2008 Primaries Thread

vote morbs for ponies and rainbows and men-only debates

dudes you cant be more reagan than reagan - think abt it jeez

under the morbius administration, rainbow clad children riding ponies will be charged with meting out judiciously applied violence

Krauthammer as Sec'y of HHS

I read that as rainbow-clad children-riding-ponies

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
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VOTE DEMOCRATIC!
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The Clinton years were basically an adjustment period in the middle of a long stretch of Republican government, but least he wasn't a supply-sider. I mean, at least the economic policies of the Clinton administration were rational, even if they were Republican ones.

But, c'mon:
NAFTA
WTO
Deregulation
Welfare cutbacks
Accelerated divide between rich and poor

At least he wasn't a supply-sider.

Clinton was a worse (ie, more accomplished) Reagan than Reagan, loverman

ridiculous

-- o. nate, Friday,

dudest, the Telecommunications Act of 1995, the punitive hit on welfare welfare reform, the crime bill – the stuff of which Reaganism is made.

Might have been mentioned already but if not:

CNN announced Thursday that it will partner with the Ohio Democratic Party and the Ohio Republican Party for back-to-back presidential debates at the end of February.

With the race for each party nomination likely to extend beyond the February 5 Super Tuesday contests, it’s increasingly possible the critical battleground state of Ohio – which holds its presidential primary March 4, along with three other states — could very well determine the 2008 Democratic and Republican nominees.

...

The Democratic debate will take place Wednesday, February 27, while the Republican debate will follow on Thursday, February 28. The network said further details will be released soon.

Clinton was a more accomplished more Reagan than Herbert Walker, that's for sure.

yes, and a worse prez for it. (GHWB: toughest prez on Israel in my lifetime)

oh shit, re: ohio. i'm glad i've already begun the process of requesting an absentee ballot.

Maybe we should divert conversations about Israel away from the primaries thread. That could go sideways.

Alessandra Stanley should stick to reviewing the OC.

i expect ponies and rainbows if obama wins and stardust and marshmallows if hillary wins

Somerby is right that the American political press corps is reminiscent of nothing so much as the court at Versailles

but who can effectively court the crucial leprechaun vote?

somerby must be good at stating the blatantly obvious, then

btw, thanks, gff. that will forever be stamped in my head as the fighting dems logo.

we'll keep supplying the Versailles court with cake if we keep discussing idiocies like the HRC snub at the SOTU and Obama holding HRC's chair last night.

"Marge, you're my wife and I love you very much but you're living in a world of make believe with fairies and leprechauns and dancing frogs wearing fancy little hats"

if there was a Chris Matthews at Versailles, I wanna hear about it (actually, NO)

Unless one of these candidates can cure my alopecia and give me a 12" dong I'm going to vote Nader

dongs in every bunghole

or bungs in every – well, never mind.

Oh, you Dems pokin' my pinata... I hope you're still laughing on the Fifth of November, you cockeyed optimists!

(my twelver needs no help from the First Manager, thx)

lol ron paul

MORBIUS WHAT ARE YOU GOING ON ABOUT

Accelerated divide between rich and poor

hey this parts not actually true!

xp: YOU OF EARTH ARE IDIOTS

I think Clinton's policies on trade and welfare reform were good policies for the time. Deregulation probably went a bit too far under him. On taxes, Clinton probably did the best that could be expected, in the face of an intransigent Congress and an adverse political mood, by rolling back at least some of the Reagan tax cuts for the wealthy. I think the "Reagan lite" epithet only really carries a lot of zing if you think Reagan was the antichrist, not if you think, as I do, that he did some things right and took others too far, but that Clinton struck a better balance.

why are you upsetting paradigms, o. nate?

y'all are doing nothing to help the stereotype that liberals are a bunch of whining sissies.

jut cause i <3 marshmallows and rainbows doesnt make me a sissy

i mean you should see how upset i get if i dont have them

now, for a comedic interlude:

"For the first time ever, Al Franken is ahead of Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN) in an opinion poll."

Wait, is that true?

yea, via tpm election central

I found this: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/01/31/senatepoll/

I actually support Ciresi, and will be caucusing for him on Tues.

Oh, you Dems pokin' my pinata... I hope you're still laughing on the Fifth of November, you cockeyed optimists!

We're gonna wash that man...

We’re going to pick up that seat. If not Al Franken, than Michael Ciresi. I don’t think anyone believes Senator Coleman’s bipartisan image that he’s been promoting for the last few years.

We really need a rolling thread for the house and senate …

Alessandra Stanley should stick to reviewing the OC.

She doesn't even do things like that very well! I always end up wondering how she got a job at the NYT when I read her reviews, kind of like Calum writing for the Guardian.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/02/poll_al_franken_ahead_in_minne.php

Wow, that's great news.

"Alessandra Stanley" sounds like a Laura Linney character.

i just hope that last night's debate has rendered obsolete the idea that Obama can't go point-for-point with Clinton on detailed policy discussion.

seems like everyone is declaring obama the winner - which is just what he needs to roll up those edwards supporters and keep his mo running thru super tuesday

"keep his mo running" <-- waht

oh, momentum, nvr mind

i think obama needs another major endorsement to put him over the top for feb. 5. right now it's still pretty tight in most states, with clinton having slight leads

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