pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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except for when it employs brad or the other ilx people who sometimes write for it *crosses self*

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

Fuck Complex too, now that you mention.

how's life, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

ilx treats its opinion like a fucking holy book sometimes

this is such trash dude

marcos, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

verily I cast thee out

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

like you are posting in a thread called "pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series)" created almost a decade ago xp

marcos, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

imago thinking fantano has great taste is definitely ... well its not surprising, thats for sure

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link

this thread is the fond mockery of the obsessed and the besotted

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link

"passionate millennial males"

https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/top/?sort=top&t=month

Evan, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

almost a decade ago xp

also i was wrong, more than a decade! like 15 years ago!

marcos, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

on our year-end polls, each album and track's pazz and jop placement is announced...and then its pitchfork placement too. no other publication receives this privilege. of course there are countless other examples of pitchfork's centrality to the discourse

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

idk aren't there a lot of p4k staffers past & present who post here

marcos, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

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dat login (wins), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

imago thinking fantano has great taste is definitely ... well its not surprising, thats for sure

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, May 4, 2016 8:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

known for your critical rigour, you have extrapolated 'great' from 'often likes good stuff' and are surely bound to strike again

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

this is an "ignore LJ" moment folks

de l'asshole (flopson), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

too true, apparently he only got a 7.6

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:33 (eight years ago) link

lol that should have been 5.1

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link

ilx

bamcquern, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

LOLJ

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link


I would bet there is a better good-review-to-purchased-album ratio from a Needle Drop than Best New Music at this point

literally no-one in the biz would take a needle drop absolute rave over a pitchfork 8.0

I don't think festival bookers or whoever have picked up on it yet

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 5 May 2016 02:10 (eight years ago) link

Simply cannot believe people in THE BIZ are out of touch! Someone brew some coffee and call Lefsetz, we're gonna have an all-nighter!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 5 May 2016 02:12 (eight years ago) link

Ian Cohen's ANOHNI tweets

I wish blocking somebody extended to hearing about them on Facebook, group chat, irl conversation, not to mention their livelihood

Whatever room that man is in he is the worst man in it

fgti, Thursday, 5 May 2016 07:35 (eight years ago) link

he contrasted it with an emo album about the awesome overwhelming organizational powers of hetero love which is unfortunate

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 May 2016 11:13 (eight years ago) link

(meaning the hotelier's goodness)

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 May 2016 11:17 (eight years ago) link

he awesome overwhelming organizational powers of hetero love

how is that any different from most emo

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 May 2016 12:03 (eight years ago) link

i would totally buy an album about the overwhelming organizational powers of hotelier love.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 May 2016 12:58 (eight years ago) link

how is that any different from most emo

most emo is extremely bitter about the failures of straight love!

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:17 (eight years ago) link

That's also really interesting to see what looks like a very aggressive rebrand of Pitchfork to include more R&B and Datpiff rap mixtapes instead of like reviewing 300 Burger Records clones and letting Grayson and Marc talk about Hair Police or w/e. All of which means more POC, more women, more LGBT — all unquestionably awesome and great from a purely ideological and philosophical standpoint that I'm sure 100% of ILX (including myself) would laud.

I wish Pitchfork wrote about Hair Police.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link

how is that any different from most emo

most emo is extremely bitter about the failures of straight love!

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson),

cynic = failed romantic, etc

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link

straight love drives like THIS. and gay love drives like THIS. is what i think when i see "straight love". i've watched too many simpsons.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link

lol

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link

One makes babies and the other makes 9/11

fgti, Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

I wish Pitchfork wrote about Hair Police.

ejemplo (crüt), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link

they come to me in my hair

contenderizer, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link

why are all the references to Scientist in the past tense, dude is still alive:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21810-junjo-presents-wins-the-world-cup/

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:09 (eight years ago) link

well I guess it's one reference "was a master of the form". He's still a master of the form!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

I feel like what's happening to P4K now is roughly analogous to the way Melody Maker went down. Less outsidery stuff, short form winning out over long form, a lot of writers who'd been there for a while suddenly disappearing or marginalized, ham-fisted attempts to court audiences outside their regular demo. I see why it's being done of course, it's just not all that interesting to me.

Position Position, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:13 (eight years ago) link

short form winning out over long form

curious narrative derived from a site that started out publishing 600-ish word reviews and still publishes 600-ish word reviews. like, i know i'm a contributor but i'm not exactly here to defend the site, i just don't see this (or see it in a way that isn't also echoed in 100 percent of the rest of the internet)

a lot of writers who'd been there for a while suddenly disappearing or marginalized

several contributors followed jess hopp to mtv news

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link

Well, if you open up the site the first thing you see at the top of the page are three short form news stories. There are less album reviews being published, or they've been bumped to the Saturday graveyard. The Out Door is gone. The Pitch and track reviews are somehow not very easy to find. There are boxes all over the homepage full of short news stories. That's clearly the emphasis now.

Position Position, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link

junjo lawes was the king of 1982! love him soooooo much.

my friend tippa does gigs with scientist. very alive and very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvKX64DHmqI

scott seward, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

ALSO TIPPA'S NEW ALBUM ON STONES THROW IS REALLY GOOD PITCHFORK YOU SHOULD REVIEW IT. pitchfork lurks here, right? here's tippa giving me my copy.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13001289_10154700574167137_1744310443394894160_n.jpg?oh=911b102d6928f91564fdacb9227d4a97&oe=57A2F355

scott seward, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

Simply cannot believe people in THE BIZ are out of touch! Someone brew some coffee and call Lefsetz, we're gonna have an all-nighter!

lol these clueless squares actually know a fuckload more about actually making money than, say, yrself (or me, mind)

needledrop review = hey cool! somebody might maybe come to a show and buy merch!
pitchfork review = hey cool! money!

I feel like what's happening to P4K now is roughly analogous to the way Melody Maker went down. Less outsidery stuff, short form winning out over long form, a lot of writers who'd been there for a while suddenly disappearing or marginalized, ham-fisted attempts to court audiences outside their regular demo. I see why it's being done of course, it's just not all that interesting to me.

― Position Position, Thursday, May 5, 2016 12:13 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk if 2012 counts as "been there for a while" (and I still write for them, plan to keep writing for them) but I would say the fluctuation, movement and disappearance of writers is more due to a) larger media trends and b) events in writers' personal lives.

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 5 May 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link

Quitting writing is like planting a tree, the best time to do it was 10 years ago, the second best time is now

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 May 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link

^^^ wisdom of silenus

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 5 May 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link

Quitting writing is like planting a tree, the best time to do it was 10 years ago, the second best time is now

so very much about (music) writing 2k16 irritates me but none of it irritates me as much as this jaded (ex-)writer shtick (or worse some smug fuck who never made it their career) of telling writers they're stupid for trying to do it

cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 May 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

not so much stupid as cursed

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 5 May 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link

as we know from cable news talk shows, embittered former nobodies can sometimes make a living

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 May 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

that is also an irritating insinuation

xp

cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 May 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link


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