Toby Keith has been honoured with four prizes at the Academy of Country Music awards. Toby Keith , Classic Or Dud?

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For fuck's sake. My short-lived membership in the Academy has been in vain, obv

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

> ain't nobody in country music ever been "honoured" for anything.

Olivia Newton-John to thread.

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

Toby Keith's record is a piece of shit. And this has nothing to do with politics, all right? I could give a crap less. Not an especially political person, me. It's just that Toby Keith's record, along with most of his stuff, is complete and utter shit. Everything Brooks and Dunn does right, Toby Keith does wrong here. Ironically, "American Soldier" is in fact the best song on the record.

Now, let's see what he's done before this record. "I Wanna Talk About Me" was the worst country novelty record to hit the scene since Billy Ray. "How Do You Like Me Now" was a big hit that I never understood why it was so big. "A Little Less Talk, A Lot More Action," that's probably his best song. As for Courtesy of the Red White and Blue, that's not nearly as much of an asshole song as people suggest.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 27 May 2004 13:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

"I Love This Bar" is a bracing little sip of tragicomic beauty.

Sitting in the parking lot late one night, patiently waiting for sobriety to return, I found this song on the radio, and I laughed until a blazing dove came down from Heaven and did a little tap-dance on my beer-soaked skull.

For that moment, and that moment alone, I dub Toby Keith a classic. I imagine that I would have thought G.W. Bush to be a classic too, if I had met him in his drunken prime. If George & Toby had remained on their barstools, happily oblivious to the world of politics, I'd have a good deal more affection for both of them.

Butter Leather, Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

I Wanna Talk About Me is orrible. and that's worse than horrible.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

We got winners; we got losers;
Chain smokers and boozers.
An' we got yuppies; we got bikers;
An' we got, thirsty hitchhikers.
And the girls next door dress up like movie stars:
Mm, mm, mmm, mmm, mmm, I love this bar.
We got cowboys; we got truckers;
Broken hearted fools and suckers.
An' we got husslers; we got fighters;
Early birds and all nighters.
And the veterans talk about their battle scars:
Mm, mm, mmm, mmm, mmm, I love this bar.

I love this bar,
It's my kind place.
Just walk in through the front door,
Puts a big smile on my face.
It ain't too far; come as you are.
Mm, mm, mmm, mmm, mmm, I love this bar.

I've seen short skirts; we've got high-techs;
Blue collar boys and rednecks.
An' we got lovers; lots of lookers;
I've even seen dancin' girls and hookers.
And we like to drink our beer from a mason jar:
Mm, mm, mmm, mmm, mmm, I love this bar, yes I do!

I like my truck, (I like my truck),
An' I like my girlfriend, (I like my girlfriend),
I like to take her out to dinner;
I like a movie now and then:

But I love this bar,
It's my kind place.
Just toeing around the dance floor,
Puts a big smile on my face.
No cover charge; come as you are.
Mm, mm, mmm, mmm, mmm, I love this bar.
Mm, mm, mmm, mmm, mmm, I just love this ol' bar.


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Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

I like both of his last two records (the only ones I've heard), and I just today saw the video for "Beer for My Horses" while on the dentist's chair, and liked it (Willie as Toby's dad, both cops, kind of like a special country episode of Homicide or something) so I guess I'll say classic. Though I did get a nasty email from one of his co-songwriters for making fun of TK in a review.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

god preserve us ...

robin carmody (robin carmody), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

I like him. Great songwriter, great singer. Three really good albums in a row, and "How Do You Like Me" now was great before that, so maybe his streak is longer than just three really good albums; who knows. And Matt Cibula even claims that Toby came out as a Democrat in TV Guide this week! Anyway, here's my recent two cents in the VV:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0349/eddy.php

By the way, I didn't see much of the country awards last night, but Big & Rich's performance was COMPLETELY. FUCKING. INSANE. Easily the most entertaining live musical performance I've seen on TV in, I dunno, forever. (Since, what, Funky Four Plus One on Saturday Night Live in '81? Public Image Ltd on American Bandstand in '80? Something like that. I dunno, maybe I'm forgetting something. But still...)

chuck, Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

OMMFG I saw the Big & Rich video too and all I could think was "This is Chuck Eddy's FAVORITE BAND AND/OR VIDEO EVER."

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

Frank Kogan's two cents:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0244/kogan.php

Don Allred's two cents:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0222/allred.php

chuck, Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

The more I hear about Big and Rich, the more I'm definitely thinking I must hear this album. I take it they have a website?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, my Big & Rich magnum opus leads the Voice music section next week. (Album of the decade? Only time will tell.)

chuck, Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

I didn't see much of the country awards last night, but Big & Rich's performance was COMPLETELY. FUCKING. INSANE.

Which song did they do? Wonder if this'll be rebroadcast. I fuggin love these guys right now. Though the songs *may* all be about 30-75 seconds too long. But what to cut out???

(xpost)

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

I got that CD about a month ago but it got lost in a cleaning shuffle. (Some folks clean to bring out the stuff they need; I clean to hide it.) Must. Find. ASAP.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)." Heh heh. (The songs are long, yeah, but they're long like 12-inch disco mixes! It's a whole new thang...)

chuck, Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ned, you will fucking DIE. They're the U.S.E. or Junior Senior of country!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

(well, probably not, but I wanted to whet Ned's appetite. and Chuck--you REALLY need to hear the United State of Electronica record.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

The songs are long, yeah, but they're long like 12-inch disco mixes! It's a whole new thang...

SERIOUSLY! I'm especially big on Wild West Show (western epic as breakup metaphor, the plaintive "Hey Ya."s, the imagery, is that Zamfir I hear blowin?, the list goes on), Drinkin' 'bout You...shit. The whole thing. Can't wait for the article, Chuck.

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

...and those "Hey ya" are hardly a booty (or bullride) call. It's great use of trope.

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Good god he was such a dork back in the day:

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

< giggles >

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

the wierdest thing about the Big and Rich thing last nite, was whoever the girl singer that performed before then (didn't see her just caught her right as she got done)....suddenely raised her hands in a jesus pose and exclaimed "LADIES AND GENTLEMEN....COUNTRY MUSIC.....WITHOUT PREJUDICE!!!!" (George Michael reference?? you never know??) and then fell into the crowd like one of those trust building excerises and they caught her and then Big and Rich came out and the one dude was wearing a weird top hat....

I were very confused.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

I will now be hearing all Dan's posts in the voice of Cowboy Troy (?)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

Wait, was the girl singer Grethen Wilson (who now has the second most popular album in the United States, half written by half of Big & Rich)? Did she do "Redneck Woman"?? Must've been. Damn, I missed her..

chuck, Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Somebody started a Big & Rich thread, by the way:

Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

chuck, Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

"I Love This Bar" is
a big metaphor: the bar
is country music

as no other bar
would contain the many kinds
of types of people

but the radio
is the great big leveler,
there's no cover charge

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

i dont think that toby keith is that interesting, for having such a long career he is better at riding the zeitgeist, and this is from someone who adores redneck jingoism in his country (ie The Fighting Side of Me or the ouervere of Charlie Daniels.)

The Chicks did well last year, didnt expect them to do well this year.

anthony, Friday, 28 May 2004 05:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Matos was right about Big & Rich, I have to say.

Anyway, I'm all about Toby's red, white and blue ear monitor here. (Shot was from a show in Afghanistan last week.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

Ryan Adams - Toby Keith rant.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/12l582

MRZBW, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Toby Keith is a gigantic cock.

HI DERE, Monday, 21 May 2007 18:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

ah, a man with good music and shit politics vs. a man with idk maybe good politics who used to do good music but now is shit.

toby's a much better comedian so he wins.

JoshLove, Monday, 21 May 2007 20:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

"Ain't No Right Way" is one of the better political songs of the last decade -- so damn pained!

Should I get Big Dog Daddy next?

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 August 2011 13:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

man I heard "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue" on the radio today & got seriously pumped up---totally effective & fabulous song, despite my ambiguities with the ideal it propounds. They played "Made In America" about an hour later & here I am driving in the heartland in an army town, with soldiers having been sitting in the front of my classroom today as it is each term here, and Keith's got me again; he's very good at what he does!

Euler, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

"Red Solo Cup" has quietly become the sort of inescapable perennial heard at barbeques.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:23 (11 months ago) Permalink

it was released barely 6 months ago, it's just entering its first barbecue season!

shipl.de.al (some dude), Friday, 8 June 2012 01:52 (11 months ago) Permalink

Who are you even kidding?

how's life, Friday, 8 June 2012 22:53 (11 months ago) Permalink

it's an even more try-hard i got friends in low places and not as good

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 22:56 (11 months ago) Permalink

but it's still ok

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 22:56 (11 months ago) Permalink

Went to a party last weekend and the bar stools had red solo cups painted on them, along with lyrics from the refrain.

how's life, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:23 (11 months ago) Permalink

Heard it three times this weekend in three different places.

"I Love This Bar" >>> "Get Drunk and Be Somebody" >>>>>> "Red Solo Cup"

but who am I kdding

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:26 (11 months ago) Permalink

I've never actually heard "Red Solo Cup," but I mentioned it the other day and was mildly surprised that people knew what I was talking about. (The only contemporary country fan I know IRL is my mom.)

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:08 (11 months ago) Permalink


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