GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

i sorta love how terrible they had to make desi to find an appropriate match for marnie's self-absorbtion

like a one hour play about just the two of them fighting would be sort of amazing, in a modernist avant-garde awful way

man that was bad

only funny moment/laugh was when Desi started to cry

glad they brought Marnie's douchebag ex back around for one final round of humiliation though

"What have you been doing since you left Girls we broke up?"

"Now I'm a fat drug-dealing junkie!"

ok so Hannah has become so improbably immature and bad decision makey and just a fucked up nonsense shell of a human being and it has completely ceased to be funny, interesting, or even remotely logical or realistic. It makes absolutely zero sense, and also it's very tiresome and I don't care about anything she does at all.

I can't separate this show in my mind from Dunham's sycophantish public displays of appreciation for people like Hillary Clinton and Melinda Gates, and to me that is of a piece with the show's very narrow, mainstream young upper-middle-class liberal take on things -- forward thinking about sex and relationships up to a point, complacent about p much everything else.

Lol desi's ray bradbury shelf

Hannah needs to get fired from this school.

This show is amazing

Desi is so ridiculous

Wtf with charlies accent

Is that what happens when you get addicted to cocaine?

This episode was totally filmed in my neighborhooddddd

Its not rough the way they make it seem in the episode. Far more marnies than nu-charlies

lol so no one's watching this eh

this was the best episode of this show in a very long time.

it seems to have virtually vanished in terms of popular buzz

this episode managed the amazing trick of underscoring and making extremely blatant every critique you could possibly make about most of the main characters, and yet, somehow, making them more likable in the end. in fact this should probably have been the last episode of the series.

oh wow this gives me hope! I was planning on getting around to this week's ep like whenver, eventually

it was very good.

Really good ep. But I didn't dislike the panic in needle park one either. The show is easily overrated but also easily over hated imo

these were okay, a little DO U SEE with the characters' stating things so plainly

also lol @ Dunham getting her characters' ethnicity wrong

Last two episodes some of the best of the entire show, enjoyed them more than anything since before Hannah went to Iowa. Jenny Slate was great (even if I got weird vibes that Lena Dunham was trying to cop some Broad City vibe in their scenes) and that ep's denouement with Jessa and Adam was great. The Jessa and Adam stuff in the final episode was really dark, and painful, and stirring.

even if I got weird vibes that Lena Dunham was trying to cop some Broad City vibe in their scenes

yeah, yr not alone on that one

turned out that broad city was i wanted Girls to be, just sayin.

yup. joeks are funny. navel gazing not so much.

Oh wow that WAS a good episode. So fed up w Hannah for stealing a bike tho.

a twenty-five or whatever yr old w a framed seance on a wet afternoon poster is the least realistic thing ever depicted on this show

i knew twenty five yr olds w/ a framed Who Are You, Polly Maggoo? poster tho -- is that more realistic or less realistic?

All through that fight I kept thinking "Oh Ray, your lovely, lovely apartment..."

What's the Elliot Gould movie he's got the poster for over the fireplace?

Poster is Ray's, he's older.

What's the Elliot Gould movie he's got the poster for over the fireplace?

that's from Long Goodbye, and its a cardboard standup iirc?

altho yeah lol my thought too was "wow what a couple of assholes, breaking all Ray's shit"

i knew twenty five yr olds w/ a framed Who Are You, Polly Maggoo? poster tho

more realistic, bcz that movie's not so hot ;)

Polly Maggoo massive style icon to my other half when she was a teen

yah slow motion weed smoking to urban outfitters music was wayy too broad city for me

My wife started watching girls and I missed most of the first season but I kept catching bits of the end of the first and second season and started watching it with her. I will say that I had assumed I would hate this show, and I mostly do. Season final was very good, even though I hate most of the characters, I will say, Shoshanna is way underused, and Elijah is maybe the best.

I had to look up polly maggoo, damn Dorothy McGowan could pass for could i get some nude photoes of audrey hepburn's neck plz

this show is so tonally bizarre--i've never understood how its admirers (which included me once upon a time) can square the "you're supposed to hate the characters and their privilege etc" with what can only be described as bathetic non-sequiturs for which caring about the characters seems a prerequisite. and the lazy hipster caricatures! and the flatly fantastical parable in which ray's coffee shop catera to "adults" where adulthood simply means, i dunno, having a job and not being a hipster anymore? and i felt like the trashing of the apt sequence was kind of desperate because they didn't really have anything actually dramatic to do. i guess i dont get this show at all.

oh and the broad city thing was strange, since it seemed like a fairly explicit allusion. it somehow comes off as professional jealously.

also was the last shot a reference to the 400 Blows.

yea the anti-hipster coffee shop seemed like a misstep for this show. otm on too flat a portrayal. I think the rest of ur critique is on point but the tone mix is a strength & makes it sortof more nuanced than staying in 1 lane. like y cant you hate their privilege and also care abt them?

i think that's fair--maybe the cognitive dissonance is too much for me.

there are no coffee shops without lids. they all have the lids off to the side somewhere.

Last two shows were really poorly written. They do this every season - Hannah asks like a jerk for nine episodes then gets some kind of gentle affirming resolution. Everyone else has their character monstered at the last minute for holding Hannah back.

add this to the list of shows that i just keep watching out of some self imposed obligation to finish what i started while no longer getting enjoyment out of it.

Ray rode by me slowly on a bike recently and if it's possible for a facial expression to say "Yeah, that's right, I'm Ray," that's exactly what it said.

"there are no coffee shops without lids. they all have the lids off to the side somewhere."

i've absolutely been to coffee shops without lids

Cafes Sans Frontiers