Thanks for running this, Nate
― Lionel Richie the Wardrobe (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 7 March 2016 07:50 (eight years ago) link
(I won't bother posting my ballot because we can see everyone's ballot in the spreadsheet you posted a link to)
Very nice choice of pictures for the rollout.
― the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Monday, 7 March 2016 09:45 (eight years ago) link
Heaven Knows Im Miserable Nowthe boy with a thorn in his sidethere is a light that never goes outthis charming manReel around the fountainAski know its overpanicBigmouth Strikes AgainHand in glovestill illhow soon is now?accept yourselfGirlfriend in a comahandsome devilthis night has opened my eyeswilliam it was really nothingi wont share youwhat difference does it make?some girls are bigger than others
albums
hatful of hollowthe queen is deadthe world wont listenstrangeways here i comemeat is murder
― i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Monday, 7 March 2016 10:13 (eight years ago) link
missed the roll out of this but big thanks to nate and johnny and to everyone involved in a great thread.
my ballot1-How Soon Is Now? (immense, perfect))2-The Queen Is Dead (helllooo, pianer, nine yr old toughs)3-What Difference Does It Make? (drums crashing in, "in front ova" + oho ho)4- That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore (the swell before "i've seen this happen" the reprise, the extended ending))5-Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others (dole age, crate of ale, "oh i say")6-Hand In Glove (the fade in, DRUMS)7-This Charming Man (de-sol-ate)8-London (feedback whistle guitar mouth organ, the forward momentum, "platform")9-Death Of A Disco Dancer (maybe my favourite vocal performance)10-Paint A Vulgar Picture ("tacky badge")11-Handsome Devil ("i crack the whip)12-Rubber Ring ("lay in awe on your bedroom floor and said on no smother me mother" the most accurate distillation of how music can make me feell)13-Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (long build + everything else)14-Sheila Take A Bow (jauntiness)15-Panic (carlisle dublin dundee humberside)16-Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want ("good time for a change")17Sweet And Tender Hooligan (bruising)18-Back To The Old House ("saddest thing..")19-This Night Has Opened My Eyes (got me watching taste of honey which i'm glad about, beautifully evocative opening line)20-Barbarism Begins At Home (the third of the song where morrissey is too tired/bored to sing words and sings noises instead )
going thru their catalogue again surprised by just how much i love the drums on so much of their stuff. also for someone who i think is a brilliant lyricist just how much moz loves to wail away wordlessly and that's not even including the la la la's.
― pandemic, Monday, 7 March 2016 11:10 (eight years ago) link
singles:
1. Girl Afraid2. London3. Hand in Glove4. Rusholme Ruffians5. Back to the Old House6. This Charming Man7. How Soon is Now8. There is a Light That Never Goes Out9. Rubber Ring10. You've Got Everything Now11. What Difference Does it Make?12. Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others13. Handsome Devil14. Death of a Disco Dancer15. Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want16. Jeane17. Still Ill18. Pretty Girls Make Graves19. The Hand That Rocks the Cradle20. Miserable Lie
albums:
1. The Smiths2. Louder Than Bombs3. Meat is Murder4. Hatful of Hollow5. Rank
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, 7 March 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link
1.Ask2.This Charming Man3.There Is A Light That Never Goes Out4.That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore5.Panic6.This Night Has Opened My Eyes7.The Queen Is Dead8.Bigmouth Strikes Again9.Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now10.Frankly, Mr. Shankly11.Sheila Take a Bow12.Death Of A Disco Dancer13.Reel Around The Fountain14.Cemetry Gates15.Rusholme Ruffians16.Jeane17.Well I Wonder18.I Want The One I Can't Have19.You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby20.Asleep
― sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Monday, 7 March 2016 14:41 (eight years ago) link
My #1!
I love the story Marr has about designing the music after what he felt the MC5 should have sounded like after he'd finally heard and was disappointed by them.
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, March 6, 2016 3:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It was my #1, too. Funny, I got into the MC5 around the same time -- shit, now that I remember it, it was the same day -- I got into the Smiths. My brother and I went to the record store where he bought Hatful of Hollow, and I bought Babes in Arms.
I loved "The Queen Is Dead" the moment I first heard it. I already loved the Smiths, and I hadn't necessarily wished for them to rock out more, but hearing them do so blew my mind.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 March 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link
Thanks for doing this, nate!
My ballot:
1. The Queen Is Dead2. How Soon Is Now3. Bigmouth Strikes Again4. What Difference Does It Make5. This Charming Man6. William It Was Really Nothing7. Still Ill8. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out9. Handsome Devil10. What She Said11. These Things Take Time12. Frankly Mr. Shankly13. Hand In Glove14. I Know It's Over15. London16. Reel Around The Fountain17. The Boy With The Thorn In His Side18. You've Got Everything Now19. Cemetry Gates20. Vicar In A Tutu
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 March 2016 14:52 (eight years ago) link
songs:
How Soon Is Now? (would have been my #2 had I not gotten irritated right before sending my ballot)This Night Has Opened My Eyes (my actual favorite)What Difference Does It Make?Half A PersonSweet and Tender HooliganShoplifters Of The World UniteThere Is A Light That Never Goes OutThe Queen Is DeadBigmouth Strikes AgainLondonShakespeare's SisterWilliam, It Was Really NothingHandsome DevilHeaven Knows I'm Miserable NowMeat Is MurderGirl AfraidAskIs It Really So Strange?Rubber RingPlease, Please, Please, Let Me Get What I Want
Hatful of HallowThe Queen Is DeadLouder Than BombsMeat Is MurderThe Smiths
The songs that fell off the end of my ballot that I desperately wanted to include but couldn't:
A Rush And A Push And The Land Is OursAsleepBack To The Old HouseHand In GloveOscillate WildlyPanicReel Around The FountainThe Boy with the Thorn in His SideThis Charming Man
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link
The singer Morrissey is said to be "considering very seriously" an invitation to enter the London mayoral race.An entry on his semi-official website revealed he had been asked to stand by the Animal Welfare Party.A statement by the singer on the website said he wanted to speak out "against the hellish and archaic social injustice allotted to animals".The Animal Welfare Party confirmed it had approached him to represent them.Animal rightsVanessa Hudson, the party leader, told BBC London: "We'd like to see the mayoral contest include the views of a candidate who would seek to champion London, not only as a world leading city for people but for animal welfare, too."Morrissey, who has been vocal on the subject of animal rights and vegetarianism for many years, said in his statement: "What animal protectionists need to say is very well worth saying and well worth hearing."But we cannot just sit around waiting for establishment enlightenment. The sanctimonious disaster of animal agriculture cannot be allowed to go on forever, because its widespread impact is hellish."Morrissey is from Manchester and has lived in London, Los Angeles and Rome.To be eligible to stand, he would need to be registered to vote in London, or show that he had lived or worked there for 12 months.A candidate also needs the signatures of 10 registered electors from each London borough and a deposit of £10,000.Nominations for London mayoral candidates close at the end of March.
An entry on his semi-official website revealed he had been asked to stand by the Animal Welfare Party.
A statement by the singer on the website said he wanted to speak out "against the hellish and archaic social injustice allotted to animals".The Animal Welfare Party confirmed it had approached him to represent them.
Animal rightsVanessa Hudson, the party leader, told BBC London: "We'd like to see the mayoral contest include the views of a candidate who would seek to champion London, not only as a world leading city for people but for animal welfare, too."
Morrissey, who has been vocal on the subject of animal rights and vegetarianism for many years, said in his statement: "What animal protectionists need to say is very well worth saying and well worth hearing.
"But we cannot just sit around waiting for establishment enlightenment. The sanctimonious disaster of animal agriculture cannot be allowed to go on forever, because its widespread impact is hellish."
Morrissey is from Manchester and has lived in London, Los Angeles and Rome.
To be eligible to stand, he would need to be registered to vote in London, or show that he had lived or worked there for 12 months.A candidate also needs the signatures of 10 registered electors from each London borough and a deposit of £10,000.Nominations for London mayoral candidates close at the end of March.
― Mark G, Monday, 7 March 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
So he won't be standing for mayor then.
― Thomas of Britain (Tom D.), Monday, 7 March 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link
no.
― Mark G, Monday, 7 March 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link
Thanks so much to Mr. woolls f running the poll.
1Shoplifters Of The World UniteYou Just Haven't Earned It Yet, BabyThe Headmaster RitualReel Around The Fountain (John Peel version)The Queen Is DeadPanicThere Is A Light That Never Goes OutSweet and Tender HooliganSheila Take a BowAskStop Me If You Think You've Heard This One BeforeIs It Really So Strange?Girlfriend in a ComaHalf A PersonHeaven Knows I'm Miserable NowI Want The One I Can't HaveBigmouth Strikes AgainCemetery GatesUnhappy BirthdayThat Joke Isn't Funny Anymore20
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 7 March 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
"Panic" is still a ton of fun to sing but growing up with the rise of hip-hop and then learning more about the origins of techno combined with the "turn" his lyrics and public persona took makes it really, really hard for me (especially as an African-American) to not hear that song as a racist lynching anthem.
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link
TRACKS:
There Is A Light That Never Goes OutThat Joke Isn't Funny AnymoreHow Soon Is Now?What Difference Does It Make?Bigmouth Strikes AgainThe Boy with the Thorn in His SideWilliam, It Was Really NothingThis Night Has Opened My EyesThe Headmaster RitualThis Charming ManHeaven Knows I’m Miserable NowShakespeare's SisterSheila Take A BowPlease, Please, Please Let Me Get What I WantYou Just Haven't Earned It Yet, BabyAsleepHalf A PersonPretty Girls Make GravesRubber RingPanic
ALBUMS:
SinglesLouder Than BombsMeat Is MurderThe Queen Is DeadThe Smiths
― micro brewbio (crüt), Monday, 7 March 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link
1. You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby2. London3. I Started Something That I Couldn't Finish4. There is a Light That Never Goes Out5. This Charming Man6. Sweet and Tender Hooligan7. Ask8. Some Girls Are Bigger...9. Cemetery Gates10. Barbarism Begins at Home11. The Queen is Dead12. I Won't Share You13. Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before14. Bigmouth Strikes Again15. Half a Person16. Is It Really So Strange?17. Back to the Old House18. Panic19. I Know It's Over20. What Difference Does It Make?
ALBUMS
LOUDER THAN BOMBSTHE QUEEN IS DEADMEAT IS MURDERSTRANGEWAYS HERE WE COMETHE SINGLES
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 March 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
"Hatful of Hollow" really seems like the great divider--somebody upthread posted a ballot with literally nothing from that record;I would struggle to find more than half a dozen songs I care about that AREN'T on it...
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Monday, 7 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
Yeah my basic conception of The Smiths is Hatful/Bombs/TQID
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link
I've never heard Hatful of Hollow
― micro brewbio (crüt), Monday, 7 March 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
A Rush and a Push and the Land Is OursStill Ill [Hatful of Hollow version]Please Please Please Let Me Get What I WantThere Is a Light That Never Goes OutI Know It's OverLondonOscillate WildlyAsleepGirlfriend in a ComaJeaneUnloveableReel Around the Fountain [Hatful of Hollow version]The Boy with a Thorn in his SideSweet and Tender HooliganYou Just Haven't Earned It Yet, BabyI Want the One I Can't HaveVicar in a TutuUnhappy BirthdayCemetry GatesThis Charming Man
albumsLouder Than BombsThe Queen Is DeadHatful of HollowStrangeways, Here We ComeThe Smiths
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 7 March 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
Hatful of Hollow was the last Smiths' album I bought, so I had already heard all the songs on it except for Handsome Devil and Accept Yourself. Some of the versions are different, but it still never meant too much to me.
― sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Monday, 7 March 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link
"Panic" is still a ton of fun to sing but growing up with the rise of hip-hop and then learning more about the origins of techno combined with the "turn" his lyrics and public persona took makes it really, really hard for me (especially as an African-American) to not hear that song as a racist lynching anthem.― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2016 16:41 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2016 16:41 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if it helps, the song that prompted this was Wham's "I'm your man", so it would be that sort of thing..
― Mark G, Monday, 7 March 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link
and I thought they got on so well after their TV interview too
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link
It was because BBC Radio One DJ Steve Wright played "I'm Your Man" straight after a news report about Chernobyl.
― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
Instead of playing the Smiths.
― Thomas of Britain (Tom D.), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link
Ha! Yeah, possibly... but mostly because Moz/Marr felt it was so inappropriate. Kinda like playing a U2 song after coming out of a story about some fuckin' dog dying.
― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link
Pure indie snobbishness however you slice it though.
― Thomas of Britain (Tom D.), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
morrissey always hated the greeks
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 March 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link
"Rembetika is vile"
― Thomas of Britain (Tom D.), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
these guys are from England and who gives a shithttp://i.imgur.com/ByCnnyr.jpg
― micro brewbio (crüt), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link
See, when you come out of those nuclear goddamn disaster stories, man, it's impossible to make those transitions.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link
Diddly shit! Diddly shit!
― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link
Moz sings like a person who has never seen and has no interest in mammary glands.― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)people who were bottle fed sing differently?― sarahell
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
people who were bottle fed sing differently?
― sarahell
LOLOLOL
― Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Monday, 7 March 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link
Imagine how things might have turned out had the band been called Smiths!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link
Could totally imagine Moz in a "Choose Life" shirt, though.
xxp he's interested in protecting the mammary glands of cattle from mechanized human molestation
― micro brewbio (crüt), Monday, 7 March 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link
I say I say I say
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link
Would love if the song were actually about milking a cow.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link
http://i2.wp.com/contentdope.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/vegetarian-thanksgiving.jpg"Let me get my paddles on your wobbly waddles ..."
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
Re-listening to 'The Boy With The Thorn In His Side' again, I love it how Morrissey begins singing on the second chord in the chord progression, as opposed to the first chord where you'd expect the singing to start.
― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 7 March 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link
wasn't able to participate in this but thanks for organizing! I'm on tracks 77-75 and they are already awesome.
― skip, Monday, 7 March 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link
Tracks 50-48 I mean
― skip, Monday, 7 March 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link
ugh
i missed this
never got used to the fact that how soon is now is so loved, likewise with ask
son list would like thusly
20 miserable lie (peel sessions)last night i dreamtthis nightwhat difference (hatful)this charming man (hatful)barbarismboy with the thornheadmasterstop merusholmenowhere fasthandsome devil (hatful)londonrubber ringsome girlsstill ill (hatful)bigmouthi know it's overasleep1 there is a light
and out of the albums/comps
hatful of hollow is probably my fave, followed by queen is dead and meat is murder
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:01 (eight years ago) link
song*/look*
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 01:02 (eight years ago) link
Just noticed that the Smiths' Complete, which I bought as mp3s and assumed was... complete, doesn't include a few songs! I just heard "Wonderful Woman" for the first time and it's a very pretty song. Maybe not top 20, but certainly top 50
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 04:29 (eight years ago) link
Here is my very consenus-y ballot.
This Charming ManAskWilliam, It Was Really NothingPanicThe Boy With a Thorn In His SidePlease Please Please Let Me Get What I WantReel Around the FountainBigmouth Strikes AgainHand in GloveThere Is A Light That Never Goes OutHeaven Knows I'm Miserable NowIs It Really So StrangeHow Soon is Now?Cemetry GatesWhat Difference Does It Make?Girlfriend in a ComaSome Girls Are Bigger Than OthersGirl AfraidFrankly Mr. ShanklyStop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 14:15 (eight years ago) link
While waiting for the kettle to boil earlier I realised the main riff from What Difference Does It Make is the theme tune from HOW with the beat on a different place in bar.
― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 15:10 (eight years ago) link
What is HOW?
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XK0RImTvh0
Now soon, is HOW!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link