notice only dudes are into cb
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah cb is in no way as good a cartoonist (or as purely ambitious) as sim. he also seems to still have at least one foot in consensus reality. sim spending his (creative) life in relative isolation and feeling increasingly embattled after the whole post-issue-186 blow-up seems to have exacerbated his crack-up considerably.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link
did you miss Abbott posting in this thread xp
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link
nah my wife likes Chester Brown (not as much as Julia Wertz tho)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link
his comics are becoming agitprop for a series of increasingly specific and potentially alienating beliefs.
I'm infinitely more sympathetic to the idea of decriminalised prostitution that basically anything Sim has been espousing for the past two decades.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link
i'd take brown's views on religion over sim's, that's for sure
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link
yeah i'm not necessarily against brown's views on prostitution (though i think he has the typical libertarian's simplicity regarding the actual nuts-and-bolts reality thereof), but whatever you can say about sim's views (trust me: i'd disavow everything he stands for after 1993 or so), i can't deny his batshit commitment to craft in putting them on the page, where "paying for it" had all the visual appeal of a particularly skillful chick tract.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link
particularly skillful chick tract
lol I liked it but can't really argue with this characterization
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link
Can we somehow compel Chet legally to do a collection of the fucking yummy fur bible stories? It'd be like his best book.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link
^^^ when i heard about the new book i was hoping it was this.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link
I assume that will never happen. are there rights issues?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
it seems bizarre that's the only work of his (with the exception of "underwater") that's still uncollected. i mean he even included his (extreme) juvenalia in "the little man."
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
lol Underwater. that seemed like such a bad idea
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link
He only got partway through the second gospel, so there is no book to collect. (Since part of the point in doing them was to contrast the different portrayals of Jesus in each, he wouldn't want to give the wrong impression by only reprinting the bits that got done, and it was over two decades ago, so he's proooobably moved on by now)
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 21 April 2016 01:07 (eight years ago) link
Sex workers weigh in on problems of representation in the new book: http://titsandsass.com/mary-wept-at-the-feet-of-jesus-2016/
― one way street, Saturday, 30 April 2016 02:03 (eight years ago) link
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, April 20, 2016 12:44 PM (1 week ago)it ~~not a sausage partier and CB is my main man of cartooning tho yeah he is and always has been a total weirdo
i rewatched SHORTBUS recently and wikipedia'ed it ~~ sook-yon lee is the main character (repressed sex therapist) and that was a mind blower!!she gets depicted like an everyday friend/ex in 'the little man' and this demure nothing in 'paying for it'ches talks about her unhappiness with her portrayal in TLM in its footnotes (how did this guy start drowning in his own footnotes??)well she seems like her own personand it made me feel weird to realize that!!tho clearly this guy is in his own world and always has beenalways digging deep in the gospels and a big rep of the conspiracy that shakespeare was someone else
like what I <3 about ches is 1. above all his acumen at cartooning and its form; he is such an excellent draw-erand2. that he is totally the guy who gets THEORIES from public library RABBIT HOLES but is frank about the how and why of it
― no one in particular (Abbott), Saturday, 30 April 2016 02:42 (eight years ago) link
I’d prefer it if that work wasn’t reprinted.
Creating those Yummy-Fur/Underwater adaptations was part of my process of learning about the gospels and coming to understand them on a deeper level. (Suat would probably disagree that my understanding is deeper.) While I had some knowledge of the gospels when I began adapting them, that knowledge was pretty shallow. I feel that I’d do a much better job now. Also, the artwork in most of my version of Mark is poor. I did a better job in drawing Matthew.
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― glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link
when the retrospective thoughts of artists, especially in light of their evolving work, deprive us of their older work :(
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 03:09 (seven years ago) link
let's cut a deal, Chester, I'll buy your new shit if you reprint some of the old ones
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 03:10 (seven years ago) link
i rewatched SHORTBUS recently and wikipedia'ed it ~~ sook-yon lee is the main character (repressed sex therapist) and that was a mind blower!!
I only found out about this myself recently (altho I recall being aware of Shortbus when it came out), was totally surprised. is that film actually worth seeing?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link
yeah. it's not very good, though.
― (⌒_⌒)ノ (contenderizer), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link
this new one is good and a fast read (probs wouldve been better as a mini comic tbh) and the notes get sleep-inducing. also no matter how deep into the theory he tries to go, there is no way to not see this as a dude trying to justify his love of hookers by way of his love of god.
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link
is he no longer in love with just the one hooker
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link
haha oh shit... also the drawing in the new one is beautiful (of course)
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
if chester brown's work didn't exist, we would need a morally conflicted sex robot to invent it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link