Why is everyone not going totally bonkers about the junior boys?

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no way, the second album is if anything even more sublime! the chorus of 'the equalizer' ranks up there with anything on the first album.

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 March 2007 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link

2n album much greater.

jed_, Thursday, 1 March 2007 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, assuming this is the final tracklist and not just the promo:
In The Morning (Hot Chip Remix)
FM (Ten Snake Remix)
Like A Child (Carl Craig Remix)
Double Shadow (Kode 9 Remix)
FM (Marsen Jules Remix)

That MFA remix from the first album was never released officially, right? :/

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

another vote cast for second album much better

modestmickey, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Like A Child (Carl Craig Remix)

omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgOMG

lex pretend, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Props for getting Ten Snake on the case!

Tim F, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link

The Tensnake mix is the only good one. possibly the songs are just too close to me now but the Hot Chip and Carl Craig Mixes made me think they had missed the point of the songs or never understood them. the CC one gets better after a pretty awful intro but it's fairly rote. The Kode 9 mix doesn't even have Jeremy on it except for one second at the end - you could read tat one second blip of him as an insult - but it does have bleedin' spaceape moanin all over it.

jed_, Saturday, 3 March 2007 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link

actually the Kode 9 one does have some jeremy buried under all the layers and it is a decent tune if not the remix i wanted.

jed_, Saturday, 3 March 2007 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...

The "itunes session" version of "under the sun" might be my favourite thing by the boys ever. it is its own Studio remix! total disco shoegaze, even moreso than maurice fulton's ost & kjex remix. tim, get on this.

jermainetwo, Thursday, 19 July 2007 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link

the album has been re-released with all of that itunes session and all the remixes on a bonus disc. must get!

haitch, Thursday, 19 July 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

There are three or four live Junior Boys sessions floating around as podcasts. The latest I've heard is their sonar set at http://www.youarehear.co.uk/ although I believe KEXP's podcast had them as well.

mh, Thursday, 19 July 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Listening to this Johnny Dark EP (: ) !) it is a total shame that he is not in the band anymore. He is really lacking on the second album IMHO.

I know, right?, Saturday, 21 July 2007 11:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I wish it was Jeremy Greenspan, not the San Serac dude singing on Johnny Dark's new project, album soon apparently.

Under the Sun session vers. kills yes. It needs remixing into a 15 minute balearic epic though!

Alex xy, Saturday, 21 July 2007 12:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks for posting that link!

I know, right?, Saturday, 21 July 2007 12:22 (sixteen years ago) link

San Serac is like an excercise in 'what if David Bowie couldn't sing'? Maybe it will grow on me.

Alex xy, Saturday, 21 July 2007 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link

He is really lacking on the second album IMHO

oh really?

o-ess, Saturday, 21 July 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Fuck you.

I know, right?, Saturday, 21 July 2007 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

second album is better than the first and all the better for not having JD in the band.

jed_, Saturday, 21 July 2007 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

No it isn't! Its kind of obvious in comparison. The great thing about Last Exit was how it tore OMD down to just the sparest bleeps and tickles of sound. Dark's production on the songs I imagine are mainly him (such as Bellona, High Come Down and When I'm Not Around) is the way he gently fucks with the remains, rubbing up against splashes of Garage and House and Seventies AOR. They hold the songs up in a strange, wobbly fashion.

Most of what makes Junior Boys so beautiful is the way they maroon genre, they appropriate all these little elements of pop music into something really darkly personal and beautiful. Its the way they inform the songs with all these bits of radio pop music and then rub it all out until its just smudged fragments, so endlessly suggestive and delicately precarious.

Bellona is my favourite track, the 2-step helium voice and Greenspan almost duetting, him gently pleading against her android-like gibberish. Its really genuinely moving. The title track's sparseness and the way the shuddering beats echo off into the oceans of emptiness manages to even suggest the radio in the car being turned off, and the subsequent silence...

There are really strong tracks that aren't Dark affiliated, Teach Me How To Fight has some of the best lyrics on the album and the synth line bursts out from the rhythm section with the right amount of sensuously mysterious melancholy.

The second album is gorgeous, but it seems to straight ahead, too certain of itself. Too comfortable.

I know, right?, Saturday, 21 July 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

you're insane.

o-ess, Sunday, 22 July 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree re: bellona

cutty, Sunday, 22 July 2007 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link

You agree that I'm insane with re: bellona?

I know, right?, Sunday, 22 July 2007 00:34 (sixteen years ago) link

no, i agree w you

cutty, Sunday, 22 July 2007 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

jesus

cutty, Sunday, 22 July 2007 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"Bellona" is great but it's not 2-step, it's kind of a forerunner for the first few tracks on the second album. it's always reminded me or jurgen paape's lighter moments a bit.

Tim F, Sunday, 22 July 2007 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i didn't like most of what i heard from the 2nd album at all but i'll probably buy the deluxe version for some of the remixes and that itunes under the sun thing.

babedad, Sunday, 22 July 2007 06:00 (sixteen years ago) link

The Tensnake mix is the only good one.

OTM.

jaymc, Sunday, 22 July 2007 08:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't go bonkers in 2003, but last year's followup was really, really great. Looking forward to more great electropop coming up next time around.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 22 July 2007 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

jesus

No, sometimes I get genuinely confused when there's so many people talking, I don't know who's reacting to who. Y'know?

I know, right?, Sunday, 22 July 2007 12:24 (sixteen years ago) link

no one thinks the hot chip remix is any good? really?

vadx, Sunday, 22 July 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

any mention of this yet?

haitch, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 05:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Looks pretty good from here...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 05:19 (sixteen years ago) link

where's dave stelfox these days?

sam500, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow. Was not expecting that. I love that they've used Steadycam's "In The Moog For Love" - I thought I was the only person in the world who thought that was an astonishing track.

Tim F, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm liking the look of this.

Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 09:38 (sixteen years ago) link

in the moog for love is indeed lovely! i think i got it on your recommendation on here tim!

glad people are still playing deer in the headlights, that vocal is one of my favourite things to come from get physical. also thought that might be guitar (the electro-shoegaze band) but, no.

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Listening to it right now. It's good.

theslothproject, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

the mix is decent but it's not even close to as good as vol5 (chateau fligh) and i'm about finished listening to mixes from people who aren't actual dj's. the mixing on a few of these transitions is terrible despite being done with software.

the first mix is shit. just because the songs are going the same speed doesn't mean you should just mix it in wherever you like. first track fades out too fast, second track enters and it's only just begun, losing all flow from the previous tune. this type of annoying mixing continues throughout. if you're going to do a computer mix get someone who knows how to sequence songs to put the set together and mix it for you.

having said that, it's a decent collection. i won't be buying this like i bought the previous 4 or 5 volumes but it's been a decent way to spend an hour.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

just listening again and the transition from 2 to 3 is horrible too. from Supermayer into Chelonis..how the fuck do you trainwreck a digital mix that isn't live? too bad Get Physical is banking on the Junior Boys name selling copies instead of giving us a quality mix.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link

bad news because that tracklist looks really nice

tricky, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

was the chateau flight one good? i like them but never picked up a copy.

haitch, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

the chateau flight mix is great. i've enjoyed listening to it many times. i'd recommend that mix over this one any day.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess I'm going to have to try harder to check these guys out. I tried them once before, and nothing came of it, but I'm smitten over the Dead Horse EP. It all started this morning when I heard my alarm clock go off and on the radio was playing "FM (Tensnake remix)". I was like "wow, what is this?"

Bimble, Saturday, 19 January 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Last Exit>>>>>>>>>So this is Goodbye, Bimble. Please retry and repost.

I know, right?, Saturday, 19 January 2008 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link

If anything the mix prompted me to buy a couple of Stereo Image tracks. Sounding somewhere between Safety Scissors and Junior Boys.

How involved was Johnny Dark in the making of Last Exit?

arghkaybee, Saturday, 19 January 2008 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link

six years pass...

you know what's bonkers? this is one of, seriously, 24 threads about junior boys on ilm, lol.

jaymc, Sunday, 21 September 2014 04:42 (nine years ago) link

i think they're a band, tho, where i'll probably listen to anything they do as long as they keep making records. like the sea & cake, you know. even if it's mediocre, it's a sound that i find very appealing.

jaymc, Sunday, 21 September 2014 04:45 (nine years ago) link

i find it hard to defend certain musical artists who have my aesthetic number, so to speak. i will genuinely stump for last exit and so this is goodbye, tho.

jaymc, Sunday, 21 September 2014 04:46 (nine years ago) link

For me the 3 most frustrating albums from the 00s onwards are:

yeah yeah yeahs - its blitz
The rapture - house of jealous lovers
Junior Boys - last exit

I love most of the compositions in those records but hate the way they are mixed. I'm not a producer so I don't know how to describe it properly but it sounds too high on the treble for a dance album. It sounds spike-y, it kind of aches my ears and it frustrates me because with a different, better production I'm sure they'd be amazing

Moka, Sunday, 21 September 2014 07:58 (nine years ago) link

this could be to do with what's known in the industry as "dynamic range compression", or DRC for short. basically they "compress" the dynamic range, and this basically compresses the sound. it's a real "hot topic" among music buffs, and could change the way we listen to music for years to come

cool music buff (missingNO), Sunday, 21 September 2014 11:33 (nine years ago) link


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