what are barack obama's flaws?

oops, i had meant to share that with this article/link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/03/us/politics/obama-after-dark-the-precious-hours-alone.html

yeah i liked that article a lot

oddly related to this line about the night: "it's smaller. it lets you think."

can you imagine 7 years with a maximum 5 hours of sleep a night? jesus.

is he the first president in decades who cares so much about the prose of speeches and actually writes many of those speeches himself?

probably -- i don't know much about carter, but i can't imagine him being quite so detail oriented.

obama's obviously brilliant, and a better writer than i am obviously, but he's not a great speechwriter IMO. when giving proper speeches, he seldom has the quality of pith, and i can't think of many phrases in his speeches that are particularly memorable. the phrase "the soft bigotry of low expectations" that some hack put in GWB's mouth is more memorable than anything BHO has said... it's got assonance, a nice rhythm, parallelism....

I forgot that in the first few years Reagan wrote many of the big speeches.

The clarity of the Jeremiah Wright kiss-off was a tonic.

horrifying revive

'decent' my ass

Morbius who are your top ten presidents

Dylan
Dylan
Dylan...

I want to be open to the idea that the approach taken with Al Qaeda and ISIS has been a calculation relative to the amount of death of suffering that's been possible. Maybe I should be, but I'm still not entirely convinced that the offensive approach taken ultimately results in more death and suffering than what is possible if they are left alone.

I guess that's true of the initial impulse to defend that city in Libya than initially got us into that conflict, regardless of what ended up happening.

I guess that's *also* true, I meant to say

horrifying revive

'decent' my ass

― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Sunday, July 3, 2016 10:36 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jeez, what took you so long?

Insight like that doesn't shoot from the hip.

i know a fucking pigshit moron who needs to die

Thats a terrible way to talk about steven spielberg

morbs transitioned from lovable crank to homicidal demagogue so gradually i barely noticed.

i lost a lot of respect for president obama when i found out how he stopped returning morbs's calls.

http://i.imgur.com/OZU6tpI.jpg?1

"What the... It's 3 am. This better be important."

http://i.imgur.com/ynOmM4h.jpg?1

"i know a fucking pigshit moron who needs to die."

http://i.imgur.com/NCBxxCS.jpg

"Aw, Morbs. Didn't know it was you!"

tbqh, morbs, you would be a lot more flawed as president than barry's been

he would dissolve the executive branch and we would live in an autarkist paradise forever

sorry to post-police but morbs "horrifying revive" would have been a totally hilarious standalone post and would have actually focused yr message but instead you went personal-attack. I am available to edit ppl's posts and my rates are reasonable

it wasn't much of an "attack"-- it was just an acknowledgment that i had indeed expected a morbs response, and that he did not disappoint. the response to that seemed like a significant escalation to me, but others may disagree.

i guess if this were a school playground--and i'm not sure it differs much from one sometimes--i would be told to simply "ignore" him. and that would be good advice! a bit harder to take after repeated "you need to die" posts though.

whatever. sorry to take up eyeball real-estate with this, people. move on.

Listening to Obama speak the other night made me feel proud to be an American. He always strikes me as a very moral and wise person, able to see how individual policies relate to a larger vision/pattern. His endorsement of Hillary made me like her more.

That said wtf is going on with these deportations? http://fusion.net/story/252637/obama-has-deported-more-immigrants-than-any-other-president-now-hes-running-up-the-score/ I think I have reconciled myself to the drones, which used to sicken me, as it's not clear to me what a "good" middle east policy would look like. But he is basically refusing refugees here -- these people are coming from nations torn apart by violence

Im not sure Ive even seen him address this policy

I do wonder if Clinton is intending to counter that policy but doesn't want to position herself against Obama at this point in time. She seemed to hammer home her intention to curb mass deportations in her speech last night. But, yes, it's fucked up (particularly since there are reported instances of deportees being murdered upon returning to their home countries) and I hope that she sees that.

i hope she stops it but why hasnt obama? Does he really just not care about these people?

1. explain that laws are dumb and should be changed
2. get shouted down
3. make executive decision to not enforce all parts of dumb laws
4. get shouted down more
5. enforce dumb laws to the very letter
6. reform vote now louder than ever

^^^

an act of political genius!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-wont-revive-obama-plan-to-shield-illegal-immigrants-from-deportation/2016/06/23/6cea5f1e-3950-11e6-9ccd-d6005beac8b3_story.html

for your consideration

https://theringer.com/president-obama-summer-playlist-spotify-8fd9c5696aaa#.eqlwfmkmi

i support malia obama smoking weed at coachella

XP thx 4 new dn

We're watching http://www.bet.com/shows/bet-presents-love-happiness-an-obama-celebration.html and why is Bradley Cooper at this thing?

ha this is that thing that Chappelle was talking about at the end of his SNL monologue right

Yeah. It's nice to go in a time machine back to October.

His incredible, unshakeable faith in the meritocracy.

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2017/01/obamas-climate-legacy

Given the constraints of an extremist opposition, there’s probably not much more Obama could have done on climate change. He sums up his achievements and the need to move forward in an article in Science, written by him, although almost certainly not actually written by him. This is the first time a sitting president has ever published in the prestigious journal.

Of course one can argue that Obama’s biggest weakness is thinking that anyone cares what is published in a journal like Science instead of playing the dirty politics that actually leads to power in this country. It would be nice if this country could have nice things, but what a pipe dream.

In that case, all this 'bipartisanship' talk makes me worry he'll let the plutocrats walk all over him in the name of unity. It's too early to tell, of course. The problem is, I'm guilty of being a little star struck by the dude and his speeches and advisors and stuff, so I'm probably missing important defects. So maybe that's a flaw, too.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:37 PM (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nice job screwing over the Cubans, buttface lame duck.

I don't have a problem with it tbh

I'm sorry for the emigres who didn't get the news

Of course one can argue that Obama’s biggest weakness is thinking that anyone cares what is published in a journal like Science instead of playing the dirty politics that actually leads to power in this country. It would be nice if this country could have nice things, but what a pipe dream.

qft

tell it to the Salvadorans, Hondurans, Guatemalans, Mexicans, Haitians, etc and see how many tears they shed for the poor Cubans.

i've managed to avoid most inauguration coverage today. if you'd like something else, this group of people assessing the end of obama is p interesting

http://radioopensource.org/looking-back-obama/#

marilynne robinson is worshipful, david bromwich is of course v critical

CL: You caught my attention in the London Review of Books many months ago just with the observation that he can sound like the president of the Ford Foundation, or something. It’s the sound of a vaguely anonymous board room voice, an intelligent mind among a lot of intelligent minds, representing some kind of anonymous consensus of the good people.

DB: Yeah. That’s sort of the good and competent elite who are meant to run things. I call him a Fabian non-socialist for that reason. The Fabians – H. G. Wells and George Bernard Shaw among them – believed in the reform of society by a group of technocrats, from above, in the direction of equality, but not with much consultation of the populace. And there’s nothing at all low about Obama, nothing the least bit vulgar or ill-bred. In fact, if he had just a dash of vulgarity it might increase the democratic quality of his charm.

deporting 3m ppl, assassinating citizens = lil bit vulgar

how many would you have deported morbs

twelve