Rolling SERIOUS GRAPHIC LITERATURE Thread for Comics in 2016

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i also just, er, ACQUIRED full publishing libraries for First and Milestone. Lots to explore!

ulysses, Monday, 11 April 2016 03:20 (eight years ago) link

I liked that Wendy thing from Hazlitt & Hairpin

http://wendycore.tumblr.com/

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 11 April 2016 09:12 (eight years ago) link

Just finished Brian K Vaughan's -collected _Private Eye_ series, which includes his original pitch emails to artist Marcos Martin. There's a weird tone in the pitch document where he's describing the future, non-Internet world he wants the book to inhabit. He's describing his problems with current society, as it were, being all digital and smartphoney and tablety, and tips his hand a little _too_ much in such a way that reads to me like "these are the complaints of a really privileged white dude in LA who's been balls-deep in too much media for too long".

The book itself is pretty good; the philosophy behind its world-building kinda off.

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Sunday, 17 April 2016 10:56 (eight years ago) link

Weird, considering (iirc) that series was supposed to be an experiment in digital comics

Nhex, Sunday, 17 April 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps it's a requirement of his job to be into all this stuff and he feels trapped.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 17 April 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link

Anyone still reading the BPRD/Hellboy stuff in 2016? I feel like the really long game they're playing with dark forces taking over the planet is kind of dragging, but there are hints it's starting to move toward an end. The Abe Sapien title seems to be starting to loop back toward the center and I enjoyed the most recent issue

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 14:13 (eight years ago) link

new chester is great, love that dude though maybe wouldn't want to hang out w him

adam, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link

Or shake his hand

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 14:28 (eight years ago) link

lol

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link

I haven't really been able to enjoy hellboy stuff not drawn by mignola. He is 10x more alive as a cartoonist than a writer to me.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link

i agree

ulysses, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link

I wanted to get a recent issue of Abe Sapien because it has Santiago Caruso, his first comic work. I think he's genuinely one of the greatest illustrators of all time.
I like Corben's Hellboy work too but I wish he didn't Mignolize the faces of Hellboy in the later stuff.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link

so, my completely non-serious graphic literature question

I've never been to a larger traveling fan exhibition thing. The... *cough* wizard world *cough* one is coming through my city. Is it.. bad? Kind of tempted to drop in to say hi to Colleen Doran and Peter David

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

hellboy stuff with normal-style mainstream comics art is the worst. there's one BRPD story written by GEOFF JOHNS and illustrated by SOME SCRUB that just lays bare the entire enterprise

adam, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 15:54 (eight years ago) link

please don't tell me that *sobs*

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, a lot of the fill in artists on Hellboy don't work that well. That's probably why you never see most of them again. I wish Gene Colan did more for Hellboy.

If Wizard magazine from some years back is representative of the current convention, then it's probably not good. It epitomized a lot of what was wrong with mainstream comics. But it was funny on occasion.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

Did not know Colan did some hellboy! Would read that!

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link

It was only something like 7 pages though.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

Wizard World hits Portland about once a year and always strikes me as being more a really expensive vendortainment sale and chance to pay celebrities a lot of money for a photo. You have plenty of this for any con nowadays, but this aspect seems the primary objective for the event.

Truth be told, I did consider going a few years back when they brought James Hong to town just for the chance to meet James Hong.

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link

I should dress as the Maestro if I go meet Peter David, right

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

yes.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:45 (eight years ago) link

Those BPRD Plague of Frogs omnibuses are a great read. Guy Davis did most of the art on that mega arc. It is one of the best 'superhero' doomsday stories.

It is getting near the end of the next chapter, however there are other series fitting in other eras of the BPRD and Hellboy.

In general, I think the whole Mignolaverse is pretty high quality. I particularly like the Baltimore series myself.

earlnash, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link

You have plenty of this for any con nowadays

You're saying this in the city where Linework NW happens and a couple of hours from where Short Run happens (not to mention Jet City and ECCC)

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 21 April 2016 00:59 (eight years ago) link

Is there a good place to start for Mignola? Or, like, what's a career peak moment if I'm lazy and only want to read a six-issue story to get the idea?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 21 April 2016 11:45 (eight years ago) link

I would say the first arc he did without Byrne's help but I can't remember the title rn someone help me out.

The Amazing Screw-On Head is a wonderful standalone piece, too.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:27 (eight years ago) link

but it only had one print run, smaller than his Hellboy books of the time

I've still never seen a copy

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

the hellboy arc or screw-on head?

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:15 (eight years ago) link

screw-on

so he never collected it in an odds and sods? Wow.

*clutches copy of amazing screw-on head to breast*

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link

I was going to say, I've seen that collection and got the digital version during a sale. It's in stock on amazon.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link

expensive for what it is though.

didn't think much to ASOH tbh unless i'm mis-remembering it.

i think any of the dozen or so hellboy trades would suit. get the one with the nazis and the zombies in it (jokes!)

koogs, Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

I just wanted to go to the shop and buy a comic book

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

not wait eight years and then pay $40 to have a hardcover with some extra crap mailed from America

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:13 (eight years ago) link

the trades should be widely available. i've even seen them in libraries.

koogs, Thursday, 21 April 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link

that still doesn't help the eight year gap at first*, nor the interest in going and buying a single self-contained comic that received such glowing reaction. and Dark Horse's site doesn't seen to indicate there has been a trade, six years after the HC that you note as being poor value anyway

*seven years after it won the Eisner. Four years after the TV adaptation!

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 21 April 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

dark horse making suspect release decisions? well, I never!

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 21 April 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

Oh, the trade recommendation was for chuck, who wanted 6 issues mobile fix. That got confused with your screw on head comment somewhere along the way.

koogs, Thursday, 21 April 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

Mignola, not mobile

koogs, Thursday, 21 April 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

Thanks! Can you recommend a Hellboy/BRPD too? Have tried the first vol a few times bit find it a bit boring.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 April 2016 10:59 (eight years ago) link

Plague of Frogs is a decent place to jump in -- it's where they started a main storyline rather than just the monster of the week stories. There are still the one-offs, but it's where some of the doomsday predictions that were whispered in other stories start to play out

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link

conqueror worm is very good. i prefer the fragmented semicontinuity of the early miniseries to the later more traditional approach. plague of frogs is still awesome though

adam, Friday, 22 April 2016 15:09 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the more cohesive Hellboy stories before the BPRD title launched are the best

Eventually the characterization of the different BPRD members starts to gel and I really like a few of them. I think they're finally getting around to really pulling back the covers on Abe Sapien's early relationship with the team, which should be good.

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link

it's really for the Hellboy die-hards, but the stuff about his lineage and origin is super-nerdy and pretty wild

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 22 April 2016 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Thanks!

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 April 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link

I'd just start with first Hellboy trade up to when he leaves the BPRD then read the war on frogs omnibus trades.

earlnash, Friday, 22 April 2016 16:55 (eight years ago) link

Annie Mok interviews Julie Doucet on her recent collage work: http://www.tcj.com/the-starting-point-an-interview-with-julie-doucet/

one way street, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link

damn Murder by Remote Control looks awesome!

Nhex, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the only thing I remember by Kirchner is The Bus. This looks great.

kills 1.8 percent of household germs (WilliamC), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link

Trondheim meets Mickey Mouse!

Mickey Craziest Adventures Hc

Published by IDW PUBLISHING

(W) Lewis Trondheim & Various (A/CA) Nicolas Keramidas It's a 'lost' 1965 Disney epic, deemed too wild for publication and saved only in tantalizing fragments... or is it? When Pegleg Pete and the Beagle Boys shrink and steal Scrooge's Money Bin, Mickey and Donald must track them down-in what is really a brand-new album-length thriller by comics masters Lewis Trondheim and Nicolas Keramidas: told in an amazing indy style and presented like a treasure suspended in time! Bullet points: ' Advance solicited for September release! ' By popular demand IDW brings an outrageous new Disney graphic novel to America-featuring the work of Lewis Trondheim (A.L.I.E.E.E.N, Little Nothings), Inkpot Award winner and two-time Eisner Award nominee! ' Trondheim and Nicolas Keramidas match a cutting-edge psychedelic look with the traditions of their beloved Disney inspirations-Floyd Gottfredson and Carl Barks!

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Saturday, 30 April 2016 01:24 (eight years ago) link


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