Conventional Mealy Mouths: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 5

like Trump tweeting out "Hillary making up more lies about me/things I never said" being immediately responded to with a list of citations, that's the sort of thing I expect a lot of in this election

btw what was this Biden speech ppl were talking about upthread? I didn't see that covered anywhere

it's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF82N0B2VYE

ah thx

good speech, altho I did lol that he misattributes Stalin's line to Mussolini and misremembers that Life cereal commercial

Newly released State Department emails help reveal how a major Clinton Foundation donor was placed on a sensitive government intelligence advisory board even though he had no obvious experience in the field, a decision that appeared to baffle the department’s professional staff.

The emails further reveal how, after inquiries from ABC News, the Clinton staff sought to “protect the name” of the Secretary, “stall” the ABC News reporter and ultimately accept the resignation of the donor just two days later.

Copies of dozens of internal emails were provided to ABC News by the conservative political group Citizens United, which obtained them under the Freedom of Information Act after more the two years of litigation with the government.

A prolific fundraiser for Democratic candidates and contributor to the Clinton Foundation, who later traveled with Bill Clinton on a trip to Africa, Rajiv K. Fernando’s only known qualification for a seat on the International Security Advisory Board (ISAB) was his technological know-how. The Chicago securities trader, who specialized in electronic investing, sat alongside an august collection of nuclear scientists, former cabinet secretaries and members of Congress to advise Hillary Clinton on the use of tactical nuclear weapons and on other crucial arms control issues.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-donor-sensitive-intelligence-board/story?id=39710624

gonna have to do better than that

i thought the primaries were over. i'd die before voting for trump (or any republican, really)

So what is the GOP game plan here? Tolerate/endorse Trump just enough to keep the Trump voters from bolting, while essentially conceding the election?

― A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra)

eagleton

not saying I know much or agree with any of this but: "Rajiv K. Fernando’s only known qualification for a seat on the International Security Advisory Board (ISAB) was his technological know-how" . ... so, in what way was he not qualified?

who knows what terrible havoc he wreaked during the two days he was on the board

next you'll be telling me we have inexperienced cronies serving as US ambassadors

"Fernando's expertise appeared to be in the arena of high-frequency trading -- a form of computer-generated stock trading. At the time of his appointment, he headed a firm, Chopper Trading, that was a leader in that field."

One of my IRL Berniebros posted that article (as have dozens of others). It's like, congrats, you're officially useful idiots, doing the Trump team's oppo work for them!

when The Corner posted that Clinton story a couple hours ago I thought, "OK, well, when haven't inexperienced or incompetent hacks been placed in Cabinet/governmental positions?"

I'm sure the mathematics and strategy behind algorithmic stock trading have no bearing whatsoever on international security, which clearly has nothing to do with computers, infosec or data analysis.

thsi shit always happens and while it's NAGL it's also not illegal so who gives a fuck

trump trolling

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/741351028273086464

when The Corner posted that Clinton story a couple hours ago I thought, "OK, well, when haven't inexperienced or incompetent hacks been placed in Cabinet/governmental positions?"

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, June 10, 2016 3:21 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

President Trump says, "You ain't seen nothin' yet! I assure you I'll have the hackiest, croniest cabinet imaginable! Trace Adkins is already picking wallpaper!"

dunno how to judge that story, not knowing any of the particulars

there's plenty of examples in history of jumped-up loyalists being placed in seats they had have no business keeping warm

...but the national security establishment is rigid, clannish and self-dealing.

we keep hearing that finance and tech is another frontier in asymmetrical war/terrorism

...but installing some wall street HFT bod in a position of nuclear sensitivity doesn't look good to me either

kinda depends on your preexisting sense of hillary's trustworthiness or judgement doesn't it

this guy is such a gift:

“Well, I am not a racist, in fact, I am the least racist person that you’ve ever encountered. I’ll give you an example. It’s funny, I just got this, it was just sent to me by Don King. Now, Don knows more about race than anybody. He owns this newspaper, you know — Don’s made a lot of money. He just sent this to me, look at this.”

He handed me a copy of the latest edition of the Call & Post, a black weekly based in Cleveland that King owns. On the back of the paper was a full-page announcement endorsing Trump for president and Bernie Sanders for vice president.

“Isn’t that funny?” Trump continued. “You know, Don endorsed me. You wanna take that back with you? You know, this could be a story, it just came out. He just delivered it to my office. But isn’t that funny? This is Don King. Now, Don King knows racism probably better than anybody. He’s not endorsing a racist, okay? Do you want to use it? You can have the story, it just came out. I just got it 10 minutes ago, I don’t know. Whatever.”

I can't resist posting all these, so classic

"But Bill Clinton was called a racist by Obama. Okay? And I don’t believe he’s a racist, but he was called a racist by Obama, and very loudly and very strongly. And to this day, Clinton, he is haunted by that, he hated that. And I do too, but I don’t think people believe Clinton is a racist. I don’t think they believe that I’m a racist.”

In the controversy Trump was describing, then-Sen. Barack Obama did not call former president Bill Clinton a racist. During the 2008 Democratic primaries, aides to Obama, who was running against then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, criticized Bill Clinton for dismissing Obama’s popularity as a “fairy tale.”

it's almost as if what one says or does have no bearing on whether you're a racist or not, it's what *other* people say about you that determines it

’ll give you an example. It’s funny, I just got this, it was just sent to me by Don King. Now, Don knows more about race than anybody. He owns this newspaper, you know — Don’s made a lot of money

a spectacular accruing of thoughts

"thoughts"

I just got it 10 minutes ago, I don’t know. Whatever.

trump could have written this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ECZnpVEaA

it's almost as if what one says or does has no bearing on whether you're making ends meet or not, so tilted is the *job market*

Suggesting part 6, in case anyone hasn't yet. Almost 6,000 posts, and you've more or less officially got your two nominees.

i tried

American Politics 2016: BLM intruders in Philly / Cleveland

I think there's already a general politics thread, and to extend this one, you've got to specify "________________________: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 6."

prob time for general election pt 1 tho

lessor of two weevils

I think here:

Curb Your Authoritarianism? The 2016 Conventional Wisdom Thread (Elections, Part 6)

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I know a guy that's going to vote for Gary Johnson

i know several but they're all republicans.