OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

Perhaps Frasier reruns are popular in England right now? Similar things have happened.

Frasier is probably the most popular TV show on weird Twitter

spongebob

Seinfeld is back! Ads for Seinfeld on Hulu with Seinfeld fans make me hate that show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1frO8JjX3do

reading or thinking or god forbid watching seinfeld makes me hate that show

a little tangential- as terrible as that la weekly piece was, i'm heartened by the response. it's helped me to realize why i find the christine chubbuck fetishists so disturbing. it's not because she died on tv. we've seen lots of people die on tv since then. it's because after she died the wapo published that sally quinn piece that jizzed on her corpse. that's where today's chubbuck-fetishist underground really comes from.

i had to google who that was. never heard of her! there was an LA Weekly story about her?

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/jul/10/robert-lang-photography-camden-town-london

i had to google who that was. never heard of her! there was an LA Weekly story about her?

― scott seward

nah, la weekly wasn't even founded until 1978. it's just that some of the backlash against art tavana's piece has focused on contextualizing his the piece in the larger history of journalism, and quinn's 1974 story on chubbuck's suicide is the most horrifying example of that style of writing i've read.

i just read the Quinn thing. never heard of any of it.

they're actually making i think two films about her. or a film and a play. not too sure. people magazine ran a story about her this february! back when i was young the only people who knew about chubbuck were people who read about her in "answer me!", you know, the standard "faces of death" enthusiasts, but the cult following keeps chugging along.

see now i used to read answer me cover to cover and i don't remember the story. sadly, i'm guessing she's not more famous because there is no video.

and yeah two movies. that definitely ups the ante. the Quinn thing is definitely weirdly dated. mentioning that she was a virgin ten times for instance.

so weird that there is a total of like two pictures of her on the internet and they are both stills from an interview she gave on t.v.

(they got a much softer-looking person to play her in the movie, of course.)

i would argue that a lot of the reason she's famous is _because_ there's no video. i apologize here because this is getting super massively off thread topic, but when i was a kid people used to wax rhapsodic about this lost doctor who episode called "tomb of the cybermen", which was supposedly the greatest thing ever. and then they found a copy in hong kong, and it was badly made, racist crap.

if the actual video existed (which it assuredly does not), i don't think people would be as fascinated with her as they are, because no videotape could possibly match the rhapsodically pornographic prose quinn uses to describe chubbuck.

as for the lack of documentation of her life, it's less surprising than people think it is. people hear "news anchor" and they envision, like, katie couric blowing her head off on the nightly news. but she was nowhere near that important. the world's collective memory of her is based on mythology, a mythology created in a washington post article which needs to be understood as grossly inappropriate and offensive.

I first found out about chubbock when I was browsing wikipedia and noticed a potentially interesting avenue among several

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32863603/15236_10152626849962290_3524264623697388226_n.jpg

i don't find the sally quinn article "grossly inappropriate and offensive"

From five years ago: Man gets furious at Foster The People because he didn't listen to lyrics before playing song to his wife

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-03/entertainment/ct-ent-1004-foster-lyrics-20111004_1_school-shooting-pop-music-song

Making your venue inclusive now includes letting people in for free, apparently.

that was your takeaway from that article

kudos

especially since it doesn't actually say that

I wonder if Noisey's multi-billion dollar parent company followed a PWYC policy when they bought up the space that was functioning DIY venue Death by Audio

Also interesting how the idea of paying venue staff union wages never comes up.

this isn't actually any worse than usual, but man, the adjective abuse in this one.

http://www.avclub.com/review/new-lineup-cleans-heliotropes-act-forgettable-resu-239276

Waow, for a short review, it really gives the reader a lot of opportunities to nod off/check out.

i kind of want to give it some slack because obviously nobody involved cared at all. mostly i'm just amazed that there's still space in music reviewing for such obviously dgaf writing.

um there are new examples posted in this thread like every day

idk i think most of the stuff in this thread is bad precisely because the people writing it _care deeply_ about the nauseating bullshit they're inflicting on the world. there's a place for that kind of writing, and it's crossover fanfiction.

In response to an article about Speedy Ortiz's Forecastle performance: "please, writers & editors, can we do better out of the gate when we write about humans?"
https://www.facebook.com/speedyortiz/posts/1225565654123066

Just read that linked to from elsewhere - I'm assuming that you're saying "girls can rock too" articles are the worst journalism, rather than Sadie's piece? Because I think it's spot on.

i assume the shot is at the dopey cos piece, sadie otm

> Just read that linked to from elsewhere - I'm assuming that you're saying "girls can rock too" articles are the worst journalism, rather than Sadie's piece? Because I think it's spot on.

Yes -- the "girls can rock too" piece was edited so wanted to point to the original version Sadie screengrabbed.

Pitchfork's obit for producer Sandy Pearlman belongs here.

Heard a radio bit this morning about the band the Struts, and here's sort of the online version: http://www.npr.org/2016/07/27/487480437/dressed-to-dazzle-the-struts-want-to-make-rock-fun-again

I thought it was terrible, partly for lines like "The Struts have become a staple on rock radio, and they're selling out concerts," but mostly for constantly invoking Queen and then describing a band that I imagined was not unlike the Darkness and then constantly following up by playing clips of the group's music, which was unlistenable shit that sounded nothing like Bowie and Queen, let alone the Darkness

Here's essentially a similar variation on the same piece: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/the-struts-meet-englands-newest-glam-rock-heroes-20160311

Whatever hack is handling these losers deserves a raise.

yeah that band is fucking garbage yuck

You know they're glam 'cause their single has handclaps on it.

fwiw I am British and have never heard of this band

this line from the NPR piece jumped out as being especially clumsy

While American hip-hop swept England in the 1990s, Spiller, the son of a gospel musician, was getting hooked on glamorous '70s rock.

if this dude is 27 then depending on what year of the 1990s (any of which a case could be made for "American hip-hop sweeping England") they're referring to he was aged somewhere between one and 11

538 has really created this terrible brand of feature where a writer presents a ton of shallow "data points" in an overlong story about an incredibly banal topic...like basically dressing up some point that could be covered in 2 paragraphs with infographics etc

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1228-a-brief-history-of-famously-unstreamable-albums-that-ended-up-streaming-anyway/

Boy that URL just screams not to be clicked

but what if there's a kidney stone joke somewhere in there

fwiw I am British and have never heard of this band

Hammer and Kerrang! both hot for the struts' chilli, tbf

"As I sit at the counter waiting for her, downing refills of water and skimming a menu full of items that in no way can I afford, I consider how surreal it is that Shirley Manson, who is scheduled to make a national television appearance on Jimmy Kimmel later this evening, would take the time to voluntarily meet with some dumb writer. Music journalism is not a particularly glamorous field. In fact, for the last several years, I’ve had my parents under the impression that their only son is a middle manager at RadioShack. Not that that’s any better or worse of a career choice, but at least they understand what the gig entails. So for the life of me I couldn’t understand why she would want to waste a perfectly good evening hanging out with some word jockey."

here we go again

http://m.noisey.vice.com/blog/a-first-date-with-shirley-manson

hah, they look like a modern kerrang band, stevie. Not a good thing either :)

She instantly feels like someone I’ve known for years and accomplishes the impossible in getting me to drop my Ironic Guy facade for long enough to have a meaningful conversation. We crack into the subject of past relationships and dish about exes. I confess my “feelings” to her about breakups I've been through and she tells me I’m afraid of setting myself up to get hurt, which I realize is fully accurate. Suddenly I find myself telling her things that I’ve never admitted to anyone before, or maybe even admitted to myself. It was like she had been playing her own game of 21 Questions about me this whole time and had deduced enough information to solve the puzzle. I feel myself looking into unexplored corners of my dumb heart. Shirley Manson wields that power—to make a person to feel so comfortable, yet so vulnerable. If she likes them, that is.

Boy that URL just screams not to be clicked

― Have you hugged your timeghoul today? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

spoiler alert: there are some albums that weren't available on streaming services when they first came out but THEN.........they became available on streaming service...

the twist is, stay with me here, is that each of these albums was unavailable on streaming for a certain period of time and you can see infographics that compare how long that period was

also, the article points out that Radiohead's In Rainbow's did NOT come out on streaming services when it was first released....because streaming services did not exist at that time

Dan Ozzi is a completely pedestrian writer with an entirely disagreeable way of putting his personality in his articles. it baffles me that he is getting a co-writing credit for the Laura Jane Grace autobiog as I see no reason why she couldn't do a better job on her own, or at least with a nameless editor

http://www.wmagazine.com/story/how-rihanna-became-pop-s-many-faced-goddess

On her single “Work,” Rihanna sounds like Charlie Brown’s teacher or a duck trapped in your neighbor’s apartment. She doesn’t make sense as much as she makes noise, commuting a story not through words, but phonetic shapings that sound something like words left out in the rain, their definition bleeding out into each other until there is nothing but a string of guttural utterances set to a pulsating beat. It’s even more pronounced on other tracks on her album “Anti,” like “Desperado” and “Woo,” where one sound elides into the next and the listener has no idea what Rihanna is talking about. Is she too lazy to enunciate? Too emotionally bereft to elucidate? Or too far out that she’s speaking some sort of alien tongue that she’s making up as she goes along, like Björk or Khaleesi?

Dan Ozzi is a completely pedestrian writer with an entirely disagreeable way of putting his personality in his articles.

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guttural utterances

Great name for a punk band.