PINK FLOYD

... I want this.

it's good!

PINK FLOYDS RULES

Aaaaaaal ten of them!

Gilmour plays "One Of These Days" for the first time in 22 years
http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/07/david-gilmour-performs-pink-floyds-one-of-these-days-for-the-first-time-in-22-years-watch/

That song rules.
Heard some more rumblings about a 60s focused Floyd set coming out sometime in the near future...

i've been downloading a lot of 1971 floyd sets bc i have a fixation

If there was a bootleg box of 1971 Floyd shows like those Tangerine Dream "tree" bootleg sets, I would buy it.

It seems Gilmy plays the slide parts on OTTD on a lap steel? Nice

1970/71 are the best live years, hands down imho, I have tons of boots from those years.

Been trying to figure out how and why Waters became the purported focal point of Pink Floyd, or at least how he came to be seen as the sort of Robbie Robertson of the band. Up until "Animals," iirc, the band more or less shares songwriting, with Waters getting the "all lyrics by" credit (like anyone cares about that). After that he generally snags the "all music and lyrics by" credit, but was that just a power move/symbolic gesture? I just find it weird, because I like Waters less as a singer than I do Gilmour (and Wright), certainly less of a player than David and Nick, and can't imagine Floyd's success even in the later years, or especially in the later years, without Gilmour tempering Waters' cynicism et al.

Anyway, I've never dug into Floyd lore that deep because I generally don't care, but those of you who know this stuff, was it Waters' credits grab that started the schism? Is it just his behavior c. "The Wall" or post Floyd that earned him his rep as a Mike Love sort? Or was he always a jerk? Or was it more of a mutual thing, with Gilmour sort of a jerk, too? Certainly the rumored negotiations behind the 87 reunion did not make anyone look good.

except that a considerable proportion of floyd fans _do_ listen to them for the lyrics. the reason "dark side of the moon" was an immense, epoch-defining breakout album for them wasn't because they started writing better music on that album (they didn't). it was roger waters' epic bum trip that really hooked the kids, that started him being seen as an artist and a poet.

also worth bearing in mind that waters didn't exactly force a coup on the band over the strenuous objections of the rest of the group. after syd left, nobody wanted to be the frontman. they just wanted to hide in the back and play their instruments while distracting the crowd by occasionally crashing a plane into the stage. so while waters' growing ego became a problem, it was, i'd argue, part of the larger problem of their difficulties handling global mega-fame.

it's also worth considering the possibility that waters was having an increasing amount of difficulty writing lyrics to other people's music, particularly as the members of the band grew apart due to their circumstances. waters had to do a lot of lyric rewriting post-dsotm- he completely rewrote the lyrics to the songs that would become "dogs" and "sheep" after their 1974-1975 live performances, for instance. even more tellingly, there's a tape of early demo recordings for the "wall" album. it's mostly similar to the final version, except that "comfortably numb", where the music was written by david gilmour, has totally different lyrics... and they're garbage. just awful, awful lyrics. if the song had been released with those lyrics, it certainly would not enjoy the reputation it does today.

so this may be part of the reason waters wrote most of the music for _the wall_, even though roger waters' musical gifts are, uh, modest, to say the least.

Waters take looking back has always been that the other guys stopped contributing. It's a shame of course. I liked Rick Wright's early songwriting enough to make it my first thread on ILX.

What's a good 70/71 show to start with for live Floyd newbs?

the bbc recordings of 70/71 are a great start (71 is also known as "meddled")

the best bootleg in terms of playing/quality i've heard beyond that is '71 san diego

Wow these lyrics are indeed embarrassing o_O http://youtu.be/KFBcXwmNeUY

niels: not that one, goofball :)

I hate Waters but I think he had no choice but to step up to the plate as the rest of them just seem to have given up at some point - Rick Wright especially. BBC In Concert from 1970 is absolutely perfect - soundwise and performancewise - apart from Waters' (who else) abysmal "If".

Heard some more rumblings about a 60s focused Floyd set coming out sometime in the near future...

me too . . . fingers crossed. . . .

http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=98590&sid=807d86b4f6a7679cafbfe5dc1fd70b02

oh and

http://www.esf.edu/top10/2016/10.htm

Pink Floyd stamps

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0935/1310/files/Pink_Floyd_Stamps_large.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnSQ8A6WIAAbRA5.jpg

Yeah, scrap bibles in schools!

Wow these lyrics are indeed embarrassing o_O http://youtu.be/KFBcXwmNeUY

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niels: not that one, goofball :)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZjhIvsWWc

?

Oh, wait. This one is worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfIzrfkerDs

Behind the scenes photos of Gilmour at Pompeii: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/ng-interactive/2016/jul/14/david-gilmour-live-at-pompeii-a-photo-essay

Realized this morning that i'd never listened to Dark Side of the Moon in full. I listened to it expecting to be impressed but I couldn't sit through the whole thing. I don't know why! I like The Wall though.

That's wild to me.

Then again, my boss says he spent the summer after high school cleaning out a chicken house at night while listening to The Wall on repeat. I still haven't been able to look at him the same way since he told me that.

The clock shit is annoying

Too many slow songs

Good album though

"Money" is so awesome

Too many slow songs

Ah, so you're looking for
http://i.imgur.com/U1YYWBQ.jpg

haha

i'll take this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PKHYDqxEAE

^^lulz

re the comf numb text those demo lyrics for verse 1 and 2 are indeed p laughable imo peaking at
Listen. I am a physician. And I can handle your condition like a magician.

Listen to some punk groups

While listening to Animals again today, I found myself wondering why it doesn't quite have the reputation that Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here and The Wall have. To say it's an underrated record would just be plain stupid, as it's considered to be part of Floyd's so-called "classic" run, but where there's been countless articles on the albums before and after, and documentaries made about Dark Side... and Wish You Were Here, and you don't have to look very far online to read someone's geeky analysis of The Wall, Animals just doesn't get the same treatment, as great as it is.

It's also incredible to think that the bulk of Animals and Wish You Were Here was written during the same period, immediately post-Dark Side. Gilmour apparently wanted 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond' and the tracks that became 'Dogs' and 'Sheep' to be on the same album but Waters disagreed.

because the songs are too long for radio

xp listened to Animals this weekend & thought the same thing - mookieproof OTM

because the songs are too long for radio

"Do I hear dogs barking on that thing?"

Well also it's not "pretty" in the way that Dark Side or Wish are, which probably limits the fanbase.

There wasn't a single. The timeline was pretty compressed, as it is kind of wild to consider only four years pass from Dark Side to Animals. The two records before it were huge and probably threw quite a bit of shadow even on Animals as a new album. And in a couple more years (as Floyd came unglued in the background) an even more expansive and huge radio hit album in the Wall happens. I can kinda see why Animals isn't quite as known taking all that into regard.

I like going back to Animals more frequently because of its unfamiliarity in relation to the albums that surround it.

Animals is a bit of a relative triumph given how the in concert versions of You Gotta be Crazy and Raving & Drooling were so leaden.

I feel the pull of Roy Harper on this record too, especially Stormcock and HQ wrt structure and that kind of righteously ticked off vocal delivery.

Interestingly, once the early years box comes out, it'll be the only studio record left untouched by the reissue project (apart from The Final Cut and who is gonna go *there* in a hurry)

I think of Animals as Floyd's punk album - released in 1977, nasty lyrics, unusually vigorous playing.

vocals on Sheep are pretty David Byrnish

I once asked Guy Pratt if Waters played much bass on the record, the bass on Pigs seemed unusually dextrous for Waters, he just laughed and looked at me like I was an idiot.

The 8-track version of "Pigs on the Wing" with Snowy White guitar solo in the middle rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGSPUOaHYn4

I crack up silly whenever I hear that thing.

I mean, it is good and all. Just sounds out of place after hearing it the other way for 20 years.