i think he'll have to write to keep the ringer's traffic afloat in the short term but maybe he will be stretched too thin
― J0rdan S., Monday, 16 May 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link
reminds me of this gem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqK-hG8Qhh4
― verhexen, Monday, 16 May 2016 23:47 (seven years ago) link
kind of liked the promo *shrugs*
fwiw, haven't listened to the podcast in weeks.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:26 (seven years ago) link
why does everybody keep assuming the ringer needs to generate profit? honestly, that should be the least of their concerns for the foreseeable future. the entire point of vc is to grow your market (or audience).
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link
they're still hiring like drunken sailors so i tend to agree.
i've been off the pod mostly due to the non-sports guests but the one he did with travon free was great, that guy is pretty engaging.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link
bill simmons has exactly nothing to do with vc
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link
the ringer is raising vc
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link
point is a high end vanity project has no chance to be profitable ever in todays media environment
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link
tho who knows maybe theyll be more willing to engage in content farming than grantland was
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link
simmons seemed extremely opposed to that sort of thing, he thought if he cld just hire as many writers he liked that of course ppl wld want to read it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link
even if it doesn't ultimately make a difference i'm p. certain this will be under better stewardship than grantland was with espn
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link
they can say fuck now that prob gets the vc pouring in
― Clay, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link
espn is a hugely successful company whos calling the shots w this startup thingy idk xp
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link
idk either but i do know disney/espn is about as traditional a media company as there is, not sure how grantland ever was supposed to fit into their thing. it has a better chance on its own.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link
the ringer isn't owned by hbo? figured it was
― Clay, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link
separate venture iirc
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link
simmons maintaining a good relationship w his espn benefactors was his best shot
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link
they let him on tv they gave him his own site its kinda funny
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 02:16 (seven years ago) link
espn was a hugely successful company
― balls, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 05:33 (seven years ago) link
hbo promos are kinda always awful but i'm still a bit skeptical of whether the show will work, if he was willing to do an hour long free flowing conversation i could see it being enjoyable but what he's mentioned it seems like that is not going to be the case. hbo probably doesn't care much either way, they just want content as they prep toward moving more and more to being a streaming service. would have to imagine there's some hbo stake in the ringer but there's apparently definitely heavy vc cash and that whole pod he did w/ louis ck where they were talking about how at this moment creating and owning content is basically minting cash makes me wonder what the structure is. if/when the ringer does happen he'll write something if only to drive traffic but it's been very apparent his heart hasn't really been in writing for a while, i can remember him mentioning tony kornheiser telling him there would come a point when the writing would go and little things he's said (there were a couple of comments during the david chang pod specifically) that pretty much confirmed his writing is purely to help the ringer or just get out an opinion he needs out there.
― balls, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 05:47 (seven years ago) link
that whole pod he did w/ louis ck where they were talking about how at this moment creating and owning content is basically minting cash
lol wut
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 05:49 (seven years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3536776/Louis-C-K-claims-s-millions-debt-using-money-produce-web-series-Horace-Pete-s.html
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 05:50 (seven years ago) link
lol daily mail. goon really? www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/louis-ck-clarifies-he-is-886305
fun fact: almost no tv show makes a profit first run. the only one currently airing that does iirc is the walking dead.
― balls, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 05:59 (seven years ago) link
eh when he sells Horace and Pete to Netflix or Hulu or whatever he'll be in the black
― Clay, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 06:01 (seven years ago) link
yeah once his gloomy realist drama about a dying bar hits netflix the cash will start rolling in for sure
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 06:02 (seven years ago) link
i used the daily mail cause their url is the best, most shows never make a profit which is a group his web series is destined to join, which is why ppl tend not to self finance
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link
he's already made a profit selling it to weirdos in his site
― balls, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 06:04 (seven years ago) link
no way has he earned a profit yet
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 06:07 (seven years ago) link
louie self produced a stand up special that did really well then was all i have this notoriously difficult business figured out then went online and talked w bill simmons abt how content is king during the million consecutive tsunami hitting the industry simmons creates content for, moral of the story its good to be a star
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 06:07 (seven years ago) link
in rainbows redux
― balls, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 06:09 (seven years ago) link
tfw soup is the perfect food https://twitter.com/hbo/status/733032327966777344
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 May 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
the sport of conversation
― balls, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
that's dumb as fuck
― balls, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CixBBGUWYAAcPyJ.jpg
i have never seen this expression on a person in my life
― Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link
simmos' brand is v blazer + untucked shirt tho, way to nail it
― Clay, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link
horrible 'shop job on his face man alive
― Spottie, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0d/4e/9e/0d4e9ec4ca11fe2fc997313a0eed4623.jpg
― balls, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link
― Spottie, Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:53 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark
seriously what is going on
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
ya thats an insane texas chainsaw face
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
i would never attribute such shoddy work to noted ilx poster man alive
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link
can't see the white and-1s tho
― mookieproof, Thursday, 19 May 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link
there is content on the ringer dot com
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/tJuZQ93.png
lmao
The real Joe Buck — the one who drops f-bombs with abandon, is married to a former Broncos cheerleader, hangs with Jon Hamm, and just might be America’s most underappreciated sports broadcaster.
― nomar, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link
o shit fbombs tiiite bro tite
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link
man i've heard a lot of smart media ppl praise joe buck, enough so that when al michaels or whoever (maybe not al michaels, probably not al michaels) calls joe buck the best broadcaster right now i don't even blink. at the same time man fuck joe buck.
― balls, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link
joe buck is unbearable
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link
yeah there's a lot of reasons i stopped following baseball (slowly getting back into it, like if i saw jake arrieta in a restaurant i would recognize him now) but buck/mccarver combo (w/ the occasional dose of joe morgan) definitely played a role. also don't think finding out he's married to a former nfl cheerleader is gonna make me like him more, you might as well tell me how much he gets paid while you're at it.
― balls, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link
I kinda like him. He's nowhere near as bad as he was 7-8 years ago.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link
xp mccarver is gone, thankfully, although his replacements aint exactly fun city (aside from tom verducci occasionally saying smart things and reminding the dips he's surrounded by that analytics exist)
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link