Sinead O'Connor: C/D?

glad to hear she's safe. one of my favorite singers.

agreed. so wish I didn't have to click with dread every time this thread gets bumped.

I did give Lion and the Cobra a heavy listen after hearing about her disappearance. Like, okay, this might be the last time I get to hear this all without the thoughts of memorial and sorrow. But the next thing I did was google up DJP's Paul Mooney post.

Story is so tragic that even finding her has apparently not resulted in a happy ending (see: her most recent Facebook rant).

Top tip: don't see.

I hate to be all "won't someone think of the children" but any time I see Sinead news I think about how weird it must be to have her for a mother

the current situation seems weird. like, her 28 year old son is refusing to remove her 12 year old son from foster care and take him into custody or something. (the state won't allow her to take custody, it seems.) i would probably be mad at him too.

the thing with sinead is that she spoke up against child sexual abuse in the catholic church before anyone else in a similarly visible position did so. she took flak from basically everyone, who chalked it up to her being an "irrational" "crazy" woman.

i still think of her as an essentially principled, brave person who now seems to suffer from some kind of tragic mental illness which i don't know the details of.

never heard this before

For Sinead O'Connor, Love Willie - Don't Give Up - https://t.co/xbFXnQsH3i via @YouTube

— Willie Nelson (@WillieNelson) August 16, 2017

After that video she put up last week, this thread popping up made me think "oh no" - glad to be listening to that instead, her voice works perfectly.

^same, my heart in my mouth for a second.

New song, streaming exclusively on The Irish Sun.

https://heavenlyrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/trouble-of-the-world-2

There was a weird thread in my dreams last night where I kept reciting lyrics from I do not want what I haven't got, then a stretch where I listened to the album "in full" (in dream time). So I had to play it today. Definitely the album with the highest percentage of songs that make me burst into tears, though I can never predict which moments will do it.

amazing new interview

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/18/arts/music/sinead-oconnor-rememberings.html

also, very afraid to read old posts in any sinead related threads tbh

Later, when “Nothing Compares 2 U” made her a star, O’Connor said the song’s writer, Prince, terrorized her. She had pledged to reveal the details “when I’m an old lady and I write my book,” and now she has: She writes that Prince summoned her to his macabre Hollywood mansion, chastised her for swearing in interviews, harangued his butler to serve her soup though she repeatedly refused it, and sweetly suggested a pillow fight, only to thump her with something hard he’d slipped into his pillowcase. When she escaped on foot in the middle of the night, she writes, he stalked her with his car, leapt out and chased her around the highway.

i love her so much <3

harangued his butler to serve her soup though she repeatedly refused it

The mental image of this alone is incredible...

reminds me of the Stevie Nicks story about Prince visiting her while sick, fluffing pillows and stuff until she demanded cough medicine. "I'm not here to get you hooked on another drug!" he yelled and walked out.

yikes

suddenly doesn't seem as strange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIIAQME1Uhg

the photo of the pope being her Mother’s is a detail i never knew & it makes me love her more

also shaving her head when the exec tells her to dress more pretty is VERY much my energy and maybe my entire reason for her being my ride or die for 30+ years

yeah the key part of the prince stuff was this imo

Prince is the type of artist who is hailed as crazy-in-a-good-way, as in, “You’ve got to be crazy to be a musician,” O’Connor said, “but there’s a difference between being crazy and being a violent abuser of women.” Still, the fact that her best-known song was written by this person does not faze her at all. “As far as I’m concerned,” she said, “it’s my song.”

Sinead otm

she's just such a beautiful person imo sometimes it's just overwhelming

a queen.

I'm surprised that I haven't said so before itt, but I realised a while back that I'm going to get into A LOT of fights on the internet when she goes.

i will have your back

Sinead is in the comments section of that NYTimes article, chatting away. All her comments are NYT Picks so they are easy to find.

Her first two albums are among my most cherished, just bottomless in their subtleties.

otm

"IT IS NO MEASURE OF HEALTH TO BE WELL ADJUSTED TO A PROFOUNDLY SICK SOCIETY"

this is hard to argue with

frankly a far better take on mental health than just about all the "awareness" raising stuff that's everywhere these days has to offer

Her first two albums are among my most cherished, just bottomless in their subtleties.

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, May 19, 2021 10:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

otm

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, May 19, 2021 11:46 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

otm. And off the top of my head, I can't think of a better album/career opener than "Jackie."

I just recently dug up I'm Not Bossy (I'm the Boss), after ignoring or maybe not even being aware of it when it came out, and it's good! Not great, but a totally respectable aging-legend album with some legit bangers. Love her.

Agreed. How About I Be Me (and You Be You)? also offers pleasures.

I noted at the time that the multi-tracking of her vocals on I'm Not Bossy was an attempt to mitigate how raspier her vice has become.

lol her voice

I really like this reworking of an older tune (I like the original too):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxH16hEYuuc

this made me go back and listen to Universal Mother last night, which I'd purchased when it was released but otherwise remembered nothing about other than being disappointed at the time (though I did see her live after it came out, the only time I ever saw her). Not sure why, it's a pretty strong album. Not as good as the first two but what is?

"Fire in Babylon" though

jesus christ i had forgotten how devastating most of “i do not want what i haven’t got” is.

i’ve said this before now
you said i was childish and you’ll say it now

not really a fan of those last two albums, she sounds good on them but the songs themselves are just not up to snuff. I like the recent single though.

giving Faith and Courage a first listen ever today

"No Man's Woman" is a jam.

Too much Dave Stewart though

jesus christ i had forgotten how devastating most of “i do not want what i haven’t got” is.
I love, love, LOVE that album. I know it got a lot of attention when it was released - a multiplatinum, Grammy-winning seller that placed a strong second in Pazz & Jop - but it didn't feel like that many people were still listening to it a decade or two later. I think I was introduced to it through Greg Kot - he loved that album, comparing it in some respects to John Lennon's Plastic Ono Band. He never had a reason to write about it specifically, he'd just hold it up as a masterpiece whenever he was doing some kind of overview or look back at the '90s for the Tribune. I already knew "Nothing Compares 2 U" but that whole album is amazing - just raw, brave and exposed.

giving Faith and Courage a first listen ever today

"No Man's Woman" is a jam.

I'll have to find it again, but I wasn't happy with the first "best of" they made so I burned my own. The first two albums may be her best, but there's great stuff on pretty much everything up to and including Faith and Courage. (Like Alfred mentioned "No Man's Woman," and "Jealous" and "Daddy I'm Fine" are probably my other two favorites.)

To realize she's ending a major second album with TWO acoustic ballads and an a cappella wonder stroke, my god.