OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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Vinyl is back. And with the best year in terms of sales since 1988, it doesn’t seem like vinyl is going anywhere.

It's true. Astonishing numbers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgJuCq5XEAA3hoG.jpg

punnerist spoon here (onimo), Saturday, 16 April 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link

I didn't know vinyl sales were on the decline a good three-to-four years before CDs came out in 1984. What were people buying in the early 80s? Cassettes?

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 17 April 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link

Yes. The Walkman changed everything.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 17 April 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link

I was. And like lots of people I didn't start buying CDs until well after 1984 -- 1992, maybe?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 April 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link

They didn't fit in the Walkman, was the thing.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 April 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

I switched in '92 as well. Went from walkman to discman.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 17 April 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link

What is the source of that graphic above?

Wimmels, Sunday, 17 April 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link

Home taping is killing the music industry.

campreverb, Monday, 18 April 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link

We got a CD player in... 1985? 1986? I know I did the Columbia House thing in 1987 to jumpstart my collection and taped them to play in my Walkman (one perk of my dad working for 3M was piles and piles and piles of cheap blank cassettes basically any time I wanted them)

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 18 April 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link

never would have guessed that 45 single sales outstripped LPs consistently like that

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 18 April 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

i think that graph was first published on digitalmusicnews.com, which claims the figures are from the riaa

dyl, Monday, 18 April 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

taped them to play in my Walkman

Me, too. That was the first time I started being interested in sound quality as a thing, was when I noticed how much better tapes recorded from CDs sounded than tapes recorded from vinyl.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 18 April 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Maybe I'm being picky. because it's not the content that's bad here, but the writing is...ugh.

http://flavorwire.com/571669/grimes-reveals-that-numerous-male-producers-have-demanded-sex-from-her?utm_campaign=FlavorwireSocial&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 18 April 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

That second paragraph is a killer.

"So it’s no surprise that Grimes, who, as a completely autonomous artist — Claire Boucher writes, records, produces, mixes, and masters everything that she attaches the “Grimes” label to — has routinely criticized both the music industry and the media at large for misrepresenting her as simply a muse, a singer that attaches her voice to other people’s (note: male’s) productions, would eventually have to speak on the subject."

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 18 April 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

or is it just me? Maybe I'm having a morning.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 18 April 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link

"So apparently Dr. Luke isn’t the only male producer in the industry who might be awful."

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 18 April 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

never would have guessed that 45 single sales outstripped LPs consistently like that

xp

― Οὖτις, Monday, April 18, 2016 11:44 AM (2 hours ago)

hard to tell if the light green + dark green are supposed to be = total vinyl sales, in which case LPs outsold 45s except for like a 10-year stretch in the 90s. not sure what the explanation of that would be

k3vin k., Monday, 18 April 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link

yeah, when compared to this chart, also produced by the riaa, it becomes clear that the amounts sold are stacked. so, LPs were outselling singles for most of the period in question here. makes sense, aor heyday.

Keks + Nuss (contenderizer), Monday, 18 April 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

^ shows that vinyl sales are still a tiny portion of the total, with CDs and downloads making up the bulk. also, perhaps suggests that CD sales and downloads are both establishing a plateau?

Keks + Nuss (contenderizer), Monday, 18 April 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

Grimes’ outspokenness is an important step to guaranteeing that accusations such as Kesha’s are treated with the respect they deserve, rather than as the complaints of someone who is simply unhappy in a recording contract.

jesus christ

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 April 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

So apparently Dr. Luke isn’t the only male producer in the industry who might be awful.

you don't say

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 18 April 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

"You know what I really want? I want to watch the Beyonce videos." (googles)

"Long Live Queen Bey, for she has graced us with an unparalleled release event combining music, video, and everything that we already love about Beyoncé. Building on everything that she promised when she debuted the video for "Formation" the weekend of the Super Bowl, Beyoncé's Lemonade HBO premiere event took an equally important television slot (the Game of Thrones premiere weekend), and made it entirely her own. Now that everyone has taken the time to fully absorb all of Beyoncé's new music that has just been unleashed onto the world (although if you need more time, that's understandable), the first step is to figure out how to watch all of that goodness again. So where can you stream the Lemonade music videos?

Like a real glass of lemonade, Beyonce's Lemonade special was a sweet, refreshing treat and I would like more of it ASAP. With the HBO special also comes a new album of Beyoncé material ready to be listened to over and over again. And much like how Beyoncé's last release Beyoncé featured a video for every single song, it seems as though Lemonade is doing something similar. Beyonce's latest visual album has set the internet on absolute fire, spawning analysis of the images and lyrics that comprise Lemonade. Beyoncé fans hoping to revisit the dense project can find the project available for streaming on HBOGo, as well as on Tidal alongside the album itself.

The film lends a power to the words that is lost when listening only to the album, so be sure to revisit Lemonade as it was intended to be consumed, as a visual album."

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 24 April 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link

Like a real glass of lemonade, Beyonce's Lemonade special was a sweet, refreshing treat and I would like more of it ASAP.

wow

JWoww Gilberto (man alive), Sunday, 24 April 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

popular drink iirc

glandular lansbury (sic), Sunday, 24 April 2016 04:11 (seven years ago) link

the best part is how half the time it says Beyoncé and half the time it just says Beyonce

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 24 April 2016 04:13 (seven years ago) link

(also, I promised myself I'd spend less time criticizing other people's writing, but this is so cynical and empty and blatant an attempt to waste readers' time and divert them away from good artistry that it's infuriating. at least What Time Is The Super Bowl told you what time the goddamn Super Bowl was!)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 24 April 2016 04:15 (seven years ago) link

The answer to that question is a little difficult for many fans to answer because, well, neither Jay Z or Beyoncé seem to know a Becky. Neither of them have mentioned one in a song before, nor have they ever been connected to a person named Becky. The only celebrity who has been connected with a Becky in any big way in the news would be Taylor Swift, i.e. in 2014 when she wore that no its Becky shirt in response to that famous internet meme in which someone purposefully confused a picture of her with that of their friend Becky. Of course, the chances of Taylor Swift being "Becky with the good hair" is pretty slim to none. She does have good hair, but she doesn't spend much time hanging out with Beyoncé or Jay Z.

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 April 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

obligatory youtube here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcKG4EJ6rsQ

ulysses, Sunday, 24 April 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

Brad that quote made my brain bleed.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 25 April 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link

classic becky

mandatory sex webinar (contenderizer), Monday, 25 April 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

this just seems like someone straight up trolling certain ilm posters

http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/24/people-think-james-blake-is-the-true-star-of-beyonces-lemonade-5837280/

soref, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

Not a piece of writing, but I thought this exchange was worth preserving:

@leahfinnegan: nyt really needs a female music critic
@alexrossmusic: Is classical music "music"? If so, meet @CorinnadFW and @VivSchweitzer
@leahfinnegan: @alexrossmusic @CorinnadFW @VivSchweitzer point missed but thanks
@alexrossmusic: @leahfinnegan @CorinnadFW @VivSchweitzer I see your point, and am making another.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 25 April 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/25/475288644/songs-we-love-nite-jewel-kiss-the-screen

there's some OK stuff in this piece, but there are also a bunch of sentences that make me think the author does not know what words mean.

e.g.

...performed her Nite Jewel alias as an equalizer between herself and the listener rather than a salable object of desire....

They're fascinating, headspace-oriented compositions with poptimist touch tones for hooks, and the freedom Gonzalez found to mix and record as she saw fit permeates the songs' breezy production....

The liberty to move and work comfortably gave Gonzalez a way to construct a dubious, vaporous record that sits outside of the facile labels that circulate the music industry....

The final graf doesn't have any obvious howlers but advances an argument that doesn't really make any sense to me.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/04/merle-haggard-country-music-reagan/

Haggard always sang with a furrowed brow and lolling eyes. As a young man this habit seemed flirtatious, but as he aged it made him look paranoid and sad, perpetually puppy-dogging at every camera he encountered. For some, he seemed an end-times prophet of the waning era of American prosperity, talking straight and offering potent warnings of decline.

But in reality, he was just a run-of-the-mill conservative — for Merle, the keepers of the status quo were under constant attack, and he was a fierce defender of their privilege.

He was also a hypocrite, or maybe just confused.

fuck u commie rag

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

Looks like Haggard's death has spawned quite a bit of poorly-composed vitriol. The response to the Jacobin piece is pretty spectacular, though.

Meanwhile, here's this one, which is indefensible from the get-go...

jon_oh, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

Jacobin is a joke.

-_- (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

it's nice when jacobin hands me another reason to ignore them

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

NIce to see Haggard used as a pivot point for completely opposed ideological factions.

hardcore dilettante, Friday, 29 April 2016 04:58 (seven years ago) link

"Long before “Netflix & Chill” was synonymous with sloppy Tinder finger-banging on a loveseat gifted from a family friend, Netflix was actually a different frontier altogether."

A DIFFERENT ONE ALTOGETHER!

https://medium.com/swlh/choice-the-new-democracy-of-music-c2b9fa83f72e#.2jolch89p

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 8 May 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

going by that quoted line I was surprised that wasn't av club tbh

Elvis Santana (stevie), Sunday, 8 May 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

it's true, though, netflix was indeed a different frontier. for instance, it was once a weed-smoking elmo avatar named qwikster

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 8 May 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Do we have a thread for awful interviews?

https://itunes.apple.com/us/post/idsa.88faafb5-1c3a-11e6-8352-477931e7a37d

Who needs to do research when you have that Apple cash I guess.

maura, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link

awful interviews have been Ebro's niche for a long time

a goon shaped tool (some dude), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 12:46 (seven years ago) link

I mean its Interview magazine so maybe it doesn't count but

TINA WEYMOUTH: Yeah, there is a very mature approach in Dreamland, where Natalie sings, "there's no use crying." I thought, "Wow, if only our Middle Eastern brethren knew that," that the wailing and the smashing of teeth is not the way to go, but rather dreaming, and out of dreams comes a much better reality.

http://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/wild-belle-dreamland#_

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Monday, 23 May 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

hmm http://www.alternativenation.net/the-importance-of-music-in-entertainment/

Frozen CD, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

We are all the NPR intern now:
www.mtv.com/news/2888213/de-la-soul-listening/

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

oh man whiney i totally made myself stop and not post that...

scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

it just seemed like a shooting fish in an internet barrel kinda thing. like with those old pitch things on pitchfork. and then people would tell me that the person who wrote it is only 15 and has started a non-profit meals on wheels group and isn't a real music writer or something and that i'm mean.

but it does totally suck.

scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link


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