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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jun/21/mia-says-she-wont-play-afropunk-festival-black-lives-matter-comments

Leave MIA the f–ck alone. You guys are idiots and have COMPLETELY missed the point of what she’s trying to tell you. THIS IS A BLACK PERSON. Sri Lankans/Indians are BLACK. U guys keep for getting that black is not something we share as an ethnicity it’s something we share as a GLOBAL STRUGGLE … the LIBERAL MEDIA has its d–ck so far down you sheeples throats that you can’t even understand what she’s saying. SHES TELLING YOU THAT HER PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING JUST AS OURS ARE. LEAVE MAYA THE F–CK ALONE AND LET HER DO HER PERFORMANCE. FOR F–CKS SAKE.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

idk why people expect mature, non-inflammatory political opinions from m.i.a. or azealia banks for that matter. they're not running for president and nothing they say is as bad as what comes from one of the bros who is.

Treeship, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link

Also in this instance banks mostly otm. Maybe it was ill advised for MIA to compare disparate struggles or whatever but "boycotting" her seems a bit much. Not everyone has the exact same perspective all the time.

Treeship, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link

wrong thread but i think MIA acquitted herself well -
“A#blacklivesmatter B#Muslimlivesmatter. I’m not Muslim . My criticism wasn’t about Beyoncé. It’s how u can say A not B right now in 2016....My question was,on American platforms what do they allow you to stand up for in 2016. This has been the number 1 question for me.”

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

she initially suggested that the black lives matter movement is making some *yawn* easy, noncontroversial, corporate- and government-sponsored argument. as opposed to the (supposedly) more heroically marginal causes she champions. which seems pretty fucking shitty to me, and characteristically self-important besides.

yes, we americans are myopically obsessed with local issues, often ignoring or failing to comprehend anything beyond our own borders. but the black lives matter movement doesn't deserve to be smugly derided as an example of that.

oculus lump (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

I agree. And yet this is a person who has flirted with imagery associated with groups that perpetrate suicide bombings. She is just on her own thing. The poltical dimensions of her work demand attention but they have never been the kind of thing westerners were supposed to embrace comfortably. They were never even intended as fully coherent.

Treeship, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

Maybe this is a dumb point. I am just not sure what the benefit is of being offended by known political eccentrics. MIA's perspective is marginal and idiosyncratic. She doesn't seem to have "followers"; she doesn't present a threat to BLM. Boycotting her seems like a weird tactic

Treeship, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

it does seem silly to get bent out of shape over MIA saying some new weird thing

oculus lump (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link

"she initially suggested that the black lives matter movement is making some *yawn* easy, noncontroversial, corporate- and government-sponsored argument. as opposed to the (supposedly) more heroically marginal causes she champions. which seems pretty fucking shitty to me, and characteristically self-important besides."

her choice of words wasnt great. but her point is simply that blacklivesmatter is more accepted in the media, or afforded more coverage at least, than other human/civil rights causes/movements, that there will be more support in liberal outlets for BLM than the causes she is interested in. not sure how that is really so controversial.

america has the biggest media leverage/presence in the world. so it follows that even causes that appear to challenge american policing will also get more coverage. same way most people around the world are far more informed about black civil rights battles and history than other similar struggles in other countries. or to bring it back to music, same way we all know about PE and NWA, but not political music from elsewhere (also much to do with the language, and it being in the west, etc).

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 09:45 (seven years ago) link

like, for all the racism, exploitation, uneven balance of power, nasty history, etc, black american artists are pretty much the richest, most famous, etc etc, of any non white artists in the world. kendrick and beyonce are just the latest in that long line. so i can see why MIA might, if not call on them to lend their support, but just to point out that they DO have a power that non white artists from elsewhere generally do not. its messy stuff, for sure, but not totally baseless.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link

agree with all that, but "choice of words" isn't a trivial matter

oculus lump (contenderizer), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 11:35 (seven years ago) link

‘It’s interesting that in America the problem you’re allowed to talk about is Black Lives Matter. It’s not a new thing to me — it’s what Lauryn Hill was saying in the 1990s, or Public Enemy in the 1980s. Is Beyoncé or Kendrick Lamar going to say Muslim Lives Matter? Or Syrian Lives Matter? Or this kid in Pakistan matters? That’s a more interesting question. And you cannot ask it on a song that’s on Apple, you cannot ask it onan American TV programme, you cannot create that tag on Twitter, Michelle Obama is not going to hump you back.’

re-reading it, im not sure that her choice of words is all that problematic. its just not very subtle (which is MIA all over, she cant help herself)

i think people just didnt like what she said as it suggests a certain, um, 'black privilege' (sorry, MIA is influencing my own phrasing lol) w/r/t media presence/coverage/support etc, which obv, if you are campaigning on the side of BLM, might not sit well with trying to drive home the issue that black people are powerless.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link

just to be clear, i am not saying that black american people in general are all living the high life, this is about political campaigns, messages, and awareness.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 11:44 (seven years ago) link

yeah, it's naive & self-serving "political" grandstanding

oculus lump (contenderizer), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link

on her part?

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 11:52 (seven years ago) link

self serving political grandstanding is the name of the game when it comes to musicians and politics. a good dash of narcissism and myopia doesnt hurt either. too much reason and you lose emotional impact. also, artists are sensitive about their shit (to quote ms badu) and prefer to think subjectively rather than intellectually, so trying to introduce objectivity doesnt always go down too well.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:00 (seven years ago) link

yes, on her part. like i said, she's throwing shade at blm in order to elevate herself & the causes she cares about, which strikes me as a shitty move. there are already more than enough people out there chanting "all lives matter".

oculus lump (contenderizer), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:22 (seven years ago) link

yeah, that was def petty and unnecessary. and surprising from someone as conspiratorial about controls of power as her. directing her ire at the wrong target.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:33 (seven years ago) link

although, even allowing for MIA as a kind of political-cause-hipster, she doesnt actually say BLM has no point, or no cause. shes not throwing shade *AT* BLM. shes really throwing shade at the media.

ok im going to stop talking about this now.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link

I'm going to try to sneak the "clean" version of "212" into Friday's school assembly. It seems fine--a little, um, choppy--but I've got to give it an extra-close listen in the car tomorrow morning.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link

m.i.a.'s attempt to criticise americans' ignorance of and disinterest in non-american issues had a fair point somewhere in it but just came out a disaster. like, you can make that point without criticising #blacklivesmatter surely.

(on a vaguely related note this is very much why i've always disliked the "POC" umbrella. so unhelpful to conflate different marginalisations that are not on the same scale or of the same nature and do not have the same history.)

the hallouminati (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 June 2016 10:14 (seven years ago) link

it prob lent to some sense of solidarity once. but now, more people/groups are less interested in wider solidarity efforts, than they are in their own immediate group. everyones a little narcissist. except azaelia obv. she wants everyone to join forces and work together. just not zayn malik.

"THIS IS A BLACK PERSON. Sri Lankans/Indians are BLACK. U guys keep for getting that black is not something we share as an ethnicity it’s something we share as a GLOBAL STRUGGLE … the LIBERAL MEDIA has its d–ck so far down you sheeples throats that you can’t even understand what she’s saying. SHES TELLING YOU THAT HER PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING JUST AS OURS ARE. LEAVE MAYA THE F–CK ALONE AND LET HER DO HER PERFORMANCE. FOR F–CKS SAKE."

what a woman.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 23 June 2016 10:30 (seven years ago) link

AND YES I KNOW I POSTED THAT ALREADY

StillAdvance, Thursday, 23 June 2016 10:30 (seven years ago) link

Banks v important to ilx imo should be a valuable asset going fwd

― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Friday, 13 May 2016 03:54 (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rap game lee rigby (nakhchivan), Thursday, 23 June 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Azealia Banks reports Russell Crowe to the police after claiming he called her a 'n****r' and 'choked' her during a party in his hotel room

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3845566/Azealia-Banks-reports-Russell-Crowe-police-alleged-fight-hotel-room.html#ixzz4NTD6YSAn

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

yeahhhh.... at this point it just bums me out

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

She makes it hard to even try to listen at her music when she acts like a human dumpster fire at any chance she gets. She should get a slander lawsuit for this bullshit.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

Is she still supporting Trump?

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

Did not know she was a Trump supporter hahaha she's not even trying anymore.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

Last I heard she took back her endorsement

carly reagan jepsen (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

"instead I alienated loads of my fans and followers"

youdontsay

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

iirc she endorsed trump because he was "evil."

Treeship, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah, after I saw that she was there because RZA took her along, I was counting down the seconds until he dropped her like a hot potato

I wish there was video of Russell Crowe quietly picking her up and depositing her in the hallway after she started yelling shit

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

Isn't RZA kind of wack too?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

I think he's done enough things and collaborated with enough people that I'm willing to go out on a limb and guess that he doesn't threaten to cut people he's just met

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

Anyhow, this is obviously a publicity stunt tantrum by Banks. I get it... she's a b-list celebrity in an a-list celebrity party and she knows that pulling a tantrum in there will get her press and sadly it worked. But there are limits... accusing someone of being a racist and a rapist to get attention is super douchey and it should even get you prison time. Shit is not funny.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah RZA seems ok... a bit crazy but civilized... he brought Azealia to the party tho. If I were Crowe I would seriously consider hanging out with RZA again by association.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

imo she has genuine issues and has 86'ed her music career by acting erratic

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

what? it's not like RZA brought her as a best friend, he was working with her professionally and that link was severed almost immediately after this happened!

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

Like if I bring someone to your place, they cause a problem, and in response I cut all ties with them, you're going to cut me off for making a logical choice?

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link

and wtf is "crazy but civilized" because that sounds like some weird coded racism!

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link

It's a shame because she has some brilliant music but her constant beefing on social networks where she's legit racist and homophobic makes me hate her. If she's actually pathologically crazy and not just an attention whore I hope she gets some help and gets back to work. If she continues down this route she'll lose whatever fans she has left.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

wtf at this RZA slander

Spottie, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

and wtf is "crazy but civilized" because that sounds like some weird coded racism!

― mh 😏, jueves 20 de octubre de 2016 21:35 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whoa wait what? How is that comment racist? I meant like he's crazy but not pathologically crazy, a crazy person that can socialize. The sort of crazy you invite to a party at your house without fear it will break a glass and call you a rapist.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

why are u calling him crazy at all

Spottie, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah I don't get it, he's definitely very enigmatic and creative but he always comes off really low-key

mh 😏, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link


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