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HI DERE

― zappi (joni), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link

have any of you ever been to portland OR?

― hjfdkz, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link

This article reads like a long Onion piece. Is this shit serious?

― chad (chad), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck this guy. I'm 33, a father of two and this shit is so far removed from my reality it blows my mind. Have these people ever worked a day in their lives? Is a twat a twat forever?

― chad (chad), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link

haven't people been talking about 'middle youth' for years now?

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I am actually sitting here in a pair of snazzy new converses, an old gap hoodie and jeans and i'm 41. I never carry a carrier bag though. But why shouldn't I be comfortable?

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Over in England, they’re now calling them yindies

I've never heard anyone say this--people do use kidult though.

― Raw Patrick at work, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

no, i've never heard yindies, but 'kidult' and 'middle youth' were current at least as early as 1998.

― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Over in England we're calling them 'Nathan Barleys'

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Over in England we're calling them 'cunts'

― Raw Patrick at work, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen adultescent used.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link

That sounds like something from a paedo chatboard.

― Raw Patrick at work, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe that's where I saw it.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I am so not a cunt.
I think we're confusing two types here. There's the lovely, stay at home dad type who happens to use the internet and likes all kinds of music (country AND western), tries to keep up with what's going on and then there's the Nathan Barley types who are much younger, usually single, work in 'new media' and are, often, not very nice. Both tyoes where similar clothes possibly (trainers/jeans/etc.) but the later spend a much larger proportion of their income on their clothes than former because they don't have kids/mortgages/interior decorators to pay.
Or something.

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Typing too fast - it should be "types wear"...obv.

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link

“My mom bought me a cool shirt/When I wear it, I’m...”

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

This whole thing kinda reminds me of the crowds that show up to all the KCRW sponsored shows in LA.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

In the end, these people are just aspiring to be hipster jackasses. Keep reaching for those stars in the gutter.

Wow. Nei1 Pol1ack is a fucking idiot.

― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/images/img_3932.JPG

― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

ahhh, the passage of time....
can ya hear it????
i can.
it sounds like a train.

― eedd, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah but least Alex doesn't have the Motorhead shirt on the kid...

― Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

tiresome new york mag article ridiculing people not quite as boring as they are = classic!!

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The only thing is, why is the article just focused on hipster's "kidult" fashion....pretty much everybody dresses in jeans and t-shirts now outside of work....he could say the same thing abt. 38 yr old dudes w/kids walking around with the Larry the Cable Guy "Git R Done" shirt...I mean, Americans dress like shit, everybody dresses casual....I even notice this w.my sisters family, I think the whole family all listen to the same contemporary country like that Sugarland (???) band and Kenny Chesney that my 4-yr-old neice does...this stuff exists outside of manhattan.*

*my bro-in-law never wears larry the cable guy shirts, just to clarify, he has nice clothes.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

(of course though I forget that to new yorkers the entire planet is manhattan so i shouldn't really be surprised)

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

This article is spot on. Every male over the age of 30 should be forced to take up pipe-smoking, listen to Bing Crosby, and wear jackets with leather patches on the elbows.

― Frederic P., Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate New York.

― Sean Braudis (Sean Braudis), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Thirty and fortysomethings have always worn jeans and teeshirts and been into bands etc etc. The people who should be roundly mocked are the twentysomethings who haven't had the imagination to come up with their own fucking dress styles, music genres etc etc.

― Max Boot, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I read until I hit this sentence: "This generation is now, if you happen to be under 25, more interested in being stuck in your youth."

Does that mean I can act indignant until I hit 25 this month, then try to act discreetly?

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

dudes will i still be NOIZE when i hit 30?

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone even read New York any longer? It's almost gone under because of low reader numbers and newsstand sales a few times, right? So shouldn't this awful journalism be disregarded?

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

David Edelstein writes for them now, IIRC.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Sharing your interests with your kids = classic.
Trying to turn them into little mini-hipsters to cover for your own insecurity about encroaching middle age = dud.
$800 fucking strollers = total dud.

― mike a, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

NY Mag got a LOT better since they got bought out and Moss became editor. There's always two or three things in every issue along these lines that make you want to corral every rich white person in Manhattan and burn them to death, but a lot of the rest of it is actually worth reading, at least in the bathroom.

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

what about the "trend" of kids under 25 wearing nirvana and jimi hendrix t-shirts? are they young fogeys? yogeys?

$800 fucking strollers = total dud.

yeah the bugaboo thing is pretty silly. but i will say that for city living, a good stroller is worth spending some cash on. we had to upgrade because the lightweight one we bought first was probably fine for mall-walking but lacked the all-terrain capacity necessary for navigating new york sidewalks. we don't have to have a car here, so i don't mind springing for a pricey pram.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

how is this a new phenomenon again? I was in high school in the mid-to-late 90s and EVERYBODY listened to Zeppelin, Hendrix, Floyd, and the Doors. yeah, and we really broke new ground with Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

It pissed me off then too!

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"This is an obituary for the generation gap."

HUH? are these people bisexual, spend all their time on myspace trying to get laid and have no interest in politics WHATSOEVER? do they listen to panic at the disco? hawthorne heights?

I am going to assume the author himself is a grup? get over it dude, grow the fuck up and call your grandpa, for chrissake. and your music is music for wet blankets.

― banana squad (dayvidday), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't front, I loved that shit too. Too bad I didn't have a "cool" dad to introduce me to the Silver Apples and Os Mutantes.
xpost.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it sounds like a train

the "r" (also the indef.article) 's optional, methinks really.

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

God damn I miss that Nick Sylvester thread.

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

tiresome new york mag article ridiculing people not quite as boring as they are = classic!!

except it's called Up with Grups and it winds up pretty much approving of them

― ooops, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

What a disgusting article. That said, my three year old's favorite album recently has been Andy Votel's Welsh Rare Beat compilation (that's not cool people, it's sensitivity and potty training issues). We also have designated babysitters for concert nights who don't mind staying half the night. The best stroller I ever purchased was $15, suckers. Maybe I'm a psuedo-grup.

Thank god I don't have to raise my kids in New York.

― Mai, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Every male over the age of 30 should be forced to take up pipe-smoking, listen to Bing Crosby, and wear jackets with leather patches on the elbows."

i'm not completely adverse to this idea!
so long as the monocule (sp?) and a brandy snifter involved, and the setting of a den w/ a fire- i'm there!

tally ho, chaps!!!

― eedd, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

well it's not like i actually read it or anything

xpost

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone even read New York any longer?

You know - at $1.50 a word, I don't really care! BWAHAHAHAHA

― understandably logged-out regulat, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not reading that (plus I'm too non-spendy, old and curmudgeonly to be a grup) but it's nice to see the Nils mentioned ANYWHERE.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

"BWAHAHAHAHA"

i'd know that evil laugh anywhere.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

So going solely by the photos that accompanied the article, I gotta assume this is a 100 percent white phenomenon.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I need to scan and post that picture of me in my Jo Jo Gunne onesie.

― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

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uh, no thanks

-- team jaxon (jaso...), April 4th, 2006 11:14 PM. (jaxon) (link)

OTM

Good thread, though. I'm 32 and fit some of the descriptions, but I don't have a kid.

― josh in sf (stfu kthx), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

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