Good Charlotte: Classic or Dud?

Chuck, you (and Xgau) basically summed up my feelings on Avril Lavigne. Stay tuned to SOTC in the coming weeks...

As for GC, they're neither classic nor dud IMO.

I have already talked about these guys enough.

A good point, and one I'll swiftly support, though Rancid themselves copped their whole aesthetic from the Exploited et al.

Oh come on.

They took their HAIRCUTS from the Exploited, if that. (Or do the Exploited have all kindsa sweet pretty melodies I've never heard?) And how original were the Exploited anyway? (Actually, if "et. al." means "the Clash and Specials", tho, you might have a point. Though those bands copped big chunks of their aesthetic from Slade and Desmond Dekker, I guess. Who might not have been originals, either.)

And Third Eye Blind are better than the Exploited were, anyway. (Tho
not better than the 4 Skins or Rudimentary Peni, maybe. I forget.)

Well thats the only explenation about them that makes sense. but one problem remains, the first thing that hit my mind was how awful was that track, how bands like Lit and Sugar Ray did it much better(i ain't no fan of Lit and Sugar Ray).

And Lit always seemed like horrific assholes
I'll second that.

I should've been clearer -- Rancid appropriated their *VISUAL* style from the Exploited et al. ("et al" meaning GBH, Crass, Discharge, etc.)

(Or do the Exploited have all kindsa sweet pretty melodies I've never heard?)

Uh....no, not really, although "sweet" and "pretty" are conceivably relative terms.

And how original were the Exploited anyway?

Well, they probably owe Sham 69 a debt or two....

(Actually, if "et. al." means "the Clash and Specials", tho, you might have a point.

Rancid completely owe their *SOUND* to those two bands, you are spot-on, Chuck!

Though those bands copped big chunks of their aesthetic from Slade and Desmond Dekker, I guess.

Not quite sure about the Slade part (weren't the Clash bigger fans of Mott than Slade?) but yeah....

And Third Eye Blind are better than the Exploited were, anyway. (Tho not better than the 4 Skins or Rudimentary Peni, maybe. I forget.)

Well, Third Eye Blind and the Exploited are completely apples and oranges -- they make very different musics for very different audiences predisosed to different emotions, sensibilities, etc. But, strictly as "music as universal language," Third Eye Blind are probably a good deal more capable than the Exploited of a broader range of musical options.

Rudimentary Peni are, in their own little community, vastly overrated.

Carey, who gave you asshole pills today? You like the Doves. Nyeh.

Carey, you're a not-even-heard-the-whole-album-would-like-them-if-they-were-tall-british-guys-with-big-eyes-asshole. :p

Theoretically. But the gang shouts (and the reggae, believe it or not), were presaged by Slade, not Mott (who I love, don't get me wrong.) "All the Young Punks" does have something or other in common with "All the Young Dudes," though, I suppose. I just forget what.

The older I get (38) the more I think rock/pop/punk whatever hit it's peak in the late 70's - early 80's. I'll take the Clash and the Ramones and Stiff Little Fingers over any of the popular music today.

This is my favorite sentence of the whole thread.

What's wrong with Number Of the Beast? You don't like "Hallowed Be Thy Name"?

My first Maiden album was Seventh Son of a Seventh Son.

And Iron Maiden are the kings of suck, there are none higher, sucker thrash bands should call them sire.

Okay Anthony, now I'm REALLY going to tease you. Iron Maiden the kings of suck???? They are the epitome of 80s virtuoso demon metal! I will have a soft spot for any group that does songs about Satan, dogfighting and epic poetry with musicians trained at the Royal Academy.