motorik, man, motorik is my favourite thing in the world! It is light and streamlined and joyful and propulsive! The moral of the story is, it's just lumpen dude-ishness I dislike in any genre. (this is not even a gender complaint before people take it as one - I always found Electralane to be lumpen and dude-ish, too which is in itself a minor motorik challop.)
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
W/e obv Stereolab is sorely missed but to look at that playlist and act like all the obv motorik bands were challoply left out is just daft (tho I just realized Boredoms is missing too)
That being said, I love Feather Float and want to listen to it now, bcz I never registered 'Loop' as motorik before, so that's cool...
― robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:21 (11 months ago) Permalink
I do agree that Stereolab deserves a place on any motorik list though
― robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
If you'd made these suggestions a week ago, Cheesecake, they'd have probably got in!
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:50 (11 months ago) Permalink
What about my favourite songs by Can and Yo La Tengo: Halleluhwah and Blue Line Swinger? Not sure if they have the motorik beat but they both have an extremely hypnotic beat for sure.
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:41 (11 months ago) Permalink
I should totally have gone through more YLT.
Halleluwah is great and hypnotic and I love it, but it's a very different ind of thing. it's a groove, a swing, rather than a bio-mechanical thing.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
Anyone mention Quick Canal by Atlas Sound?
Been on holiday for a few week otherwise I'd have suggested a few. One of my favourite sounds.
― AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
Keep 'em coming.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:12 (11 months ago) Permalink
Love this track. I also find it touching that Cox was able to persuade one of his idols (Laetitia Sadier) to sing on it.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
Blue line Swinger is not motorik, at least until like minute 5.
The Fall's 'Before the Moon Falls' is p motorik: would 'Reformation' count too?
― robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
The loud version of Big Day Coming by YLT might qualify, can't think what else off the top of my head.
― gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:29 (11 months ago) Permalink
I think the "motorik beat" is a red herring. A motorik feeling is just as much about what the bass is doing, the actual sound of the drums (dry and tight), limited harmonic movement, and how the guitar, synths, or vocals are floating on top, as it is about the basic drum pattern. You can play that same drum pattern in a way that doesn't sound motorik at all, or you could make a song with a different drum beat that still sounds very motorik.
+1
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
i've always thought about it in terms of dancing and being able to play off of different instruments instead of being dependent on a changing beat or vocal changes for changing movementsnot that it matters, but there you go
― game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:43 (11 months ago) Permalink
Jumpin jack Flash & Street Fighting Man are kind of motorik. I read a Fall review in the Wire that said the Johnny Burnette Trio's version of "Train kept a Rollin" was motorik too, but I couldn't confirm that.
― robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:50 (11 months ago) Permalink
No, that song is locomotorik
― Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
I see that Death in Vegas are already represented but for my money 'Hands Around Your Throat' is more representative of the motorik beat than that track that namechecks Rother.
Also, I think there's a place for Radiohead here; in particular Amnesiac b-side 'Cuttooth'.
― AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:07 (11 months ago) Permalink
A few people have mentioned the Gary Glitter beat, but that's a shuffle. Unless there was an actual motorik Gary Glitter song I don't know about, but I'm assuming people mean the R&Rpt2 beat.
― wk, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:30 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah, too much stomping in that one.
― Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:32 (11 months ago) Permalink
locomotorik
irl lol.
― Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
Yeah that shd be excelisor'd (by someone other than me)
― robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:42 (11 months ago) Permalink
I guess I don't understand people's obsession with this term. It's a nice way to describe a few Krautrock bands and bands who were influenced by them, but I don't see why it has to be applied to any song with a driving beat. And I really don't get the connection to songs that predate krautrock like Heroes and Villains.
― wk, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:43 (11 months ago) Permalink
One of the tracks on Yoko Ono & The Plastic Ono Band has Ringo laying down a pretty motorik groove. I don't have the record to hand. Rhythm section on that album amazing across the board.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:27 (11 months ago) Permalink
The last 45 seconds or so of Turtle Turtle Up by Four Tet.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:46 (10 months ago) Permalink
It's kind of mental, you've got all these jazzy, glitchy drum rolls for about 90 seconds, and then it just falls into motorik loveliness.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:47 (10 months ago) Permalink
Orchestral Manoeuvers in the dark - Electricity
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:37 (10 months ago) Permalink
was listening to B-52's "Aint it a Shame" and that almost makes the cut, surprisingly...
― t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
2. [04:37] Velvet Underground - I’m waiting for the man (1967)
Totally disagree with this one. It doesn't have a backbeat at all, just a steady, even pulse on every beat.
― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:15 (10 months ago) Permalink
Yeah it's not Motorik, but I can see a case for it being proto-Motorik. The insistent evenness I think is the key.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:38 (10 months ago) Permalink
^yeah I agree with this post. "Waiting for the Man" is too much of an important first step, even though it probably predicts "It's a Rainy Day, Sunshine Girl" more than anything Neu! did
― t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:41 (10 months ago) Permalink
contemporary motorik beat: beak, the band of portishead's geoff barrow (btw they have a new album out). somehow i have the impression they bring something new to the table. they are obviously heavily influenced by neu etc, but they have their sound and lots of interesting ideas. the motorik beat is also played by the bass here.
― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:53 (10 months ago) Permalink
― am0n, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:03 (10 months ago) Permalink
Can I nominate this as the post-speeding-down-the-autobahn version of the motorik, very definitely in an unexpected place (the very underrated Francisco's 'Cosmic Beam Experience')?
― Soundslike, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:29 (10 months ago) Permalink
― dsb, Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:45 (10 months ago) Permalink
Beak! Bought >> and it is pretty awesome. It is just krauty grooves for the sake of it, seemingly, but oh wow.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 6 September 2012 16:52 (8 months ago) Permalink
^^ it is awesome
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:22 (8 months ago) Permalink
Kraftwerk, "Ohm Sweet Ohm"
... could this be deliberate on their part?
― Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:58 (5 months ago) Permalink
!
― willem, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:37 (5 months ago) Permalink
Portishead - Chase the Tear
― anonanon, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:10 (5 months ago) Permalink