I like when americans are like "well, they don't really have racism in Australia so they can't understand"
doubling down on not knowing anything about other people
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
Oh I'm well aware there's shitloads of racism down under too
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link
We dont have racism? Geez do people think that? We have an underclass living in a literal 3rd world environment in this country.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link
Isn't there also a long and fairly recent history of Australian white supremacy politics oh hey look yes there is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 23:58 (seven years ago) link
I think we're all on board with the "Australia has racism" theory.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link
They didn't ship other human beings en masse to be used as slaves for three centuries, but you probably don't want to get into a conversation with some of them about boats either.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link
Our racism is surely different than in the US: its all about "we grew here, you flew here"/"go back where you came from" BS. And it is very ugly. Anyway I'm sure I'm preaching to le choir here on this.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link
I was wondering if dude was going to get offered a pass for being NZ or for being in Oklahoma.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I was referencing Americans being apologetic for Australians being dumb about race. Like, say, an American rapper who had to walk back his comments about an Australian he mentored
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link
― Stoop Crone (Trayce)
Surely they don't say that to the native (pre-Euro) Australians.
― nickn, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:55 (seven years ago) link
don't underestimate the idiocy
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link
No, they just call all koori folk drunks and welfare cheats :(
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 03:08 (seven years ago) link
http://www.citylab.com/housing/2016/05/brown-v-board-v-airbnb/483725/
― ulysses, Monday, 23 May 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2016/05/five-elected-as-overseers/?link_id=0&can_id=63bc3a82f39ac828495b3b3ffa5194d3&source=email-congratulations-to-the-newly-elected-overseers&email_referrer=congratulations-to-the-newly-elected-overseers&email_subject=congratulations-to-the-newly-elected-overseers
This is really insider-baseball stuff around the Harvard Board of Overseers election but the breakdown is this:
- The admissions process takes into account both tangible and non-tangible factors when attempting to build a talented, diverse freshman class; one of those factors is race- A group of conservatives who were opposed to the inclusion of race as a distinguishing criterion put together a slate of nominees under the name "Free Harvard, Fair Harvard" advocating for much greater financial aid across the board for all students oh and removing some the considerations that were allowing some of the black and Hispanic students in the door; they allied with a group of disgruntled Asian-Americans who felt that these considerations were artificially keeping the number of Asians at Harvard low to make space for less worthy students (side note: one does not need to be a Harvard graduate to run for Overseer)- A good segment of the alumni base was appalled by this and put forward their own slate of nominees who were committed to the overall diversity initiatives that Harvard had committed to and was trying to improve, both in terms of admissions and on-campus support for the students who needed it once they got there; this group operated under the name Coalition for a Diverse Harvard- A seriously contentious argument between the two factions raged across social media, with one side-effect being the discovery that one of the "Free Harvard, Fair Harvard" people was an attorney who sued UT Austin over "racial quotas" and another had spoken at an event with some white power groups- As shown in that link, the Coalition won, thank god
― DJP, Monday, 23 May 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
oh ALSO Ralph Nader was helping lead the charge on the Free Harvard/Fair Harvard side and was one of the names on the slate
― DJP, Monday, 23 May 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
wtf Nader
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 23 May 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
never forget, Nader wondered if Obama would be "an Uncle Tom for corporations" immediately after Obama won the presidency:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/05/nader-defends-obama-slur/?_r=0
He then redefined his entire political brand into "racebaiting from the left" so it's really not at all surprising that he would dive headfirst into this bullshit
― DJP, Monday, 23 May 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link
on the flip side, the thing Nader does best these days is lose elections so I have no idea why FHFH were so eager to partner with him
― DJP, Monday, 23 May 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
http://theundefeated.com/features/mission-impossible-african-americans-analytics/
(TW: sports) this is a really interesting topic that i wish were tackled by a better writer, and not one who's a stats-hating dinosaur
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 May 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link
(ftr i have a lot of respect for wilbon's career, obviously, but i don't think it's a controversial opinion to say the industry's passed him by)
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 May 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
the second half of that article is a lot more interesting, to be sure, once i got through the groaners
― Nhex, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link
Good, long Guardian piece on "the enduring whiteness of American journalism" by Howard French
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2016/may/25/sports-analytics-african-americans-michael-wilbon-article
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/25/white-high-school-football-players-in-idaho-charged-with-raping-black-disabled-teammate-with-a-coat-hanger/?postshare=3241464184999722&tid=ss_fb
Hang onto this the next time someone says "kids are growing up less racist"
― DJP, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
that is insanely fucked up and sad beyond words.
― ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
stuck somewhere beteewn nausea & rage myself
― da vinci beaver testicles (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 17:10 (seven years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/05/24/commencement-speaker-gets-booed-after-speaking-briefly-in-spanish-and-criticizing-trump/
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
Gizmodo jumps straight to the point:
http://gizmodo.com/yo-fuck-this-commercial-1778914903
― DJP, Thursday, 26 May 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
Without even clicking, I'm guessing that's the Chinese detergent ad.
― pplains, Friday, 27 May 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link
Anyway. I thought it was a better idea when it went the other way.
http://i.imgur.com/Y2uIS04.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 27 May 2016 02:11 (seven years ago) link
It wasn't a better idea
― DJP, Friday, 27 May 2016 02:38 (seven years ago) link
I'm really bothered by the cal state fullerton thing. how the shit do you graduate in a class that's 40% latino and then get screaming mad when part of the commencement speech is in Spanish? How fucking pathetic and stupid and tiny-dicked do you have to be to think you have any cause to act like that? Who fucking raised you? I'm from fucking Alabama. I don't understand you children. Please leave.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 27 May 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link
This Alesha Dixon thing on another thread?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 29 May 2016 10:56 (seven years ago) link
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/long-lost-manuscript-contains-searing-eyewitness-account-tulsa-race-massacre-1921-180959251/
― 龜, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link
Wait so this Alesha Dixon thing, the controversy is that a black woman told a bunch of black men that they were awesome black men? Is this accurate?
― DJP, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link
(also I am bookmarking that Smithsonian link for a time when I am less likely to cry while reading it)
― DJP, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link
goes w/out saying, but avoid the comments
― like $500 billion in stuffed fart sales and I have an idea (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link
Stop fucking avoiding the comments. Read them and understand what people are capable of.
― DJP, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link
― DJP, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 16:35
She called them "sexy chocolate men" and people on social media demanded she apologize or be fired and it has been said she isn't allowed to perform her new single on the talent show (might be unconnected though). I think it's mostly white people who were complaining.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link
lol at mostly
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
I didn't want to assume too much because I haven't trawled through enough
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
So... yes, then.
What a stupid controversy
― DJP, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
― DJP, Tuesday, May 31, 2016 8:55 AM (3 hours ago)
well, i mentioned it because i didn't avoid them and learned nothing. ymmv.
― like $500 billion in stuffed fart sales and I have an idea (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 May 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link
re Trump's history of racism:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/569355/donald-trumps-first-quoted-words-new-york-times-42-years-ago-thats-ridiculous
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 June 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
Well, our (Scotland's) First Minister has said she won't meet Trump when he visits Scotland. It's for his golf resort, which was widely opposed but went ahead anyway. It's odd how much this election campaign has mentioned Britain - arguments about the mayor of London etc.
Also, I don't think Trump wants to be president - he just wants to be elected president. I.e. He wants to win, but that's all. Can you imagine how bored he would be as president? His biography doesn't show a guy who commits to jobs well. He's a quitter, really. (Not that quitter is an insult - I come from a long line of quitters, and I am proud to count myself amongst their ranks)
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 2 June 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link
It's odd how much this election campaign has mentioned Britain - arguments about the mayor of London etc.l
and yet trump had not the first fucking clue what brexit was in that hollywood reporter article from the other day
― benzarro ghazarri (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 June 2016 15:37 (seven years ago) link
I didn't know his golf resort went ahead, I thought everyone opposed it. How did he get permission?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 2 June 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link
Ask Alex Salmond.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 June 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
wtf is wrong with people?
http://addictinginfo.org/2016/06/10/racist-conservatives-wish-sasha-obama-a-happy-15th-birthday-hope-u-get-raped-screenshots/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 12 June 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
I have nothing to say about Alton Sterling. We've seen this so many times already, I have no idea what can be added to the conversation.
― volumetric god rays (DJP), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link