Rolling SERIOUS GRAPHIC LITERATURE Thread for Comics in 2016

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that sucks.

ulysses, Friday, 13 May 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

That's terrible. Palliative usually = the prognosis is terminal, iirc.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 13 May 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

aw man. those animated shows were so good. :(

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 May 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

I hadn't put his name together with his work, but I grew up on Batman: TAS, and his animation work holds up so well. Very, very sad.

one way street, Friday, 13 May 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

That's awful. He's such great artist with a clear vision and imaginative sense of design, as retro as it may be. DC New Frontier and those Donald Westlake adaptations were a joy to read.

Tuomas, Friday, 13 May 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

Very sad, really liked his work

Nhex, Saturday, 14 May 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link

Rest in peace, Darwyn

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 14 May 2016 04:57 (seven years ago) link

??

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 14 May 2016 05:16 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, the announcement of palliative care was very much a last minute thing. RIP

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Saturday, 14 May 2016 09:00 (seven years ago) link

Or not? Some real confusion.

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Saturday, 14 May 2016 10:12 (seven years ago) link

He's still alive AFAICT.

Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Saturday, 14 May 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link

Now confirmed to have passed on by Mike Allred (although the confusion is not helped by him deleting the confirmation by Darwyn's wife Marsha - she apparently wants time to come to terms with it before it's announced.)

suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Saturday, 14 May 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

Sad news. Cooke's work is wonderful.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

I went to one of Darwyn's lectures at TCAF about a decade ago, he seemed like a swell guy, very supportive of other artists, whether they were DC or D&Q, he wasn't snobby. He spoke about being relieved to get away from superhero stuff, that he'd been preparing something autobiographical - I wonder what happened with that?

I also remember his storytelling advice: "There's no scene that couldn't be improved by being set in an abandoned fairground" - legit the best writing advice I've ever heard.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 15 May 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

He spoke about being relieved to get away from superhero stuff, that he'd been preparing something autobiographical - I wonder what happened with that?

He was seduced back with The Spirit offer and couldn't resist, sadly.

glandular lansbury (sic), Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

been busy buying and reading a bunch of stuff written by Ales Kot

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

I often forget how many years I spent reading Beano, Dandy, Beezer and Topper when I was little. I might be remembering wrong but it seems like so many of the plots were about getting food. Not sure I was ever an actual fan of many of the stories apart from maybe a few characters like Korky The Cat but I did read hundreds of them.
I always fucking hated Dennis The Menace, why did anyone like that stupid looking asshole? I wanted the other characters to murder him.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link

Dairy Queen had Dennis the Menace characters on their cups for a number of years so I have a tolerance

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 00:46 (seven years ago) link

Different Dennis. Those Brits have zero respect for US IP, I tells ya.

Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link

IIRC the two Dennises were created independently of each other, they both debuted in the same year?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 04:19 (seven years ago) link

Yes, I keed, I keed. And not just the same year but the same week.

Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

Is good, on Darwyn Cooke:

http://thewalrus.ca/capes-and-tights/

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 23 May 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

I guess any of the special free comics from free comic book day will all be gone? I wanted that Mignola/Corben short so I guess I'll have to wait til it's collected into a book?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 11:08 (seven years ago) link

not sure if anyone here works in your local comic shop

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link

But generally in comic shops I'm guessing they give them all away pretty quickly

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link

okay

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:36 (seven years ago) link

If it's not some ridiculously limited edition thing, you should be able to find it for purchase online pretty easily and at a reasonable price.

Corn Elephant, Jr. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:37 (seven years ago) link

I've come to accept that my expectation of free FCBD comics shouldn't extend past the actual date of FCBD.

Corn Elephant, Jr. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 12:38 (seven years ago) link

Looks like Comixology/Amazon now has an unlimited subscription plan thing, with a handful of publishers contributing content.

The browsing is kind of half-assed on the web, which is true of most of the unlimited services (I've used Marvel Unlimited and some other service, maybe Scribd, for reading Valiant titles). It looks like some titles from Image/IDW/Valiant/Dark Horse/Fantagraphics (!)/Boom! Studios are on there now.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

among other publishers, which I failed to notice on the first screen

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

on another note, going back to the conversation about the state of comic book retailers...

I had some errands to run near a comic/game store I don't usually frequent. Their comics section isn't bad these days! I have no idea why, but they decided to run with the business decision of stocking as many collections and graphic novels as possible, which is great. Unfortunately, when I got to the cash register, a gamer dude was breathlessly pontificating at the cashier about the balance of some game or another pending some new expansion. HE SMELLED SO BAD. Like, I usually brush off the stereotype of gamers as really awkward dudes who smell bad but GOOD GOD MAN

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

Probably v slow on the uptake here, but recently discovered the great comics of Kate Beaton, many of which are free to read here:

http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

i am off to look into that comixology subscription, would love a better option than torrenting for casual reading

ulysses, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

I've read many entertaining anecdotes about bad comic shop experiences. Often about shop workers insulting customers.

Here's a favourite I remember

Customer: Do you have any Creepy issues from Warren?
Comic Store Guy: Creepy is from Dark Horse, idiot!

Any of you guys have any memorably bad experiences?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

While the range of titles is deep, however, the amount you can read from each title is relatively thin. Many comics are limited to just the first volume. Anything beyond that, well, you can pick up the collections from Comixology.

Apparently the service plans to cycle through the content being offered, much like Netflix does, with new and old series and issues being added but with no specific window announced yet.

this is a pass until they figure out how to make this work.

ulysses, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

Jesus christ, the idea of a digital comic service that's run like Netflix makes me want to die. Read issues 1-5, 7, 15, and 32 this month and then maybe two months from now they'll swap those out with like half the issues that were missing.

Wet Food (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link

lol that's how i read elf quest as a kid - i went to the library and took out whichever of those oversized hard covers they had available. iirc i read the last volume first and had no idea who any of the characters were.

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

for $6 a month you can read the first twenty pages and then random chapters in all our novels! how can you lose!

ulysses, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

honestly that's how pretty much all of the subscription ones are run right now afaik, with Marvel being the one that seems to delete few while continually adding more

I would love, and probably pay extra for, a service that was just "here's every available comic we're able to offer from this publisher" for a premium price, with the acknowledgement that people are going to subscribe for a couple months to binge everything from several series. But that doesn't keep people hanging on to their subscriptions. It looks like their compromise is a scattering of content for $6 per month. Which is a nice deal, but it's obviously meant as a taster to get you to buy more titles.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

Marvel Unlimited seems to do pretty well with keeping the titles they have; never seen them remove much?

ulysses, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

they usually only do it when they really screwed up their initial upload

like the ones where the exposition dialog boxes were in a different font and their digital comic creation process resulted in them just being ??? ????? ???

I have still seen a couple of those panels, though

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah, i remember that being particularly bad with the avengers

ulysses, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

I subscribed to Unlimited for about 18 months - it's terrific but the lo-res scan quality started to bug me, so I quit and I've mostly just been buying off the main app now, where everything's super high quality and (apologies) I genuinely enjoy reading via the panel-to-panel thing.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 23:52 (seven years ago) link

MU is a fantastic value, had to drop it to cut stupid expenses. Might be best to subscribe once a year or something and catch up in a month on everything you missed.

Used it on desktop so I didn't really have the low-res scan problem, is that a mobile issue?

Nhex, Thursday, 26 May 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

just read the 12 issue Omega Men series by Tom King; that's some great comics! I feel like it came up in the DC thread but highly recommended!

ulysses, Friday, 27 May 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

Tom King almost single-handedly keeping me reading the big two.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 May 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah; he's the vision guy too right? Both of those as good as any hero books I've read in a decade.
Anybody wanna rep Grayson?

ulysses, Friday, 27 May 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

not a clue. Concept sounded cheesy.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 May 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link


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