Rolling 2016 Thread on Race

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Avengers Academy, a time-wasting world building freemium mobile game in the vein of Simpsons: Tapped Out only with de-aged Avengers

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link

Does anyone else see anything subtly wrong with this ad?

http://i.imgur.com/VEosU1B.png

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 March 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link

I am pretty used to "black people in service to white people" imagery at this point but why is he stooping?

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link

Meanwhile, in more blatant "what the FUCK were you THINKING" news:

https://twitter.com/evanfmoore/status/708311829739675648

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:46 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah it was the posture and the way it was shot that made it a little worse for me -- stooping, smiling-yet-faceless, literally below the white woman

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:49 (eight years ago) link

OMFG. They seriously need to be boycotted out of business for that.

Going To Town On Aunt May's Mezze Platter (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 March 2016 15:51 (eight years ago) link

Reminded of an article I read about Atlantic City that described how in the pre-Casino years, the highlight of the trip for its middle class visitors was to hire a black person to push you down the boardwalk in a grown-up stroller.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link

xp, and I assume Old Lunch's was an xp about the hanging photo

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link

yeah I mean I have not noticed decor like this in either of the Joe's Crab Shack restaurants I've been in in Boston and I don't get why anyone would think anything about that would be a good idea

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link

that was on facebook trends earlier except they said "the photo appears to depict an execution"

which to me felt like an unwillingness to engage with the substance of the event

, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link

judging DJP for having visited multiple Joe's Crab Shack locations right now

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

all other things being equal, all restaurants deserve a chance

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link

I mean, I'd had a good meal at this place before this incident from last year (which IIRC was on the 2015 thread about race):

http://verification.blogspot.com/2015/02/strange-fruit-in-friendly-toast.html

I learned about this time that the decor in this place included a golliwog that the owners chose to paint white when they received complaints about it rather than remove it.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:43 (eight years ago) link

interesting course of action

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link

sorry, apparently they painted it green

MUCH BETTER

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

I don't care if you're black, white, green...

how's life, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link

sad lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

I've never got the "whitewashing" of racial artifacts.

"See? See everybody? I just wanted a jockey boy of any color at the end of my driveway. Just so happened the first one was black, why did you all flip out?"

pplains, Friday, 11 March 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link

Ugh, someone I know on FB a few weeks ago posted some nonsense about how we have black lawn jockeys all wrong, that they were originally used to designate houses that were on the Underground Railroad, so really they're ANTI-racist. Am I correct in assuming that this is complete bullshit?

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Friday, 11 March 2016 22:47 (eight years ago) link

yes

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 March 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

http://www.snopes.com/jocko-lawn-jockey-racist/

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 March 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

haha that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

pplains, Friday, 11 March 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link

that was on facebook trends earlier except they said "the photo appears to depict an execution"

which to me felt like an unwillingness to engage with the substance of the event

― 龜, Friday, March 11, 2016 12:37 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

http://i.imgur.com/JNbeS0f.png

call it for what it was

, Friday, 11 March 2016 22:56 (eight years ago) link

"Nooo, a burning cross in your yard is a just a friendly way of saying 'Welcome to the Neighborhood!' Like Christian fireworks!"

pplains, Friday, 11 March 2016 22:58 (eight years ago) link

Joe's Crab Shack: Restaurant sorry to hear that you think photo depicts execution scene, but restaurant thinks maybe you need to ask yourself why you would think photo depicts execution scene, maybe you have some things you need to deal with before eating at Joe's Crab Shack

Going To Town On Aunt May's Mezze Platter (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 March 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link

"execution" instead of "lynching" would be like calling a cross burning a "residency dispute"

μpright mammal (mh), Saturday, 12 March 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link

The bigger point, regardless of whether this is an "execution" or a "lynching", is why you would think a picture of someone being killed would be appropriate decor for your chain restaurant; that alone shows massive disregard for life and is fucking racist

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Saturday, 12 March 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

https://www.aclunc.org/blog/two-lawyers-walk-bar-and-get-kicked-out-being-black

I posted this on my Facebook wall and one of my friends from college, who currently lives in DC, works for NOAA, and has morphed into a conservative libertarian, responded with "Unreal. Especially as it's in California."

I feel like posting a bunch of stuff about Orange County on his wall now.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link

DO IT

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link

or the new residents in San Francisco who keep calling the police on people who have lived on their block for 30 years but they view as suspicious

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 25 March 2016 17:12 (eight years ago) link

He clarified with "I figured this sort of thing was limited to the deep South."

He further clarified with "Rephrase: I would have hoped this was limited to the deep South."

I responded with "As long as we're hoping for things, I would have hoped that things like this didn't happen anymore."

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 25 March 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link

OH btw re: the Joe's Crab Shack talk up thread, I realized very belatedly that I was thinking of Jasper White's Summer Shack. I've never been to Joe's Crab Shack.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 25 March 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link

With a name like that, I think you'd be forgiven for the mix-up.

pplains, Saturday, 26 March 2016 01:58 (eight years ago) link

I clicked through that thing the other day and again today and I realized that at no point does it ask anything that could be a definite indicator of race, only economic/social class

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

A lot of assumptions in those questions - like, I don't drink, therefore there is neither domestic nor imported beer in my refrigerator.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 28 March 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

i kind of think that's more of a qualification question than a disqualification

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

i would ignore that it's by the same guy who wrote the racist book The Bell Curve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

, Monday, 28 March 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

hmm, not sure i would ignore that

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

lol at them qualifying him as "libertarian"

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link

Is there a decent aggregator that aims at race domestically AND globally

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Monday, 28 March 2016 23:03 (eight years ago) link

It told me I was definitely not living in a bubble, which is kind of hilarious as I've spent the entirety of my post-high school life constructing the strongest, most impervious bubble I could reasonably make

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link

Yeah despite the copy saying "if you grew up working class, it will still be reflected in your score even if you become upper-middle later in life" all my knowledge of Nascar and domestic beer didn't save me from being scored in a deep bubble, which I don't think I am THAT much. Weird questions, weird scoring.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link

Quiz was written by a bubble dweller who likes to think otherwise.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

Quiz is aimed at white people and designed under the assumption that education makes you stupid.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 15:04 (eight years ago) link

I grew up upper middle-class in a middle-class/working-class environment and the test results seemed to inordinately reflect that.

I also laughed at the domestic beer question because I have a refrigerator filled with domestic expensive microbrews.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link

I am inordinately proud of my time in the service possibly mostly because it makes me a statistical outlier
that is all

other people systems as applicable (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/us/black-privilege/index.html

welcome to 2016

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

Terrible article. Why don't white people have special institutions explicitly dedicated to their group interests [that aren't also on a SPLC list]? Because they haven't needed them historically or today. However, I do understand why this stuff is coming up - because white people in the US are becoming a minority (slowly) and there is going to be a moment when they have to understand who they are distinct from their historical representation as the hegemonic majority. Are European Americans going to be an identity group like other groups? There's a lot of stuff in there that they haven't had to work out because they've just been the default culture for so long. From the context of identity / belonging I can understand why white ppl might feel like they're lacking something. (i don't think this is separable from the reality that going from hegemony to non-total hegemony will look like a terrible loss / theft to white ppl + like more equitability to everyone else.) imho sorry if anything I said was offensive.

Mordy, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link


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