C or D: David O. Selznick's 1939 production of "Gone with the Wind"

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I didn't say I hated it, I said I don't want to sit through the whole thing.

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

the counter argument is that movies were really new and no one knew how to make them worth shit - creative types labored under a highly restrictive studio system - and actors were all trained for stage and/or silent films

ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

is this the most hyped film ever, pre and post release?

Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"Titanic" has it beat, I imagine.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

rock hardy you must experience the majesty of gone with the wind in its entirety to understand how truly bad it is

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

cos certainly, when judged against all that, it falls far short. but just as a flick it's pretty dece.

Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

1939 era of hype competing with Batman-as-Hamlet synergy, LOL

Too much of anything, even ice crӕm, can def be a bad thing.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

the counter argument is that movies were really new and no one knew how to make them worth shit - creative types labored under a highly restrictive studio system - and actors were all trained for stage and/or silent films

oy vey

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

let's talk more about the free, enlightened, and supportive environment of today's hollywood. I'm glad that restrictive studio system was done away with.

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I think modern audiences have a hard time relating to Casablanca and GWTW as they're about adults.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I read GWTW when I was in . . . 10th? 1th? grade, and it was fine. Saw the movie shortly thereafter and don't see any need to ever see it again. Fuck a Confederacy.

Casablanca I first saw in a film appreciation class in college. I own the DVD and can watch it pretty much anytime. Never gets old.

Pancakes Hackman, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

"1th" = "11th"

Pancakes Hackman, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Casablanca I have seen all the way through, twice, and I love it. There are just a lot of little things about GWTW that add up to "no thanks."

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

mostly old movie buffs are pining for a nonexistent time gone by with the wind - these movies are simple and obvious - easy to understand

ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

When did this thread turn to shit? Is ice craem Leslie Howard?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

he could be... Nude Spock?

Some Marxist-blogger thoughts on racism in the film and novel:

http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2006/08/01/gone-with-the-wind/

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

he does have a point though, let's get back to the hegelian complexity that is tropic thunder

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

shouldnt this thread be in ilf lol

ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Acting in a lot of modern films is "natural" and bad, thx Actors Studio.

so you saw paranoid park?

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Before the Devil Knows Albert Finney Asphyxiated P.S. Hoffman is what I was thinking of, first.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

shouldnt this thread be in ilf lol

would you stop posting in it then?

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i will if you all agree to stay in ilf

ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

and take all the alexs w/u

ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

what do you mean by "you people"?

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

he means, he's the foreman at Tara.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Dud because Olivia de Havilland just *won't die* and is ruining the success of my ILX Dead Pool '08, damnit!

JTS, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

ODH's only good film was The Heiress.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

truth juice all over this thread thanks to ice cream

special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

it must've run out of his ear.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

just what this thread needed, truth juice

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

It's antioxidant.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

It tastes like ham croquettes.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

tmi

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

what do you mean by "you people"?

What do you mean by "you people"?

(/Tropic Thunder)

Pancakes Hackman, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

For Alfred:

http://artless.lilting.org/caps_gwtw/images/gwtw0175.jpg

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

*rolls eyes at this thread*

max, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

but max, we were waiting for an "I'd hit it" post re Belle Watling!

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Remember when CBS would make a big deal out of running Gone With the Wind and Wizard of Oz each year? Before videotape, it was the only way most viewers could see these movies.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

the Burnett show's spoof of GWTW was tied to its TV debut -- in 1976.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't see it, Morbs. If it's a croquette, you're 10 minutes too late.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

these spoiled punks today, I remember when culture meant watching a jumpy 8mm print of nosferatu projected on a torn bedsheet

xxp

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

thread now indistinguishable from society is in the gutter

Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

is this the most hyped film ever, pre and post release?
-- Frogman Henry, Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:23 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

"Titanic" has it beat, I imagine.
-- Pashmina, Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:24 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Naw, Titanic only had, at best, about nine months' worth of pre-release buzz-engineering. GWTW was out there years (years!) before it was released.

Eric H., Tuesday, 26 August 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Star Wars prequels or Lord of the Rings, then.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

it'd be hard to compete with the hype around the orig release of GWTW, but it was 193fkn9 and culture was a lot less dense then

goole, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean dense and in dense, not dense as in stupid.

the book was a massive massive hit

goole, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Great, now I'm wondering what GWTW viral marketing would have been like.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

franklymydear.org

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

ts: gone with the wind vs birth of a nation vs song of the south

J.D., Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

It knocked "Gold Diggers of Broadway" off the top of then "highest-grossing movie ever" pile IIRC, which it had held since 1929.

This is more often said of The Singing Fool, Al Jolson's 1928 part-talkie follow-up to The Jazz Singer. And it seems as if it beat out Gold Diggers of Broadway just slightly. But according to MGM records, Ben-Hur and The Big Parade (both 1925) outgrossed them both.

That "GDoBW" (which sounds like it was a total blast) only exists in fragmentary form, while you can buy a lavish restored DVD of "GwtW" seems like some kind of cosmic injustice to me.

You can see some of those fragments on the three-disc DVD box of The Jazz Singer released last year which is quite possibly the best DVD set I've ever encountered. Pretty lavish too.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link


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