Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Is Bob Mould the American Gaz Coombs?

MarkoP, Monday, 30 May 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

the biggest problem w/ discover weekly is that it seems to only really work for a very specific subset of genres. i listen to tons to international music and folk music but my playlist is constantly populated w/ american indie acts. i don't think i've ever seen an african artist on the list, or an israeli artist, or a folk metal band. i guess it can only suggest what a lot of ppl are listening to so the more niche the genre the less results it'll have but it's still pretty disappointing to check it out and it is strongly suggesting that i might dig animal collective.

Mordy, Monday, 30 May 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

I'm pretty happy with DW but I agree with this.

Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 May 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link

I get one or two African artists a week and I don't even listen to that much international music! Hipster faves like William Onyeabor and Ata Kak but also things like Toumani Diabaté (maybe he is a hipster fave too idk).

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Monday, 30 May 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

My own DW suffers from this, too. I never get any metal. I know that some people who listen to metal a little more exclusively do get metal in their DWs, so it's not that it isn't possible, but there's definitely a skew towards the things most actively playlisted. There is work coming to try to address this more directly, and there are also some other personalized things on the way that use different techniques entirely...

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 30 May 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link

lol just opened this week's DW and the first tune is from Fela (feat. Ginger Baker).

Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 May 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

What I would love from DW is that I could give it some parameters based on what I feel like listening to. Like, currently DW mostly lists very recent stuff, this is probably normal since I mostly use Spotify for checking out stuff that I want to hear, which will generally skew towards newish stuff for the most part.

I would love it if I could tell spotify something like "based on the stuff I listen to, make me a playlist of tracks from the 70s" or "make me a reggae playlist" or "only play instrumentals" or whatever. Basically specific personalized playlists based on your listening habits.

silverfish, Monday, 30 May 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

or at least a way to cull it -- today turned up one instrumental by Julia Kent, which is phenomenal, but alongside the likes of SOPHIE and Panda Bear and something called "hashtag IRL" by something called "Throwing Shade," which I feel worse having read and typed. it's just incoherent, or at least incoherent in a different way than I am

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 30 May 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

Since I don't get alerts anymore, I'm relying on DW to tell me things like "Sébastien Tellier just released something". Not sure this is the ideal user experience though.

xp hey I got "hashtag IRL" too! Also not listening to it.

ǂbait (seandalai), Monday, 30 May 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

(and yes, I realize I am very much not the listener habit that this is designed for, even less considering that I often listen to music for review purposes on Spotify. which results in the outlier of being recommended things I have already reviewed. but again, this is too much of an edge case to really do anything about)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 30 May 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

something called "hashtag IRL" by something called "Throwing Shade,

lol

mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 30 May 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

i don't know if the newer versions already have this but a follow artist feature that updates you whenever a new single or album comes out would be fantastic

Mordy, Monday, 30 May 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

(sob)

ǂbait (seandalai), Monday, 30 May 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

Still waiting for the smart playlist feature that auto-updates a playlist built with search terms.

schwantz, Monday, 30 May 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

today turned up one instrumental by Julia Kent

i was turned onto her a while ago by DW; beautiful stuff

https://www.macstories.net/stories/i-made-you-a-mixtape/

ulysses, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

oh was at a friends BBQ on sunday and was using the Serato Pyro app to make a beatmatched mix on the fly. It was pretty fun and easy to us.

https://seratopyro.com/

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

just noticed the (free, PC) spotify app doesn't have the alert icon showing you all the recent additions from followed artists. that sucks.

goole, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Discover Weekly has songs I've been thinking about (but not talking or posting about) this week. Spookify!

Q for glenn if he can be bothered "shilling" some more

Do the magic algorithms take note of track skipping? If I skip Morrissey every week will he eventually disappear?

a goon shaped fule (onimo), Friday, 3 June 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

no

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

You can't make Morrissey disappear that easily

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

does discover weekly ignore plays in the discover weekly playlist?

i'm thinking not, since i really only listen to discover weekly at the moment, and it seems to have got stuck in a positive feedback loop of thinking i like the 25 garbage indie tracks i have to skip every week as much as the 5 songs i let play all the way through.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

Can't remember where I read it, I think on one of the links I posted way upthread, but I distinctly recall that it does ignore plays in the discover weekly playlist, unless you save the tracks or add them to another playlist or whatever.

I've been using an IFTTT recipe to save all my DW tracks to a playlist so that I can see the history, so unfortunately I think that action does influence future DW lists :(

Dan I., Friday, 3 June 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

The bell icon is still present in the web player fwiw

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 3 June 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

i'm thinking not, since i really only listen to discover weekly at the moment, and it seems to have got stuck in a positive feedback loop of thinking i like the 25 garbage indie tracks i have to skip every week as much as the 5 songs i let play all the way through.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, June 3, 2016 1:13 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the genesis of VVVVV

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 3 June 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

just canned premium because i can't justify three music services. it was still giving me the burger menu when i killed it, idk maybe i'm a non-essential customer or something.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 4 June 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link

just noticed the (free, PC) spotify app doesn't have the alert icon showing you all the recent additions from followed artists. that sucks.

Yeah, that seems to have been yanked in the most recent update.

The bell icon is still present in the web player fwiw

What are we, savages?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 June 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link

Anybody else have the Slits on DW this week? They're definitely a band that would show up in my playlist, but I'm having a moment of paranoia that Spotify would give them an extra nudge because they're a name in the news in the last few days.

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Monday, 6 June 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

There's no nudging in DW. I guess it's produced in a facility that also produces editorial products, but it uses different equipment, so it should be pretty safe for the nudge-allergic.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

But people read news, and then go listen to things on Spotify, so it's totally expected that events in the world can end up affecting recommendations that are based on collective listening patterns.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

Spotify has been telling me it has lost the internet connection a lot lately. It's fine when I restart it but there has been a lot of restarting. I don't wanna live this way.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

felt a brief nostalgic impulse to traverse some of my family's inexplicable understanding of 80s tastefulness and found that there are no Flim & the BB's recordings on spotify

goole, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Lol

The Servant of Two Jam Masters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

I had a roommate who was an early adapter to CDs and that was one of the first few he got. He always played it whenever we had a visitor to impress them with the sonics.

The Servant of Two Jam Masters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

Early adopter

The Servant of Two Jam Masters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Haven't gotten into my DW Playlists the previous few weeks but this one is top shelf.

Poe, I know all about Ulalume (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

it's pornographic?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

There are so many missed opportunities that I just can't imagine would be that difficult to provide. For example, the ability to search for playlists that contain a certain song would be huge. You can approximate this by Googling: site:spotify.com inurl:"playlist" "[artist name]" "[song name]"
...but why isn't that available in app?

Dan I., Thursday, 23 June 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

It's one of those things that you just sort of assume would be available by default whenever you do a search, until you find that it's not.

Dan I., Thursday, 23 June 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

All playlist-searching things are complicated by the fact that there are billions of playlists on Spotify. Improvements will come, but when you can't imagine why the one you're wanting would be difficult, sometimes that's the thing you aren't imagining...

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

Ah, I see, thanks. That makes sense.

Dan I., Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

I definitely didn't antagonize any Spotify co-workers by impatiently demanding obvious-seeming features before fully comprehending this myself. No way.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

My laptop is glitching which means I can't put anything new on my iPod which in turn means that I finally got over myself and tried Spotify for the first time ever yesterday and was jamming out to a pretty cool space jazz playlist and discovering some cool new things and then the app kept telling me that I wasn't connected to the internet except for the thing where I was totally connected to the internet and it hasn't worked since. Oh well. It was fun for about nine minutes.

There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

I definitely didn't antagonize any Spotify co-workers by impatiently demanding obvious-seeming features before fully comprehending this myself. No way.

Lol

Poe, I know all about Ulalume (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 June 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

plz keep antagonizing them until they get local files figured out

Mordy, Thursday, 23 June 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

If I worked a Spotify I would add stars emoji to every email I sent.

Jeff, Thursday, 23 June 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 23 June 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

just a few months ago the correct (1983) version of "Temple of Love" was on the Sisters of Mercy's Some Girls Wander By Mistake: http://open.spotify.com/album/42HVWb7R8TxLHgVjc2OOIV

now it's been replaced by the 1992 version, which has never been part of this album's official tracklist. what happened? I'm bummed.

ejemplo (crüt), Monday, 27 June 2016 12:01 (seven years ago) link

Weird, looks like that was a label decision. Or a label action, anyway. Whether it was intentional or not is a different question.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 27 June 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

found a DIY way to use the Star playlist
https://ifttt.com/recipes/311224-save-a-track-in-spotify-and-add-to-playlist

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 July 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link


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