I suppose it's down to your entry point into the band, though... for me, I got into the pre-Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me stuff first, whereas someone who heard Disintegration first might rate it higher? Disintegration to me is like a ramped up version of Faith... Faith on steroids.
― Turrican, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
Disintegration is a bore. Don't be sorry.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
hey now
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
disintegration was my first cure record and it took me a long time to love it (although i fell for "plainsong" immediately) but it's sorta got everything in there while also managing to sustain an incredible mood
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
idk what my favorite cure record is though. faith?
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
I got all I want (!) from glacially paced dour Cure listening to "Sinking."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link
I prefer the vinyl config that cuts 'Last Dance' and 'Homesick', and it's still a long record even then.
― Turrican, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link
I have a fantastic bootleg from the Top tour with Phil still on bass and Boris in on drums (maybe his first or second show ever, if I recall correctly). I'll post it when I get home if enough people are interested.
― Austin, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
i have the vinyl, i hate that it's missing homesick. I would have cut something else, dunno what. anyway it's been reissued as a double with noithing cut.
― akm, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
The Head on the DoorFaithPornographyThe TopJapanese WhispersSeventeen SecondsDisintegrationThree Imaginary BoysWishKiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me4:13 DreamBloodflowersThe CureWild Mood Swings
...is the way I'd rank them overall, I think.
― Turrican, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
x-post:
'Homesick' is my least favourite song on there by a zillion miles (dare I say it, one of my very least favourite songs of their so-called "classic" period) so I don't miss it on the vinyl version.
― Turrican, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link
KMKMKM so far down that ranking is astonishing to me
― nate woolls, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link
Listen you
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link
at least turrican and I agree on the bottom 4
― akm, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link
not loving disintegration to me is weird. but putting head on the door tells me you like different things about the cure than I do (which is towering monoliths of gloom sound)
― akm, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
also how anyone can dislike homesick I don't know
― akm, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
xxxx-post:
Yeah, but look at the albums above it! There's a lot of tracks I love on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, but there's also a lot of stuff that would have easily been chopped if they'd had to whittle it down to a single album.
I've never really been a big fan of 'Fight', for example.
― Turrican, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link
― akm, Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:39 PM
I like sex-crazed drug-addled pop Cure.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, akm, but I ranked Faith second and Pornography third, and we're talking about a less than paper thin difference between the rankings at the top end there.
― Turrican, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
ditto
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
xx-post:
as opposed to... sex-crazed drug-addled gloom Cure?
― Turrican, Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link
you bet!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
Ah, for me it's never really been a question of "happy Cure vs. gloom Cure" ... I think it's entirely possible to like both sides of what the band do, and I do. I just prefer the way they did the former on The Head on the Door to the way they did it on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, and the way they did the latter on Faith and Pornography to the way they did it on Disintegration.
― Turrican, Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link
There's a lot of tracks I love on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me, but there's also a lot of stuff that would have easily been chopped if they'd had to whittle it down to a single album.
I might let you cut some tracks off KMKMKM, but only if I get to replace them with "A Japanese Dream", "Breathe", and "To The Sky".
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link
The Cure in Las Vegas tonight. it's getting closer, i could not be any more excited for Sunday Night.
― Bee OK, Friday, 20 May 2016 03:09 (seven years ago) link
I'm also bemused by the disproportionate focus on Disintegration in the band's catalogue.
Love a good ranking exercise:
FaithThe TopKiss Me Kiss Me Kiss MeWishJapanese WhispersSeventeen SecondsPornographyDisintegrationThe Head on the DoorThree Imaginary BoysWild Mood SwingsThe Cure4:13 DreamBloodflowers
― Birds in Hell, Friday, 20 May 2016 08:25 (seven years ago) link
In terms of how often I play them -
Seventeen SecondsThe Head on the DoorConcertThe TopFaithJapanese WhispersDisintegrationPornographyStanding on a BeachThree Imaginary BoysKiss Me Kiss Me Kiss MeBloodflowers... the remainder, played once or twice each ...
― MatthewK, Friday, 20 May 2016 08:33 (seven years ago) link
PornographyFaithDisintegrationThe TopKM^3Japanese WhispersWish4:13 DreamSeventeen SecondsThe CureThe Head on the DoorThree Imaginary BoysBloodflowershi-def coprophagy videospounding nails through my fingertipsWild Mood Swings
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
wow, 4:13 so high?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link
yup
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link
punk Cure and gloom Cure >>>> pop Cure
― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link
pornographythe topseventeen secondsfaiththe rest
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:37 (seven years ago) link
pop Cure is great but I prefer it as frosting on a morose cupcake
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:37 (seven years ago) link
i've always felt they hit their peak of well-frosted cupcakes on Hi-Def Coprophagy Videos
― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link
ew cupcakes
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link
The Head on The DoorJapanese WhispersThe TopWishThree Imaginary BoysSeventeen SecondsFaithSeventeen SecondsDisintegration
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 May 2016 13:47 (seven years ago) link
Seventeen SecondsHead On The DoorDisintegrationFaithKMKMKMJapanese WhispersPornogrphyThe TopThree Imaginary BoysWishNever Heard anything recorded after Wish
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 20 May 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link
No 'new' songs on this tour last night, but given what they've dug up so far who can complain?
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-cure/2016/the-chelsea-las-vegas-nv-6bfebac2.html
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 May 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link
killer #17-20
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 May 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link
hopefully by the time they reach Washington State they've realized everything after 1989 is pointless and just play the good stuff (except Never Enough, they can play that).
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 20 May 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
Wish is not pointless!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 May 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link
You're right. Wish isn't bad. It is the album that made me give up on them though. The songs I liked best felt like intentional rewrites of Disintegration highlights.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 20 May 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
When they played that secret gig in 91 and premiered 4 new songs, I really thought that album was gonna be the greatest thing ever. It's still pretty good but perhaps it could have been great had they not started second-guessing things during the recording sessions.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 20 May 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link
i haven't listened the s/t in years and am finally diving into a copy that includes "truth goodness and beauty" and "going nowhere." anyway wow "lost" is so wild, I kinda forgot
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 20 May 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link
in preparation for the concernt, I decided to use my trial Tidal membership to listen to the Cure discography from beginning to end...
damn...following up Three Imaginary Boys with Seventeen Seconds is one of the great "step yo game up" moves in rock history jesus...it's kinda crazy how much they improved and focused what the band was about...like one minute they are petering out the end of an album with a half assed "Foxy Lady" cover then they are dropping shit like "A Forest"
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 May 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
I really love two albums which are not proper albums but absolutely wonderful as they condense what i love about the cure. "Mixed up", the remix album from 1990 which got very bad reviews at the time but which updated their sound and still holds today and is a terrific album for parties. The other one i love is "entreat" the live album from the disintegration period which i listened to before disintegration. And somehow i find the live versions more to the point, more touching than the studio versions. Of the proper albums faith and 17 seconds are my faves. I quite like wish - it hit me when it came out - and never understood the appeal of the top which actually was the 1st album i ever heard of the band and which turned me off them for quote some time.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link
I still maintain that Boys Don't Cry > Three Imaginary Boys
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
DisintegrationThe TopWishFaithPornographySeventeen SecondsKiss MeHead on the DoorJapanese WhispersThree Imaginary BoysBloodflowersThe Cure4:13 DreamWild Moon Swings
― akm, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
mooon swings. whatever.
yeah BDC is better than 3 Imaginary Boys.
― akm, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link