OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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*sobs*

maura, Saturday, 25 June 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

so many people shared that de la soul thing. if you write sucky stuff about things you don't like lots of non-media people will read you.

scott seward, Saturday, 25 June 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

The nihilism and violence of the second wave Norwegian scene was "interesting" insofar as it was a determinate negation of certain stupid tendencies within extreme music but it seems like a bad idea to argue that that sort of thing should be allowed to continue within the scene by people who should know better. The writer of that decibel piece seems like a bad person.

Treeship, Saturday, 25 June 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

Twenty years on, the No 1 album is by Radiohead (from the 90s), our funniest TV show is Frasier (from the 90s), our most eagerly awaited new film is Absolutely Fabulous (from the 90s), the Stone Roses (from the 90s) are forever back-back-BACK

I love Frasier, but I'm confused by this reference to Frasier.

soref, Monday, 4 July 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

Also aren't the Stone Roses from the '80s?

emil.y, Monday, 4 July 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/8cNmsAq.jpg

shit just got hyperlocal

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/music-review/yg-still-brazy

mookieproof, Monday, 4 July 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link

I wondered about that too. Did Frasier win some best sitcom poll? Or is she referring to the daily repeats on C4?

Is anyone eagerly awaiting the Ab Fab movie? That dead horse has been flogged to homeopathic levels.

Sylvia Patterson can be a fantastic features writer, but she was never someone I went to for critical insight. I mean, she gave Kula Shaker's K 9/10 in the NME. This tossed off clickbait is beneath her.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Monday, 4 July 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

That YG review is something special.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 4 July 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link

I'm more disturbed that the writer considers Noel Gallagher a sage.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 July 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

in which the editor of a website that doesn't pay its writers complains that writers are actually losing money every time they review a record because record companies are too cheap to send them hard copies of the music and how terribly unfair that is:

http://blurtonline.com/2016/07/fred-mills-economics-rock-criticism/

fact checking cuz, Monday, 4 July 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

new board description...

"Still Brazy is analogous to the very biosphere we inhabit, becoming oblique in the same instant we perceive it most lucidly."

scott seward, Monday, 4 July 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

i can't read that fred mills thing. mostly it reminds me that magnet magazine never paid me 10 bucks for a review once and i was too embarrassed to ask them for ten bucks.

scott seward, Monday, 4 July 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

nothing like a tiny mix tapes review to give me an enormous dose of perspective on my own overwriting

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 4 July 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

"Assume, as a base, that a reviewer spends 90 minutes listening to a 45-minute album twice before setting down to write. Then assume he/she puts in another 90 minutes’ minimum to write, proof, revise and finalize a review. Could be more, could be less, depending on the record."

this is not the amount of time it takes me to review a record

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 4 July 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

...I pullquoted way too soon didn't I

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 4 July 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

"if you actually want to keep the album, you’ll probably want to burn it to a CDR, print out some artwork or at least tracklisting, and insert both into a jewel case. That’s at least another buck for the disc, the printer paper, and the ink used printing it."

in what oblique biosphere are people still doing this in 2016? and why are they paying those prices?

fact checking cuz, Monday, 4 July 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

I do, sometimes.

Mark G, Monday, 4 July 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

I, also, wondered what that Frasier reference was about.

kinder, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

Twenty years on, the No 1 album is by Radiohead (from the 90s), our funniest TV show is Frasier (from the 90s), my favorite jeans are starting to get real worn these days (from the 90s), i subsist entirely on a diet from my storehouse of hungry man tv dinners (from the 90s), and my busted hip from a golfing mishap (from the 90s) is forever back back back

R.I.P. Haram-bae, the good posts goy (s.clover), Monday, 4 July 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

I'm excited for the ABFAB movie!!

maura, Monday, 4 July 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Me too tho Im waiting for the dvd...

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 4 July 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link

God that Frasier reference.

♫ Corbyn's on fire / PLP is terrified ♫ (jim in glasgow), Monday, 4 July 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

God that YG review

alpine static, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link

Also stating that the Spice Girls were the first example of a 'band as brand', even after comparing them directly to Take That.

Pretty much every 'it were better in them days' thinkpiece reads like this:

1. I know what you're thinking, but this isn't your typical 'it were better in them days' thinkpiece.
2. Here are a bunch of highly-subjective and carefully-selected things that I think were better in them days
3. Here are precisely zero examples of things that were worse in them days
4. Here is just one tenuous example of a thing that sucks about today.
5. Conclusion: 'it were better in them days'.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

Today we'll be serving a stark antiporous sonic aesthetic, braised in hyperlocalized zones, unfurled with viscous eraism. That's $34.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 7 July 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

So that's what happened to Fred Mills, whom I remember from his '80s zine days. I want to challenge him to write an article without either a) using the first person or b) referring back to interviews he's done or rockstars he's met.

OK, he can do b) once an article, since I don't believe he's capable of not doing it.

mike a, Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

Perhaps Frasier reruns are popular in England right now? Similar things have happened.

mike a, Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

Frasier is probably the most popular TV show on weird Twitter

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

spongebob

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 7 July 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

Seinfeld is back! Ads for Seinfeld on Hulu with Seinfeld fans make me hate that show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1frO8JjX3do

scott seward, Thursday, 7 July 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

reading or thinking or god forbid watching seinfeld makes me hate that show

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 7 July 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

a little tangential- as terrible as that la weekly piece was, i'm heartened by the response. it's helped me to realize why i find the christine chubbuck fetishists so disturbing. it's not because she died on tv. we've seen lots of people die on tv since then. it's because after she died the wapo published that sally quinn piece that jizzed on her corpse. that's where today's chubbuck-fetishist underground really comes from.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 July 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link

i had to google who that was. never heard of her! there was an LA Weekly story about her?

scott seward, Sunday, 10 July 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

i had to google who that was. never heard of her! there was an LA Weekly story about her?

― scott seward

nah, la weekly wasn't even founded until 1978. it's just that some of the backlash against art tavana's piece has focused on contextualizing his the piece in the larger history of journalism, and quinn's 1974 story on chubbuck's suicide is the most horrifying example of that style of writing i've read.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 July 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

i just read the Quinn thing. never heard of any of it.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 July 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

they're actually making i think two films about her. or a film and a play. not too sure. people magazine ran a story about her this february! back when i was young the only people who knew about chubbuck were people who read about her in "answer me!", you know, the standard "faces of death" enthusiasts, but the cult following keeps chugging along.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 July 2016 16:13 (seven years ago) link

see now i used to read answer me cover to cover and i don't remember the story. sadly, i'm guessing she's not more famous because there is no video.

and yeah two movies. that definitely ups the ante. the Quinn thing is definitely weirdly dated. mentioning that she was a virgin ten times for instance.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 July 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

so weird that there is a total of like two pictures of her on the internet and they are both stills from an interview she gave on t.v.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 July 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link

(they got a much softer-looking person to play her in the movie, of course.)

scott seward, Sunday, 10 July 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

i would argue that a lot of the reason she's famous is _because_ there's no video. i apologize here because this is getting super massively off thread topic, but when i was a kid people used to wax rhapsodic about this lost doctor who episode called "tomb of the cybermen", which was supposedly the greatest thing ever. and then they found a copy in hong kong, and it was badly made, racist crap.

if the actual video existed (which it assuredly does not), i don't think people would be as fascinated with her as they are, because no videotape could possibly match the rhapsodically pornographic prose quinn uses to describe chubbuck.

as for the lack of documentation of her life, it's less surprising than people think it is. people hear "news anchor" and they envision, like, katie couric blowing her head off on the nightly news. but she was nowhere near that important. the world's collective memory of her is based on mythology, a mythology created in a washington post article which needs to be understood as grossly inappropriate and offensive.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 July 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

I first found out about chubbock when I was browsing wikipedia and noticed a potentially interesting avenue among several

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32863603/15236_10152626849962290_3524264623697388226_n.jpg

O, Barack: flaws (wins), Sunday, 10 July 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

i don't find the sally quinn article "grossly inappropriate and offensive"

oculus lump (contenderizer), Sunday, 10 July 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

From five years ago: Man gets furious at Foster The People because he didn't listen to lyrics before playing song to his wife

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-03/entertainment/ct-ent-1004-foster-lyrics-20111004_1_school-shooting-pop-music-song

Shakey δσς (sic), Sunday, 10 July 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

that was your takeaway from that article

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

kudos

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

especially since it doesn't actually say that

I wonder if Noisey's multi-billion dollar parent company followed a PWYC policy when they bought up the space that was functioning DIY venue Death by Audio

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 00:35 (seven years ago) link


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