TS: Scott, Scott 2, Scott 3, or Scott 4

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Bowie's been open about the Scott Walker love for decades, wisely so. Arguably he was a lodestone for Bowie no matter how often the latter's career was seen to be shifting.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

ok, well i still think he knew "seventh seal" was the worst idea, or the least subtle song.
Maybe he thought it had more crossover appeal with it's seemingly engineered elements of ante and maybe it was an earlier model of the wild west narrative, like a walker brothers americanism deployed again on the english. But maybe that's too cynical too.
Maybe he just knew a ripping yarn didn't match the intense heart of the album, but maybe said yarn is meant to draw the listener in

and ok yes, maybe he did want a bergman dedication/ allusion.

I think, for whatever reason, it belongs (out of the way) as the first track, although it probably doesn't belong at all for many, and yeah ok, i agree, he _probably_ _was_ a completely a young idealist.

thank goodness Ady Semel was there to at least help the seemingly drained Scott produce at least a few more good songs (and david bowie! to try carrying the torch -- maybe he should cover more Scott songs and help out with the royalties somemore)

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

i've only heard the four scott songs on nite flights, and they are disturbing and intense, my favourite stuff of his after ".. band comes in" -- how do the efforts of the other two Walkers on nite flights stack up against this stuff ?

The John Walker songs are just abysmal from memory but some of the Gary Walker songs are quite interesting - if only he could sing but he most certainly can't.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

I whimsically bought re-issued Walker Bros. "Images" out of interest in the Engel contributions, including some b-sides. These early Scott songs could certainly be called "experiments" that might belong on a Scott mix-cd along with his originals from 1 & 2.

The cd booklet contained an image of Bowie's "War Child" charity art piece from '97, where ".. famous celebrities .. all homages to .. other musicians .. they considered to be a big influence on their work".
This art consisted of a lightbox containing 3 x-rayed skulls and six eyes (a curious Residents coincidence). There are two side-view skulls on the two sides of this box and one forward facing central skull, presumably Skott, the brains of the operation.
The eyes mystify me. OK we all know about David's special eye, but was the Walkers' invasion of Britain really in part due to tricky eyes ? It seemed a rather self-aggrandizing feature from Bowie's art otherwise, epecially as of all things Walker to leave out it left out their ears.

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 19 February 2004 05:38 (twenty years ago) link

oh, another post reminded me of this other influence (that horrible word)
maybe problems people have with "the seventh seal" simply boil down to it sounding too much like a benny hill song

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 19 February 2004 05:53 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

3.

by a mile.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

4 is definitely the best for me, I really love "On Your Own Again" and "Boy Child", but I've become really fond of 3 over the past year, you gotta love "It's Raining Today" and "Big Louise"

Jimmy James Inc, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

3. Even though the best parts of 1 and 2 is a better album.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

lol 'The Amorous Humphrey Plugg' just popped up on random play

'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Oh man, it's all I can do not to play Scott's stuff day after day after day...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks to facebook, I only JUST learned about the song The Plague. Can you imagine, having known Scott's 1 - 4 (and side A of 'Til the Band) by heart and obsessing for years and suddenly learning there was another song? I don't know how I missed it.

dan selzer, Friday, 4 May 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link

...containing the immortal couplet "It's all so vague/When you meet the plague".

hugo_w, Friday, 4 May 2012 05:54 (eleven years ago) link

That's awesome, Dan! I'm jealous! It was there from the beginning for me as my first Scott purchase was the Boy Child compilation.

(In a bookend kind of way, I assume you know about his track on 4AD's Plague Songs comp?)

This is a pretty great Scott thread that I've never noticed before. My answer is, resoundingly, Scott 3. Wally Stott ftw.

bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

The Plague is the first Scott Walker solo song I heard, it got me hooked.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

interesting timing for the thread revival as i was thinking about this the other day and concluded that Scott 3 is probably top 5 of all time for me. Scott 4 is a bit too cavalier for me in parts, whereas Scott 2 doesn't quite connect with me the whole way through. Scott 3 has the perfect balance of introspection and storytelling and is capable of moving me in unique ways.

charlie h, Saturday, 5 May 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

yes

dan selzer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 07:28 (eleven years ago) link


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