quelle surprise
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 March 2016 00:48 (eight years ago) link
It technically wouldn't be the first time ATD-I have existed without Jim Ward, though. There's always seemed to have been quite a bit of tension between him and Omar/Cedric.
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 19 March 2016 01:06 (eight years ago) link
it's not the same w/o ward, breh
― sunlick databait extremer, Saturday, 19 March 2016 11:50 (eight years ago) link
presenting: the classic at the drive-in lineup from the el gran orgo ep
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 March 2016 11:58 (eight years ago) link
wow. their tour starts in three days. what happened? people are *pissed* all over the internet. i was never into sparta and definitely prefer the omar/ceddy side of the band, but jim is crucial to that balance, and on a practical level, what are they going to do? ATDI is a two-guitar band... they gonna have a roadie or a guitar tech fill in? what about vox? fuck. bummer
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:15 (eight years ago) link
honestly, cancel some or all of tour & refund/reschedule might be the only thing for it
kinda sad to see their fanbase airing all these grievances, too -- people very quick to point fingers or suspect a scam (one dude accused them of "acting like drug addicts" !!!) -- my sentiments were nicely captured by one cooler-headed poster, who was pleased not to have found tickets after all, if the room was going to be filled with such bad vibes
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link
yeah i mean its not a scam, they're not high, but omar is a hothead, and they've had a history in ATDI and TMV of kicking members out or people leaving on bad terms suddenly with little or no explanation (Jon Theodore, Thomas Pridgen, Eva Gardner, Blake Fleming, Ikey Owens, original ATDI breakup, TMV breakup...)
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link
maybe it has something to do with the new material they were working on. i wonder if they were planning on playing new songs at these shows and jim wasn't feeling whatever direction they were going in, and they couldn't work it out and there was a silly blowup just like the first breakup.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link
xp seems kinda insane not to have learned from any of those past mistakes... but I guess having a 'backup plan' in case things with Ward went south would be too much bet-hedging for fans not to cry foul, so I eagerly look forward to whatever replacement guitarist they can find with the speed* to learn all the songs in three days '_'*or meth?
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
yeah i mean given the short notice it's gotta be a guitar tech. still doesn't solve backup vox problem. omar cant sing
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link
I'm not a super-fan, wasn't around to see them live, so have to ask: Jim is the one dude in this video who's *NOT* rocking the skinny jeans & black tee look, yes? #creativedifferenceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBUtkPrANRs
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link
the legend goes that ATDI broke up when Jim wanted the next record to sound like Weezer and Omar and Cedric wanted it to sound like Piper at the Gates of Dawn. They destroy Jim in this Nardwuar interview circa 2008, Nard mentions Sleepercar, Omar's like "Jim who?.....Ohh! Oh! Yeah, Sleepercar. Sounds right." Cedric's like "I hope Jim doesn't show up to our show unannounced. He has a habit of doing that..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brdpQN3ACY8
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
I suspect that Jim has been out of the band for a while now. Rumour has it that Jim wasn't even told about these shows, and they've only just got around to confirming his absence now.
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
That doesn't square with the promo graphics featuring all five members. It was billed as a full reunion. They wouldn't just announce this three days before the tour starts if it was a long time coming. That's bad business. I don't think they're scamming people, I think they had a bad fight and it all fell apart like last week. Cedric was tweeting about rehearsals over the last month and everyone was involved.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
btw i just found the only known live recording of Ursa Minor (26:30 in). video was uploaded 2 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6v4RNkgUzc
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link
chrissie bixler@ChrissieBixler@georgeelmer7 he's dealing with some personal stuff. I love Jim.
https://twitter.com/ChrissieBixler/status/710993825074794496
― flappy bird, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link
oh jeez that's a bummer
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link
I guess that clears it up. Nothing about this band ever goes smoothly, does it?
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 19 March 2016 21:15 (eight years ago) link
Still no additional information. First show is tomorrow in Santa Ana. I'm sure it'll be bedlam - a thousand angry fans, half of whom probably aren't even aware that Ward isn't a part of the reunion anymore. This could be a real disaster. I hope they pull it off somehow - for all their great work, they really act like amateurs sometimes.
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link
Nobody knows who plays what in bands
― lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link
yeah no-one is going to cause a fracas cause jim isn't there let's be real
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 21 March 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link
haha could you imagine? one bro in tight jeans and a flannel yelling "WHERES JIM" getting all hulked out lol.
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link
― lute bro (brimstead), Monday, March 21, 2016 6:18 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
for a reunion tour with $60-80 tickets? doubt it. i doubt there will be a FRACAS, but the atmosphere will be totally fucked at first, and yeah, there will be plenty of bros screaming "WHERES JIM"
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 March 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link
thank you
― there will be plenty of bros screaming "WHERES JIM" (cwkiii), Monday, 21 March 2016 23:53 (eight years ago) link
WHERE'S JIM!?
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
IT'S FUCKING BEDLAM IN HERE!OMG, BRO, WHERE'S JIM!?
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link
Jimghazi
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link
Fire and jimstone!
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 00:06 (eight years ago) link
did any of you guys see that benghazi movie starring jim from the office
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 00:41 (eight years ago) link
WHERE'S JIM?!
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link
santa ana police are preparing for trouble at tonight's show:
https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2014/08/military-police-ferguson.jpg
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link
^ These guys take having "WHERE'S JIM!?" shouted at them very seriously.
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
The band is just fantastic, that is really what I thinkBy the way, WHERE'S JIM!?
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
the legend goes that ATDI broke up when Jim wanted the next record to sound like Weezer and Omar and Cedric wanted it to sound like Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
sounds like no great loss tbh
― Laertiades (imago), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link
i don't know, i always loved this cover... so much better than their out of tune cover of "This Night Has Opened My Eyes" by the Smiths...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0_gGOXqcng
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
xp. I think you need the ying and the yang tho.
atd-i > mars volta > spartamars volta + sparta = atd-i
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link
this is why jim's absence is going to cause massive unrest
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
and 67-minute blowout jams ;)
― Laertiades (imago), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
― trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:41 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link
I'm now imagining an ATD-I themed book of Where's Wally/Waldo? titled "WHERE'S JIM?!"
― WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link
I would say
ATDI > ANTEMASQUE > SPARTA > MARS VOLTA
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
you obviously do not enjoy latin rhythms and guitar pedals smh
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link
xx-post:
"Ah, there he is, near the non-operational station and the invalid litter dept., just behind the one-armed scissor!"
― WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link
doubting whether nate enjoys music tbh
― Laertiades (imago), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link
I like the first two Mars Volta records, particularly the second. Couldn't really get away with much after that, though, I kinda lost interest.
― WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
first two sparta albums are killer imo
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link
yeah i think i'd argue both offshoot bands were about equal in terms of quality. even the third sparta album has its moments but it's a victim of overreach (there's a gospel choir on the last track)
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link
the mars volta are fantastic from tremulant through amputechture... bedlam in goliath is spotty but has some great songs, both albums after that are disposable. never could get into sparta. and yeah, neither are as good as ATDI.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
the final track on noctourniquet or whatever is excellent
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omdjeVwxsQ8
can't remember the rest of it
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link