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niiiiice

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 13 May 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

i thought the same thing too, maybe my head's not in a #nice place.

pplains, Saturday, 14 May 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

What's with all the promoted porn tweets recently?

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Sunday, 15 May 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

Based on accounts you follow

yeah I have not seen any of those

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 01:16 (seven years ago) link

ha owned

6 god none the richer (m bison), Monday, 16 May 2016 02:14 (seven years ago) link

No, it's a thing. Keeps getting screenshotted and commented on by legit accounts.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 16 May 2016 04:52 (seven years ago) link

The semi-serious gist being that as long as Twitter doesn't employ any actual people to eyeball promoted content before it hits streams it will be fairly easy for porn companies, racists, etc to use just-about-sfw pictures and innocuous text to trick the algorithms, the cumulative effect being a much harder site to use at work.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Monday, 16 May 2016 05:50 (seven years ago) link

i keep getting this friends listicle as Promoted content... i love it

http://imgur.com/Z5Al2Tm

de l'asshole (flopson), Monday, 16 May 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Z5Al2Tm.png

de l'asshole (flopson), Monday, 16 May 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

lol I ate dinner with my parents at a place with order at counter, deliver to table service over the weekend and the little table placard was number 69

was so hard not to keep saying "nice" during the meal

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 00:36 (seven years ago) link

"hey thanks for dinner, it was really nice" hehehe

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 00:36 (seven years ago) link

did you all eat from each other's plates?

pplains, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link

nah, they had salad

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link

ahem

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 02:06 (seven years ago) link

promoted tweet:
Ron Miscavige Blog ‏@RMiscavigeblog May 7
#RonMiscavige ”memoir” is a lie that whitewashes his sordid history of #DomesticViolence

HAHA I WONDER WHO PAID TO HAVE THIS PROMOTED, WHAT A MYSTERY

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Demos_Org/status/733454694614470656

Bruenig getting slapped on the wrist for going full Bernie Bro on Joan Walsh reminds me of the kid with really strict parents whose mom drags her out of the birthday party like 'oh he's gonna get a spanking tonight, Deborah' cuz she heard him say 'fuck' when shit was getting rowdy in smashbros

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 20 May 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

what a weird beef. for me, kind of the opposite of an iran/iraq sitch: "pity they can't all win"

goole, Friday, 20 May 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

Walsh's bio quoting someone called her 'a great spokeslady for our race' is hilariously awful

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 20 May 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

encountered a personal (apparently) twitter account with 763,000 tweets since 2009

mookieproof, Friday, 20 May 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link

No

El Tomboto, Friday, 20 May 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

lame!

goole, Friday, 20 May 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link

"I think she deserves to reckon with that stuff" ehhhhhhhhhh I'll still read his stuff but

0 / 0 (lukas), Friday, 20 May 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

Damn, that's crazy... I'm sure he'll find a nice gig somewhere soon, very talented guy

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 20 May 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link

he's an idiot for letting this even happen tho... making nice blog posts about Nordic welfare states does way more for the struggle than being one of the dozens of ppl who tweet 'shut up bitch you supported Iraq' at chait. I get the tone policing argument in general but c'mon, dude is a white guy with a philosophy degree

de l'asshole (flopson), Saturday, 21 May 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

not really a fan of neera tanden but breunig was kind of all over the place -- his allegation that she supported welfare reform as part of the clinton administration isn't really even true. i'm sure he'll land somewhere better than whatever demos is

k3vin k., Saturday, 21 May 2016 00:42 (seven years ago) link

bruenig done worse w/ much less powerful ppl and seemed to love getting especially vitriolic w/ women in particular, borderline gamergate type behavior. apparently demos gave him the option of abstaining from harassment on twitter and he refused so they fired him. they're catching heat for firing someone who's about to be a father but i also question his judgment, like what a weird definition of integrity, shades of the gawker guys treating revenge porn like the pentagon papers. he definitely does very good, vital work and hopefully will get hired soon elsewhere, the internet in general but social media especially can amplify and foster some pretty awful behavior from ppl who otherwise would never act that way.

balls, Saturday, 21 May 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link

@jonathanchait
Following up from my hasty tweets last night, if Demos's account is true, firing @MattBruenig is clearly justifed

‏@HeerJeet
@jonathanchait I'm glad to see that you've changed your mind on political correctness.

mookieproof, Saturday, 21 May 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

www.vox.com/2016/5/21/11724298/bruenighazi-matt-bruenig-neera-tanden-demos

shame on me for linking to vox but that's a decent overview i think. would love to read something analyzing the effects (which can probably now be said to include long term effects, it's been a generation) of welfare reform, esp on a state by state basis and factoring in the effect on disability, but i can imagine that would be a difficult project and man talk about an issue that virtually nobody on the political spectrum is capable of being objective about.

balls, Saturday, 21 May 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

my sense is that everyone involved sucks (apart from elizabeth bruenig)

i can see why demos wouldn't want to be associated with a guy who ~somehow~ seems to be part of every twitter crisis and lives at defcon 2 wrt the insufficiently pure

sady doyle managed to achieve victimhood despite not actually being involved

twitter brought out the worst in everyone as usual

and none of it rivals anything the presumptive republican candidate tweets every single day

mookieproof, Sunday, 22 May 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

I really could have used $25,000 in donations around the time my daughter was born. Should've taken a part-time paid blogging job and then been a pompous dick in public.

Fuck this guy.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 22 May 2016 06:25 (seven years ago) link

before i even read that it was just a part-time job, ON TOP OF his lawyering job, i was kind of wondering like, can't you just look for another job? like starting the day after this all happened? or go on unemployment? before THAT?

but given that it was etc etc as above…

j., Sunday, 22 May 2016 06:52 (seven years ago) link

mookie otm

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 22 May 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

it's... weird seeing cool-kid media twitter pounce on sady doyle all day long

nazi pugs fuck off (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 22 May 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

If it weren't for the GoFundMe nonsense I would be all "mookie otm" too but maybe I should take that to the irrationally angry thread. JFC I slept on it and still want to go find the guy and tell him he's going to be a crappy dad

El Tomboto, Sunday, 22 May 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link

elizabeth bruenig seems smart and cool so i trust that this dude is irl a smart and cool dude that turns into a complete ass online (it happens, trust me i know) but him making a stand irl and deciding he'd rather be fired from this job he does genuinely good work at and that apparently accounts for 30% of his income on the eve of having a kid because his conscience wouldn't allow him to take a breather from his weird mmorpg campaign against 'geriatric' liberals (who are almost always either women or poc though i'm sure that's a coincidence) does make me wonder. this has kinda made a lot of weird twitter unbearable for me also, esp as they're the ones that really go in hard and are willing to go a few steps further than bruenig (threatening to twist someone's tits off is such a weird mix of psychopathy, juvenilia, and misogyny)(though tbf the only one of these campaigns it looks like bruenig actually organized was the year and half harrassment campagin against sarah jeong, apparently for criticizing jacobin) and they're also usually desperate freelancer types that refer to hunter thompson (often) as 'the good doctor', much much prefer and respect the ones that have some shitty job in a cubicle or at dominos or whatever.

balls, Sunday, 22 May 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

I wouldn't underestimate how much of the willingness to donate was driven by an affection for Elizabeth.

Leftist Twitter and weird Twitter need to divorce ASAP. Pretty much any time these arguments get heated there's a pile-on of aspiring irony boys which objectively doesn't look much different to harassment. At the same time, that seems to be mirrored by a lot of unpleasantness from the other side - other writers have been threatened with campaigns to get them fired and a couple of good writers, like E. Bruenig and Roqayah Chamseddine, have either been harassed off Twitter or become so sick of the toxicity they've quit. It just makes everyone look ridiculous.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Sunday, 22 May 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

weird mmorpg campaign against 'geriatric' liberals

can we throw a bunch of threads on to a board with this title?

μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 22 May 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

the weird twitter / alt-left twitter line is really blurry at best and the problem is "weird" performative behavior is really just a hop and a slip-up away from ugly trolling.
like comedians who find themselves all of a sudden losing audiences (and bookings) because they didn't set up their use of homophobic and racist slurs as well as Louis C.K.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 22 May 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

lol otoh kattwillferrell got hacked by isis so it could be worse

balls, Sunday, 22 May 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link

idk all the details, but we've kind of reached the point where criticizing person x's views and "organizing a harassment campaign" against person x can look pretty similar from person x's point of view. there's always pool of angry leftists/trump supporters/russian troll army just looking for a target, so anything that directs attention to a person can result in a tidal wave of shit, especially on twitter.

also this stuff reminds me of this from a month ago:
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/04/how-social-autopsy-fell-for-gamergate-trutherism.html. basically no one knows which way is up online.

circles, Monday, 23 May 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link

@jonathanchait
Following up from my hasty tweets last night, if Demos's account is true, firing @MattBruenig is clearly justifed

‏@HeerJeet
@jonathanchait I'm glad to see that you've changed your mind on political correctness.

― mookieproof, Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol twitter is inherantly petty, demos thinks is can win against this, its irresistible, look what it does even to the boringest man heer jeet

lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2016 02:40 (seven years ago) link

him making a stand irl and deciding he'd rather be fired from this job he does genuinely good work at and that apparently accounts for 30% of his income on the eve of having a kid because his conscience wouldn't allow him to take a breather from his weird mmorpg campaign against 'geriatric' liberals

― balls, Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:36 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean this guy willing to walk away from actual money so he can keep making mean tweets no one but other crazed high volume media consumers are even aware of

lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link

the tweet life

lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2016 02:43 (seven years ago) link

instead of having social media codes of conduct publications shd just write disclaimers saying that twitter drives writers insane its a known condition and theres nothing you can do abt it

lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link

lol I had no idea bruenig was a lawyer. he always kinda seemed like the most erudite and polite of the whole crew, writing pedantic blog posts about 'pragmatic sovereign wealth fund socialism'. he was pretty nice to Jamel's bound when everyone was hanging up on him last week. it's the army of fyad dudes that show up anytime they smell blood that kind of turn the corner into harassment... there can be some lols to be had but the worst is when they think they're accomplishing something like

https://twitter.com/amberaleefrost/status/718640659113119745

like... yea i don't care... the tweets are bad now...

btw I hate he sneering reproach with which sanders supporters use the word "liberals". you gotta be a full commie or right wing to use liberals as a pejorative imo not just someone who wants single payer. I like shitlibs though

de l'asshole (flopson), Monday, 23 May 2016 03:16 (seven years ago) link

Jamel's bound = Jamelle Bouie lol

de l'asshole (flopson), Monday, 23 May 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link

stop telling americans what they can and can't use as pejoratives, flopson!

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 23 May 2016 03:36 (seven years ago) link


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