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The Eldrazi reveal caught me by surprise but only because I only know about the story vaguely. felt like I was the only one on my FB feed surprised. if it was just Emrakul that'd be one thing, but based on Meld and Emerge, it seems there's gonna be a sizeable amount of Eldrazi here. if Thought-Knot Seer, Reality Smasher, and Displacer hadn't invaded every freaking format in the game in the last year, I would be more excited. SOI is also my favorite draft format probably since original Innistrad so I hope that Eldrazi don't ruin the good INN vibes

Vinnie, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

yeah that's a cool card Cider xp

Vinnie, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

i do like that there are only 3 meld cards, that's a level of restraint we don't always see from them with wacky new things

ciderpress, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link

oh i also like the curious homunculus, that's a card that seems like it should be good enough for standard with an outside shot at bigger formats

ciderpress, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

did they change the Legendary rule for Ulrich? or can you have one side flipped and one unflipped?

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/docentofperfection.html

I love that Delver has become a whole storyline. This is a part of MTG design that I absolutely love.

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

yes you can have one of each side in play, this is already happening in standard with Avacyn

ciderpress, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah forgot that one was legendary. that's kinda dumb. there should just be a rule that says "both sides of a legendary card can't be in play at the same time".

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

the overall cost on this card is too conservative for it to actually be good but it is definitely sweet

http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/soulseparator.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

man I really liked that card until I saw that you had to sac it

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

wait on second thought that would be totally broken as a repeatable effect

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

clearly, this is going to be the best card in the set:

http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/harmlessoffering.html

frogbs, Thursday, 30 June 2016 12:51 (seven years ago) link

cool, can't wait to get a red Time Walk next

Vinnie, Thursday, 30 June 2016 12:54 (seven years ago) link

but seriously, it'll be interesting to see if pure 2-card combo can make it back to Standard

Vinnie, Thursday, 30 June 2016 12:55 (seven years ago) link

handing your opponent various pacts seems fun

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 30 June 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link

murder at uncommon. black uncommon kill anything in SOI is just sinister concoction, right?

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 30 June 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

right, murder is standard-relevant, there's nothing more efficient already

ciderpress, Thursday, 30 June 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

my attitude with spoilers lately has shifted from "yay, new cards!" to "oh no, it's going to suck to have to play against this". Not sure that's a healthy attitude.

I am happy about good black removal and the possibility that vampires or werewolves might become standard-playable with this new set. The Eldrazi werewolves are a pretty neat idea. Merge seems kind of weird and clunky though.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 1 July 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link

I don't see anything that's likely to be obnoxiously omnipresent yet

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link

the only time vampires was a good constructed deck was because of Kalastria Highborn and i still don't see any card on that level. bloodhall priest is great but you need something lower on the curve that's really powerful and right now we just have lots of cards that aren't quite there

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/eldritchevolution.jpg
they're really poking the bear with this one, natural order does not seem like an effect that scales down safely

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link

re: vampires, it's just disappointing to me that in a set with these great horror creature types and cool mechanics, the one tribal deck to succeed is humans. I think that's a really boring choice for wizards to push.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

xp yeah i was wondering about that. there is definitely power there in combination with other acceleration. t3 gurmag angler t4 iona or inkwell leviathian or s/thing. and chaining a couple could be nuts. idk, doesn't quite seem broken tho.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

there are a whole host of creatures with come into play abilities that this would be very good with. agree that it seems dangerous but I can't think of anything offhand that would break it (someone will figure it out soon, I'm sure). seems pretty sick with Kitchen Finks at least

frogbs, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link

it's another tutor option for assembling the creature combos in modern (melira or kiki-jiki), at the least

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:48 (seven years ago) link

xp this happened last time around with the first innistrad block as well, humans were the strongest tribe for most of standard, though zombies ended up being good for a bit too

it's pretty much the same card that did it both times too, Champion of the Parish and now Thalia's Lieutenant

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

The combo of tutor + ramp... I guess no card is guaranteed play without the right home, but this seems destined to get played a lot. Not even a green creature restriction like Natural Order has!

Vinnie, Friday, 1 July 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

new tamiyo http://s3.gatheringmagic.com/uploads/2016/07/01/EH_1.jpg

main abilities are good, omniscience + draw 3 not too shabby as ultimates go

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 1 July 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link

potential gross addition to bant humans

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 1 July 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link

that's pretty underwhelming for a 3 color planeswalker, especially since all the abilities are in blue's color pie so it didn't need to be more colors

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link

bant humans doesn't have many non-creature slots available really though yeah that is the only deck it works in. could see it showing up as a 1-2 of

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

oh i missed that you can use the +1 on your opponents creatures that helps make it less bad when you're behind since it's still a draw 2 + soak some damage

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

that is a good point, they really didn't do anything at all mechanically to justify the change from u to wug

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

well 'draw a card on combat damage' is more of a green thing, blue gets draw a card on damage to opponent only. but there's no white ability for sure

ciderpress, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

(me, looking at spoilers for the new set): this one has grown old and bitter

( ^_^) (Lamp), Saturday, 2 July 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link

yeah I hate eldrazi decks so much that I actually hope they don't print good cards

iatee, Saturday, 2 July 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

the emerge cards/mechanic is troubling to me

ciderpress, Saturday, 2 July 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/distendedmindbender.jpg
this card is going to come down on turn 4, be a 5/5, and take your removal spell and win condition. i don't want to deal with this. they have been burned on cost reduction mechanics every time, how is this going to be any different

ciderpress, Saturday, 2 July 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

its kind of a nonbo w/ thought-knot seer i guess??

( ^_^) (Lamp), Saturday, 2 July 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

cider you usually have fun modern decks - what should i play this season? i havent played modern since early march

( ^_^) (Lamp), Saturday, 2 July 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link

i haven't played much modern lately, the only thing i've tried was the through the breach primeval titan deck which is decent, it's basically just a scapeshift deck that goes off a turn earlier at the cost of some resilience
this is the list more or less: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/419539#online

ciderpress, Saturday, 2 July 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

I think the suicide zoo deck is pretty fun though it only seems to put up good results online

iatee, Saturday, 2 July 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

agree about emerge, dunno if any of the spoiled cards are broken but I wouldn't be surprised if they threw in a pushed card or two ensure the mechanic sees play.

iatee, Saturday, 2 July 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

'to ensure that'

iatee, Saturday, 2 July 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

that one i linked and the craterhoof-like one look somewaht pushed to me

ciderpress, Saturday, 2 July 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

obv the latter requires a specific deck but it'd be really good if that deck exists

ciderpress, Saturday, 2 July 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

I think the colored mana for both of those two limits the power of those two in modern/legacy. any emerge card with a single colored mana in its emerge cost seems really dangerous since it doesn't require any real dedication to that color. like that 3/4 flying could be cast t2 in modern with an eldrazi temple and mimic.

iatee, Saturday, 2 July 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

in standard maybe those two do have a deck

iatee, Saturday, 2 July 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

wait I did the math wrong it can't be t2 5u-2-2 still requires 1u

iatee, Saturday, 2 July 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

Grim Flayer seems like a strange choice for a Mythic

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link


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