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yeah.

they supported the Go! Team on their recent jaunt around the country, and made me smile and laff a lot when i caught their show in bristol.

very twee and innocent sounding power pop anthems with girl power infused lyrics ..

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I *like* The Pipettes, but they need some serious production behind them to beef them up a bit to make me love them. They have one song 'ABC' which, given production ala Rubicon by Alan Braxe and Fred Falke would be incredible. As it stands, the twee-ness of the production really grates on me.

Good fun live though.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 08:09 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Apparently they've just signed to Memphis Industries. Hope it's for good this time.

daavid (daavid), Monday, 27 June 2005 06:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry to vent my bile here, but...

I'm sorry, I just don't get it.

It's a genre that I adore, a band I should love, but I've seen them a couple of times and they just leave me cold.

It just seems so very... studied. I don't know. It's a genre that should be about FUN!!! and sugar and humor and girly spontenaity. But there's just something so... not right about them. Perhaps it's my own prejudices at seeing a bunch of girls doing dance moves in front a bunch of male backing musicians rather than "doing it for themselves". But the overall impression is somehow the fun, the giggles, the girliness - what makes me LOVE this kind of music - has been sucked out of it, and it's just this limp ironic joke by a bunch of people who are doing it cause they think it's "cool" rather than through any genuine kind of love of the music.

Anyway... sorry. I wanted so badly to like them.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 07:04 (eighteen years ago) link

oh well.

i love the new single! transgressive records rule.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 27 June 2005 07:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm very VERY fond of them.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 27 June 2005 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread needs a pic.
http://www.underexposed.org.uk/pipettes/pipettesbh2.jpg

daavid (daavid), Monday, 27 June 2005 07:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd rather see the Schla La Las any day of the week. A FAR superior interpretation of the genre in every way possible.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe, but The Pipettes are better looking. But I've yet to listen to both of them.

daavid (daavid), Monday, 27 June 2005 08:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I've just suddenly remembered why I don't read/post to ILM any more.

Never mind, forget I even said anything. I give up.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 08:08 (eighteen years ago) link

because we don't agree with you?

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 27 June 2005 08:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Because they're being judged on their looks and not their music i presume

mms (mms), Monday, 27 June 2005 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link

oh

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 27 June 2005 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Bingo.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 08:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I am dead keen innit. Who'd have thought that hand claps would suit In The Bleak Midwinter so well?

j0e (j0e), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Like Kate, I'm not so keen on the male backing band thing. Plus, if I want to see danccing girls in 60's outfits I'd go and see dance troop The Actionettes, who are much more fun.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Indeed!

And, well, Miss AMP to thread for a much more insightful, incisive and more FUN deconstruction of said Pipettes...

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:47 (eighteen years ago) link

(This is going to turn into girl-band turf war if we're not careful...)

Anna (Anna), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link

It won't be a turf war, because I don't even consider them to be even vaguely the same genre of music.

(Oh wait, see the above thread, it doesn't actually matter what the music sounds like, it will all be judged based on looks alone, sigh.)

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, because one post out of seventeen is the entire thread.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 27 June 2005 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link

my vote is for the long blondes.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

ooh i've been keen to hear them

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Haven't seen them yet, what are they like?

(Is that the difference, that I'm basing my impressions on live performances rather than recorded output?)

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link

They're pretty good The Long Blondes, I've only heard a couple of tracks though.

Anna (Anna), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:14 (eighteen years ago) link

the show i saw was frankly not that great, but i really like the recorded stuff i've heard. girl group/spector-ish sass with some art rock thrown in, very shambolic and not at all cutesy.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link

>>Because they're being judged on their looks and not their music i presume

Why shouldn't they be? Looks & image are clearly important to the band, and their onstage persona (and some of the songs too) gives me the impression that they know they're attractive & are taking advantage of the situation.

Even so, I love 'em. The two 45s are both fantastic, & live they're so much fun. Looking forward to hearing The Long Blondes sometime too.

harvey.w (harvey.w), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Why shouldn't they be? Looks & image are clearly important to the band, and their onstage persona (and some of the songs too) gives me the impression that they know they're attractive & are taking advantage of the situation.

Because the same considerations don't even get a look-in when males are discussing male bands.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link

The Pipettes are great fun. And I don't think having a boy backing band makes them any less "credible". It's a nice touch to get the boys to wear home knitted tank tops with their initials on em. And if we're talking about looks, well the boys are pretty cute too.
I interviewed the band and it was the girls who did all the talking - the boys just went off to the kitchen for a smoke. They're really smart and articulate people and are having lots of fun with the girl group genre and aesthetic. Although one of the boys formed the band, the girls have a lot of input. But would it matter if they didn't? It's pop music after all...

Stew (stew s), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link

It's weird, it seems almost like The Pipettes are a "girl group for boys" rather than a "girl group by, for and of girls".

I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, but whatever it is that I love about girlgroup music - the fun, the fizz, the joy - it's lacking from them.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

(And I mean "girl group" as a genre - music descended from/inspired by Shangri-Las, Ronettes, etc - rather than as groups comprised of girls.)

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 27 June 2005 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link

wouldn't it be terrible if someone posted extensively about the appearances of musicians like Carl Barat or Pete Doherty or J Spaceman or Bobby Gillespie or...

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link

the girls have just signed to memphis industries.

lets see if all this build up pays off once we actually get to hear some records ..

mark e (mark e), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i've heard two!

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 27 June 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I actually had no idea what they looked like until someone posted that picture, if that helps any. I just like their songwriting.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 27 June 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Because they're being judged on their looks and not their music i presume.

Oh wait, see the above thread, it doesn't actually matter what the music sounds like, it will all be judged based on looks alone, sigh.

Oh, come on I wasn't being entirely serious, I never implied that looks are all that mattered. Although I think in THIS PARTICULAR CASE looks are somewhat important. You've admitted, MISinformation that "the fun, the giggles, the girliness" is part of what you love about this music. What's wrong with adding "looks" to the mix. Plus I have to say I wasn't just refering physical beauty. In fact, its the outfits and the attitude what I like the most.

daavid (daavid), Monday, 27 June 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Saw them when I was in London in May. Their show was a lot of fun and made me smile a lot. I kept thinking they'd be good touring partners for Saturday Looks Good To Me.

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 27 June 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm almost tired of them already and i have only heard a few snippets of their music. didn't they replace one of the girls already?

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 27 June 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, they replaced Julia (the one on the left). Can't remember the name of the new girl.

daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I've listened to the samples on their website, and I like them. But then I like tweepop in general.

daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 01:37 (eighteen years ago) link

the new one is gwenno, she's welsh, there is an interview with them on soundsxp.com

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

just heard Hue play new Brakes single (album?) which has the Pipettes singing backing on the Mary Chain's 'Sometimes Always'. which shows good taste in cover versions anyway. (is about 1:45 into tuesday's show if anyone's interested).

> Because the same considerations don't even get a look-in when males are discussing male bands.

i think they do, it's just that Ian McCulloch, say, or Jim Reid, or Kurt* or whoever are 'Cool' rather than 'Attractive'.

*Ralske obviously 8)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
i'm listening to the new single right now(you can find it on fluxblog) and it's soooo good. i dont think there's any band today that makes me genuinly HAPPY the way the pipettes do. i know this is so stupid to say but if there is any band i cant understand people disliking it would be this one.

they played in london tonight and of course i didnt find out until it was too late. gah.

does anyone when the album is supposed to come out?

Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link

"in the spring" apparently

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

their forum seems to favour it being titled "pipettes sounds"

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I caught the show last night - it was the first time I had seen them and I thought they were great - they obviously are having a lot of fun doing what they are doing! I think they are doing a session on BB6 music today.

If you wanna talk about eye candy though, you should have seen the first openers, the Gypsy Queens (?) who were doing a sort of spoof Girls Aloud / Sugababes style thing. Maybe they were deadly serious? All I know is that the men in the crowd were really gawking at the undulating bodies of these scantily clad ladies.

Anyway, back to the Pipettes... If they are so popular, and their latest single is in the top 50 singles this week, how can they still have copies of their 2nd 7" (ltd to 1000 copies) still available for £3 at their shows? Is everybody just downloading them?

marianna (mariannapm), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link

the transgressive 7"? i'd take a guess that it's not as limited as it claims.

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

anyone who wants to download some songs:

go to yahoo and sign in with the name the_pipettes and password abc123

Lovelace (Lovelace), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Glad you enjoyed the show Marianna. The record they were selling at the show is actually the *third* singe, a US-only single on Total Gaylord (oh yes).
As I'm sure you're aware, you probably only need to sell 1000 records to get a 49 midweek.

harvey.w (harvey.w), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, sorry, I meant the 3rd single, but I think they are hand numbered and say out of 1000 on them as well.

marianna (mariannapm), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

As I'm sure you're aware, you probably only need to sell 1000 records to get a 49 midweek.

St. Etienne to thread!

Also, "Dirty Mind" is very awesome.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

lol remember "the pipettes"?

eyes without afaik (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 April 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Perhaps I was thinking of the "Stop the Music" single, but I vaguely remember they put out another song on their myspace with the lineup in-between the album group and the current one. Either way, I wasn't really enthused. I'll keep an ear out for this.

Nhex, Monday, 26 April 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link

lol remember "the pipettes"?

pretty sure this thread indicates some people do, yes.

longer lasting, thicker electrons (sic), Monday, 26 April 2010 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

still waiting for rose's solo album, but 'find me out' is really great.

kshighway61 revisited (electricsound), Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

My brother started this thread

The world's leaders on pills (admrl), Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

they never did end up putting out anything on 5:15

kshighway61 revisited (electricsound), Thursday, 12 August 2010 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

new album is kinda awful and yet i'm enjoying it quite a lot

not as good as rose's solo lp

midiverb II program 49 (electricsound), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Gwenno's album is fantastic. I think it's been re-released already, but I'm not sure. It's out on Heavenly--was out on Peski, a Welsh label, originally. You must check it out. I am not a Pipettes fan, but I think it's one of the best albums I've heard in ages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CldPv3-VHmM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oleVny7jz7Q

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/prod/Gwenno-YDyddOlafBonusDiscEdition-HeavenlyRecordings-104291.html

Out on the 24th. It's getting all kind of great reviews now that it's being re-released. Get on it.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link

ya I cosign
this is wonderful

nxd, Thursday, 23 July 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

yeah this album is really good

j. winters (josh), Thursday, 23 July 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

How was that last Pipettes album she did with her sister? There's got to be something good about it.

http://thequietus.com/articles/18396-tongue-of-the-dragon-a-look-at-welsh-language-outsider-pop

Aug Stone talks to Gwenno & Dr. Sarah Hill, and Rhys Mwyn, to give an introduction to some Cymric musical pioneers

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 July 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Ooh, Y Dydd Olaf is wonderful, though I'm not sure if people after this kind of Broadcast/Bachelorette-esque vibe would click on a Pipettes thread ... fits in nicely with this year's Susanne Sundfør album, in a way. Has anyone encountered the novel it's based upon?

etc, Saturday, 25 July 2015 04:37 (eight years ago) link

yeah i almost feel like it deserves its own thread, because i have zero interest in the pipettes but this gwenno record is wonderful.

rushomancy, Saturday, 25 July 2015 11:25 (eight years ago) link

I agree.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 25 July 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link

Picked this up today, it's great.

I really liked the first Pipettes album but never took to the second one.

michaellambert, Saturday, 25 July 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

Those tracks up there didn't enthuse me, but I guess I'm always hoping for a return to their first album sound.

Nhex, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

The Gwenno record is on my to-do list but just checking y'all have heard Rosay's solo album from 2010 yeah?

carly bae jepsen (monotony), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Without Why is a great record. Keep hoping that she'll bring out a follow up.

I wasn't really into the Gwenno album the first time I played it but I find myself going back to it a lot. The production is just gorgeous.

As for The Pipettes, I still love that debut. The second album was a massive disappointment, especially after Stop The Music was such a brilliant lead single.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link

Rosa's album is very good, yes, though I was a little taken aback that it came out that long ago!

May give the second Pipettes another go.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

Poor Riot Becki.

:wq (Leee), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Well this Gwenno album is a lot better than I could have ever expected. Most of it sounds like the midpoint between Broadcast's "Tears In The Typing Pool" and Saint Etienne's "Avenue" with a Krautrock influence.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 18 October 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Just listened to that Gwenno record for the first time. Nice. I like that description

curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 January 2016 00:47 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

I don't know how I'm just discovering Gwenno solo. I think I dismissed the first youtube above on first listen and stop paying attention... but man, she's got a handful of excellent songs!

Interesting to see how both Rose and Gwenno have independently released material that is very obviously Broadcast-influenced, yet nothing the Pipettes ever did sounded even remotely like Broadcast.

daavid, Thursday, 12 January 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

Rose's new album is available now! It's delightful

monotony, Thursday, 12 January 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, Rose's new album is fantastic. Without Why was crazy underrated. This one might be even better.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 12 January 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

I too have been impressed with 'Stellular'!

michaellambert, Thursday, 12 January 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

Rose's album is amazing

this is also nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBuvVCHC9w

piscesx, Thursday, 18 May 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link

Cool, that's the best song on the album.

I read something recently where she said Broadcast are her favourite band. That makes a lot of sense going on her solo work.

kitchen person, Thursday, 18 May 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rCeygWexyA

New Gwenno on Friday.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:01 (six years ago) link

Looking forward to this. The single is gorgeous.

kitchen person, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:03 (six years ago) link

I've got the album. It's good; a fair bit slower than her first. I can't hear much of a difference between sung Cornish and Welsh, to be honest with you. Sensing a nice grower.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

yeah we just heard a song off this and it's sounding very promising

imago, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:45 (six years ago) link

Man, Gwenno's Le Kov is great. I'm not sure I like it as much as the last one, but it's growing on me the more I return to it!

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 12 March 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Rose's third solo album came out on Friday. That's three great albums in a row. Shame she doesn't get the attention she deserves.

kitchen person, Sunday, 7 April 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link

i liked "stellular" a lot, i'll have to check this new one

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Sunday, 7 April 2019 19:57 (five years ago) link

It's a bit more mellow and stripped back that Stellular but equally as gorgeous.

kitchen person, Sunday, 7 April 2019 20:36 (five years ago) link

Solo Rose is more Broadcasty, right?

I've been starving them, teasing them, singing off Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 06:25 (five years ago) link

Last album was brilliant yeah; fantastic production too.

piscesx, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 14:43 (five years ago) link

Solo Rose is more Broadcasty, right?

― I've been starving them, teasing them, singing off Leee (Leee)

The first two albums were quite Broadcasty yeah. She's named them as her favourite band before.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link

haha my housemate's in a band with riotbecki. see thru hands. manchester based.

meaulnes, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:45 (five years ago) link

I feel like somehow it would make perfect sense to reform the Pipettes in some capacity given how Gwenno and Rose have each made excellent records on their own that sound surprisingly similar considering how different they are sound from the original Pipettes material.

I most admit though that I find Rose's records a bit anachronistic. Like the would sound great in the turn it the century, not so much now.

daavid, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 03:20 (five years ago) link

*turn OF the century

daavid, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 03:21 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

Combining modular synth, saxophone, and a medieval lute, Graham Coxon and Rose Elinor Dougall create an album of pastoral disquiet and itchy post-punk edge.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-waeve-the-waeve/

Indexed, Monday, 6 February 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

This album is very good. Bit Talk Talk-y at times, kind of a languid Soul feel to others.

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:27 (ten months ago) link


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