Best David Bowie Guitarist

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And the bass line on Walk on the Wild side?

What?

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link

I listened to Diamond Dogs for the first time in 25 years yesterday, and was surprised at how well Bowie plays on it. I forget which song it is (and it's not the one Alan Parker plays on), but he does a solo and I realized, "oh right, that's Bowie! He's pretty good!"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

/And the bass line on Walk on the Wild side?/

What?


Surely that's Herbie Flowers.

Blecch Country Rickroll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

Unless he wrote it.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

According to Strange Fascination, Ronson attending those sessions with Reed and Bowie and came up with that line during the recording. There were some other funny bits about Lou complaining that he couldn't understand anything Mick said due to his thick accent.

Darin, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

I really like Ronson but he was a pretty basic guitarist.
so Alomar I guess (although not voting for Nile in a best guitarist poll is sacrilege !).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

and yeah, I don't think he actually performed the bass line - he just wrote it.

Darin, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

Mick Ronson, for guitar, piano, string arrangements.

sure but the poll is only about the guitar, isn't it ?

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

and yeah, I don't think he actually performed the bass line - he just wrote it.

Flowers takes credit for it on the DVD doc about Transformer

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

...and elsewhere, and given other amazing and weird lines he's played and written (Jump Into the Fire for one) I tend to believe him.

Three Word Username, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

Belew is going to get robbed here, but it's his own fault for everything he's done post-Thrak.

Three Word Username, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

I generally like Belew with Bowie, but hearing him do the "Stay" riff in '78 makes me ia. He's trying to quirky-it-up -- an admirable impulse in general, but it really doesn't suit the "Stay" riff at all.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 February 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link

alomar >>>>>>

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 1 February 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link

Non-Fripp answers not computing.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 1 February 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link

fripp sure is great at standing at precise distances away from his amp but alomar is an unparalleled rhythm guitarist and imo should win this just for inventing the "fame" riff

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 1 February 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link

Definitely Alomar, I even forgive him for Glass Spider and the two-handed fretboard tapping craziness.

Michael Jones, Monday, 1 February 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link

probably alomar for versitility and longevity.

fripp and belew for sheer inventiveness

earl slick for being a great mimic for all these parts other people wrote

david torn did nice work on heathen, instantly recognizable to me in "sunday", not sure if people are aware of or into his ECM record with Levin and Bruford but I loved it, it's like an alternate universe ECM Crimson.

akm, Monday, 1 February 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link

Dunno why I didn't include Slick.

Definitely Alomar, I even forgive him for Glass Spider and the two-handed fretboard tapping craziness.

― Michael Jones,

Poor guy. He was sick of never getting credit and now he had to share it with Frampton.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 February 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link

Alomar. Didn't even have to think about it. Brilliant guitarist.

flappy bird, Monday, 1 February 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link

Earl Slick, because everyone else will vote for Ronno and Alomar, and I love how he plays

Iago Galdston, Monday, 1 February 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Earl Slick zing New Zealand style

Toof Seteltha (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 February 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Alomar, then Fripp, then Ronson.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

The answer is Mick Ronson, you guys are overthinking this

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 February 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

did bowie or ronson write the riff for Ziggy Stardust? if it was ronson, i regret my vote

flappy bird, Monday, 1 February 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Saw this in a pub the other day, guess he did ok for having his arm amputated above the elbow.

http://i.imgur.com/BhmZqOc.jpg

ledge, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link

I really hope that album was called Blood is Slicker Than Water

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:48 (eight years ago) link

or maybe Slick to Your Stomach

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

Slick as a Brick

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

slick of the fwitch

mookieproof, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link

Slick as a Dog

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link

In Slickness and in Health

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link

Slick up your ears

ledge, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link

Slicking in the Seventies

Oil Slick

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

Down With the Slickness

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 February 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

Ugh...I Think I'm Gonna Be Slick

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 1 February 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link

^^^winner

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 February 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link

The Earl of Slick

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 February 2016 22:01 (eight years ago) link

Touch Me I'm Slick

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 February 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link

This has to be ALOMAR!

Turrican, Monday, 1 February 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link

Alomar, aside from being a wonderful guitarist and, from the sounds of it, a down-to-earth guy also has a wonderful surname which sounds like some kind of battle cry when shouted at loud volumes... ALOMAAAAAAAAAAR! You could shout it when chopping down trees as a replacement for the well-worn "TIMBEEEEEEER!", or even when you've teed off that seriously hot drive on the golf course... *sound of golf club hitting ball* "ALOMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!"

Turrican, Monday, 1 February 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link

Like, um, Remember The Alomar?

Blecch Country Rickroll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 February 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mabdrqcdMo1qa2sgk.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

If this is the direction this thread is going, take a look at some of the names up there... we could be here until (Keith) Christmas.

Michael Jones, Monday, 1 February 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link

No G.E. Smith?

Loved him on the Scary Monsters era stuff.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 1 February 2016 23:06 (eight years ago) link

He nails Ronson's Life On Mars solo here on Carson (~2m25s):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkefglL9c4c

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 1 February 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link

... but yeah that is a pretty amazing Ashes to Ashes too, he & Carlos have great interplay.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 1 February 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

If this is the direction this thread is going, take a look at some of the names up there... we could be here until (Keith) Christmas.

― Michael Jones, Monday, February 1, 2016 11:00 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd like to propose "Tony Viscunti", which is what you'd get if you crossed the world famous producer of several David Bowie records with mattresslessness.

Turrican, Monday, 1 February 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link

or "Dave Grohl" bc you are the Dave Grohl of ilx

Toof Seteltha (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 February 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link

No G.E. Smith?

I couldn't find any info verifying that he played on any albums. I was under the impression he just toured with Bowie.

Darin, Monday, 1 February 2016 23:16 (eight years ago) link

Copied cheekily by Fripp pal Andy Summers on "Mother."

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 February 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link

Sund4r, I asked the guitarist in question and while he acknowledged the possibility of other notes he hadn't listened on headphones yet so was just playing a straight Bb chord.

I wasn't part of that discussion tbh but maybe I'll take a listen some time. Cool that you got to talk to him, though. I'm listening to Tirtha right now.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 7 February 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link

I've seen it (and it sounds like) Bb(#11)/A = x03330. So I guess like a B with the open A string ringing?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 February 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Haven't heard that album, Sund4r. Prasanna said he had never paid much attention to Bowie but when Blackstar came out he knew some of the cats who played on it - he had once had Jason Lindner come out to that music school he used to run in Chennai- so he finally tuned in. His wife was already a fan so she helped him go through the catalogue. He had some good players in the band I was unfamiliar with, particularly Swiss-Indian keyboard player Manu Koch, but also an electric bass player named Steve Jenkins.

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 February 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

OK so I'm the sole vote for Reeves?

― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Wednesday, February 3, 2016 4:49 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nope

some dude, Sunday, 7 February 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

Hm. Assume that keyboard player is part Indian due to his name, but web only says Swiss. Anyway sorry for the derail, back to Fripp et al.

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 February 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

Saw the Five Years doc last night and Carlos walks it. Not just, it appears, a lovely human being but someone versatile enough to come on board for Young Americans and stick around until Scary Monsters, playing equally well alongside Earl Slick and Robert Fripp. The bit where he demonstrates how he wrote the guitar parts for Fame is a joy.

Fripp seemed like a very strange man. I've never seen him interviewed before. Like someone constantly enjoying a malevolent private joke.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 8 February 2016 12:11 (eight years ago) link

Whoever said on the RIP thread that Fripp's speaking style had been greatly influenced by his sister is dead right (or perhaps it's mutual). Patricia Fripp is a professional speech coach and I'm sure some of those techniques (say something...stop...wait for it to sink in...don't elaborate...DO YOU SEE) are great for sales teams, pretty jarring for a docu talking head.

Michael Jones, Monday, 8 February 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Alomar is great in that doc. I also like the anecdote about how Bowie named the song following Lennon's groal.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 13:18 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Carlos Alomar - the non solo solo on Look Back In Anger is such a great moment.

Also LOL at Earl Slick Band's album titles.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 06:07 (eight years ago) link

"Copied cheekily by Fripp pal Andy Summers on "Mother.""

holy shit I never noticed this!

akm, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFBZQXMAhek

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

I can hang with that top 3 p. hard

Davey D, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link

lol @ Bowie outranking Gabrels, deservedly.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link

Alphabetically

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link

Glad to see somebody voted for Stevie Ray. I despise him with the exception of Let's Dance, in which he's perfect.

Taking dumps on a person's car is something children do (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 02:13 (eight years ago) link

It's early, but is that exactly 100 votes?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 07:55 (eight years ago) link

it is!

niels, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 09:33 (eight years ago) link

oh yes, Carlos !
sad for Nile... (and who voted for Lenny Kravitz ??)

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 09:40 (eight years ago) link

true, Nile got robbed - maybe there's been a saturation in the public awareness or smth

niels, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 09:50 (eight years ago) link

Poor Adrian Belew too - he had to reproduce all those Fripperies live, y'know. No multi-tracks, no Eno processing. A pony-tail really does cost you about 10 votes around here, doesn't it?

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 10:46 (eight years ago) link

entirely as it should be

carly rae jetson (thomp), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 11:13 (eight years ago) link

Belew is the only Bowie guitarist I've seen live and he did all kinds of mad shreddy-shuddery things to "Stay" but otherwise mostly behaved himself ;)

For years I was convinced they'd played "Pretty Pink Rose" in what was supposed to be a greatest hits set (Sound and Vision Tour) but I'd conflated the Milton Keynes show (which I'd heard on radio) with the Manchester show (which I attended). Still, half-a-point off for that.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 11:17 (eight years ago) link

earl slick got robbed too

niels, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 11:26 (eight years ago) link

dave grohl as well

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link

they did play pretty pink rose on the sound and vision tour.

akm, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 14:29 (eight years ago) link

Sorry, wasn't clear - they did play it in Milton Keynes, but not in Manchester. But, as the years have passed, I'd convinced myself they'd pissed away five minutes of a tight 90min Manchester set on PPR (the gig I actually went to).

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 16:05 (eight years ago) link

Voted Gabrels because imo he's the most inventive guitarist of the bunch, and gets extra favour from me for not only being great on my favourite Bowie album "Outside" and being wonderful on "Earthling"-- the solo on "Dead Man Walking" is along with Fripp on "It's No Game" and Alomar on "Golden Years" my favourite guitar thing in Bowie's catalog-- but also being the only positive thing about so many of the worst albums

got a long list of ILXors (fgti), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link

Voted Gabrels because imo he's the most inventive guitarist of the bunch

http://www.imagesbuddy.com/images/83/2013/08/lol-rainbow-graphic.gif

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

Apropos, my Discover Weekly playlist this week features Tin Machine's cover of "Working Class Hero" which is definitely a "go slow, rail damaged" section of the program.

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

which are the worst albums? tin machine ii?

carly rae jetson (thomp), Friday, 12 February 2016 04:11 (eight years ago) link

I thought I'd give the Tin Machine albums a proper go because revisionism is fun but, boringly, I hated them. Even the alleged highlights are pretty rotten.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 12 February 2016 12:10 (eight years ago) link

I understand that live Tim Machine album is particularly bad although I've never sat through any of them. I need a decent "best of" mix spanning from "Tonight" to "Reality".

Darin, Friday, 12 February 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

I've made a Spotify playlist from Tonight to Blackstar.

http://open.spotify.com/user/dorianlynskey/playlist/1B8GjBVqemjDbJQuFqM6Yv

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 18 February 2016 17:13 (eight years ago) link

Interesting. Thanks!

Have I The Right Profile? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 February 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link

I've made a Spotify playlist from Tonight to Blackstar.

http://open.spotify.com/user/dorianlynskey/playlist/1B8GjBVqemjDbJQuFqM6Yv

― impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, February 19, 2016 4:13 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


The next song-a-day thread?

Vernon Locke, Thursday, 18 February 2016 23:28 (eight years ago) link

Awesome! Thanks!!

Darin, Friday, 19 February 2016 03:58 (eight years ago) link


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