I didn't say I hated it, I said I don't want to sit through the whole thing.
― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
the counter argument is that movies were really new and no one knew how to make them worth shit - creative types labored under a highly restrictive studio system - and actors were all trained for stage and/or silent films
― ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
is this the most hyped film ever, pre and post release?
― Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
"Titanic" has it beat, I imagine.
― Pashmina, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
rock hardy you must experience the majesty of gone with the wind in its entirety to understand how truly bad it is
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
cos certainly, when judged against all that, it falls far short. but just as a flick it's pretty dece.
― Frogman Henry, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
1939 era of hype competing with Batman-as-Hamlet synergy, LOL
Too much of anything, even ice crӕm, can def be a bad thing.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
oy vey
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
let's talk more about the free, enlightened, and supportive environment of today's hollywood. I'm glad that restrictive studio system was done away with.
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I think modern audiences have a hard time relating to Casablanca and GWTW as they're about adults.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I read GWTW when I was in . . . 10th? 1th? grade, and it was fine. Saw the movie shortly thereafter and don't see any need to ever see it again. Fuck a Confederacy.
Casablanca I first saw in a film appreciation class in college. I own the DVD and can watch it pretty much anytime. Never gets old.
― Pancakes Hackman, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link
"1th" = "11th"
Casablanca I have seen all the way through, twice, and I love it. There are just a lot of little things about GWTW that add up to "no thanks."
― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
mostly old movie buffs are pining for a nonexistent time gone by with the wind - these movies are simple and obvious - easy to understand
― ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
When did this thread turn to shit? Is ice craem Leslie Howard?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
he could be... Nude Spock?
Some Marxist-blogger thoughts on racism in the film and novel:
http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2006/08/01/gone-with-the-wind/
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
he does have a point though, let's get back to the hegelian complexity that is tropic thunder
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
shouldnt this thread be in ilf lol
― ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Acting in a lot of modern films is "natural" and bad, thx Actors Studio.
so you saw paranoid park?
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Before the Devil Knows Albert Finney Asphyxiated P.S. Hoffman is what I was thinking of, first.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link
would you stop posting in it then?
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i will if you all agree to stay in ilf
― ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
and take all the alexs w/u
― ice crӕm, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link
what do you mean by "you people"?
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
he means, he's the foreman at Tara.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Dud because Olivia de Havilland just *won't die* and is ruining the success of my ILX Dead Pool '08, damnit!
― JTS, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
ODH's only good film was The Heiress.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
truth juice all over this thread thanks to ice cream
― special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link
it must've run out of his ear.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
just what this thread needed, truth juice
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
It's antioxidant.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link
It tastes like ham croquettes.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link
tmi
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link
What do you mean by "you people"?
(/Tropic Thunder)
― Pancakes Hackman, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
For Alfred:
http://artless.lilting.org/caps_gwtw/images/gwtw0175.jpg
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
*rolls eyes at this thread*
― max, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
but max, we were waiting for an "I'd hit it" post re Belle Watling!
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Remember when CBS would make a big deal out of running Gone With the Wind and Wizard of Oz each year? Before videotape, it was the only way most viewers could see these movies.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link
the Burnett show's spoof of GWTW was tied to its TV debut -- in 1976.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't see it, Morbs. If it's a croquette, you're 10 minutes too late.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
these spoiled punks today, I remember when culture meant watching a jumpy 8mm print of nosferatu projected on a torn bedsheet
xxp
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
thread now indistinguishable from society is in the gutter
― Edward III, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link
is this the most hyped film ever, pre and post release? -- Frogman Henry, Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:23 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
"Titanic" has it beat, I imagine. -- Pashmina, Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:24 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link
Naw, Titanic only had, at best, about nine months' worth of pre-release buzz-engineering. GWTW was out there years (years!) before it was released.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 August 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Star Wars prequels or Lord of the Rings, then.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
it'd be hard to compete with the hype around the orig release of GWTW, but it was 193fkn9 and culture was a lot less dense then
― goole, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean dense and in dense, not dense as in stupid.
the book was a massive massive hit
Great, now I'm wondering what GWTW viral marketing would have been like.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
franklymydear.org
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
ts: gone with the wind vs birth of a nation vs song of the south
― J.D., Tuesday, 26 August 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
It knocked "Gold Diggers of Broadway" off the top of then "highest-grossing movie ever" pile IIRC, which it had held since 1929.
This is more often said of The Singing Fool, Al Jolson's 1928 part-talkie follow-up to The Jazz Singer. And it seems as if it beat out Gold Diggers of Broadway just slightly. But according to MGM records, Ben-Hur and The Big Parade (both 1925) outgrossed them both.
That "GDoBW" (which sounds like it was a total blast) only exists in fragmentary form, while you can buy a lavish restored DVD of "GwtW" seems like some kind of cosmic injustice to me.
You can see some of those fragments on the three-disc DVD box of The Jazz Singer released last year which is quite possibly the best DVD set I've ever encountered. Pretty lavish too.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link