Now Is The Winter Of Our Dusty-dusty 2015/2016, What Are You Reading Now?

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Bad Behaviour was one of my great discoveries of last year. "Heaven," in particular, is shattering.

pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Monday, 25 January 2016 01:40 (eight years ago) link

fizzles, rs' dad's telegraph obituary is worth reading

smoothy doles it (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 January 2016 02:12 (eight years ago) link

Fizzles probably knows these already, but the Strugatsky Brothers (ie Hard to Be a God, Roadside Picnic) are great. There's a Theodore Sturgeon-edited Soviet SF anthology that's also very good.

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Monday, 25 January 2016 03:29 (eight years ago) link

Don't think I'd ever read any Gaitskill before the (sensitive, empath, even) onslaught of Because They Wanted To, femme top and all. This is back when I was reading nothing but short stories---no novels, that is; couldn't take the time to get that involved---but What a collection. That's what got me back into contemporary fiction.
Another unexpected express ride, just recently: Amazon's Look Inside option gave me a whole amazingly compressed, eloquent essay from The Essential Ellen Willis: born in 1941 to intelligent, educated blue collar parents in Queens, her childhood ambition is to be a smart, successful, no-BS man---and a dish, an adorable woman of the world. So there she is at 20, receiving her degree---and already married, despite her reservations. Wants to be a Writer--but off to Africa, because hubbie accepts a job there, working for Uncle Sam. Still, she had a glimpse in Berkeley: she secretly considers herself an anarchist, in the gestalt/consciousness-raising sense: no good to be a libertarian if you can't liberate the minds nad bodies of (insert your own example the budding Koch brothers,for instance) among many other self-styled radicals who want to replace one kind of authortarianism with another whether they realize it or not. And: many, though certainly not all, of these people are---men.
She never uses sexism as an alibi, but does, in a few pages, map her own experience, and others observed, in trying to find a way through the conundrums and double binds of gender roles-- via Relationship, office and/or antiwar movement politics---up through the year of publication, 1969. The ending is in mid-flight, mid-war.
Talent and professional skills are required to write like this, but you can't really write like this: you write your own version of it, if and when you can live it, passionately and and compulsively and coherently truthfully enough to testify.

dow, Monday, 25 January 2016 04:42 (eight years ago) link

Also with more punctuation (sorry).

dow, Monday, 25 January 2016 04:47 (eight years ago) link

Stewart had at times considered a parliamentary career. He had discussed with friends an idea that might help prepare him: he would live in a housing project for two or three years, to better understand British poverty. (It frustrates him that he never did this.)

smoothy doles it (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 January 2016 10:39 (eight years ago) link

As a student, Stewart liked to turn the mundane into the extraordinary: when he wounded his hand on a broken champagne bottle, he asked to be stitched without anesthesia. Emily Bearn, a British journalist, has written of an evening in Oxford, when he wandered into a room and recited poetry while she was throwing up into a wastebasket.

smoothy doles it (nakhchivan), Monday, 25 January 2016 11:22 (eight years ago) link

#wildTimes

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 January 2016 11:30 (eight years ago) link

ppl got very into his speech about hedgehogs.

I think I basically like having him around.

woof, Monday, 25 January 2016 12:07 (eight years ago) link

That Middleland thing he and the BBC cobbled together in the middle of the Scottish independence referendum was a right load of old pony though.

The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Monday, 25 January 2016 12:35 (eight years ago) link

thanks for the recommendations, James. I think I had the Theodore Sturgeon collection in mind without realising it - remembering getting it out of the library when i was in my v heavy SF phase, but don't remember much apart from the cover.

also, never read any of the brothers Strugatsky, so have immediately purchased those!

Fizzles, Monday, 25 January 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link

also, don't mind having rs around, but feel those "what does it *feel* like to be a human being" experiements in empathy and experience are salutary. its mistake is perhaps not all that serious, and I'm sure rs is aware of it, but it lies in the difference between something experienced through choice and the same thing experienced through birth, accident or whatever fate is.

his father's obit (thanks nakh - it was good), indicates the same spirit - it is the distancing effect of being able to experience many things. still, he doesn't seem too much of a cunt and clearly has a desire to use what he learns for the benefit of others as well as learning for the benefit of himself.

Fizzles, Monday, 25 January 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

just been to the excellent cosmonauts exhibition at the science museum and want to read a load of russian sci-fi or experimental lit.

if not too early for what you're looking for: think some of khlebnikov's prose might just reach the outer-realms of sf. definitely qualifies for the experimental part, anyway.

no lime tangier, Monday, 25 January 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

cheers nlt. in fact i think that may hit the nail on the head as the way the early part if the exhibition is curated focuses on how the artistic imagination of kazimir malevich and ilya chashnik was converted into impulses towards and visions of the cosmos that were then scientifically and culturally realised. it's that abstraction, extreme to the point of mysticism, (and often with a lot of odd hokum in there - blavatsky always seems present) that's interesting, as it feels like they came to drive a wider cultural purpose and define its peculiar character.

Fizzles, Monday, 25 January 2016 20:23 (eight years ago) link

also with the rs thing, I've realised i was trying to say that people such as stewart have a tremendous and only partially realised desire to *belong* - there's a bit in the book where a british soldier calls him a fucking nutter and he's delighted at the praise: he likes the mess room company of soldiers. anyway, that's surely enough about him.

Fizzles, Monday, 25 January 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

I really enjoyed a mid-60s paperback, Paths In The Unknown: The Best of Soviet Science Fiction, which had 0 editorial & translator credits (intro by noteworthy American SF anthologist-author Judith Merrill, who is amazed by short-term quality leap in Soviet SF as represented here, but she's frustrated by some of the translations, which I had no prob with, as a total ignoramus). I talked about several of these stories on the older (b. 2011) Rolling Science Fiction, Fantasy, Speculative etc.

dow, Monday, 25 January 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link

damn i really need to get on to that thread but yet again i failed to get on it when it started and am now daunted by its length. will check out your posts, dow.

Fizzles, Monday, 25 January 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link

David Thomson's "How to watch a movie"

i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Monday, 25 January 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link

Presumably, in his case, it's best done while masturbating furiously over Nicole Kidman in a nude scene

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 03:17 (eight years ago) link

ugh

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 06:32 (eight years ago) link

François Laruelle’s Principles of Non-Philosophy.

markers, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 07:14 (eight years ago) link

I have nearly finished Antony Beevor's WWII book. I feel this is a massive achievement.

Peter Miller, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 08:51 (eight years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2006/sep/24/biography.film. To give some context to my distasteful remark. Or any Thomson book that mentions Kidman, really.

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 08:56 (eight years ago) link

I know the context.

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 09:06 (eight years ago) link

I picked up Hume's Treatise, which I've never read in full. It's pretty dazzling. There must be upwards of a thousand individual arguments in this book. It's fun getting into his system and seeing how everything flows from his basic distinction between impressions and ideas, which itself he's only able to articulate as a difference in degree.

jmm, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link

Couldn't it be like, "I get the impression that you're avoiding me; here's my idea about why, and my idea about how such relationships as ours are affected by technology," ideas which also come from impressions, and somewhere else (judging by the gaps, leaps past the empirical and experiential, or so it seems)."

dow, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link

"Also my idea about why I mess up punctuation in posts, but not emails."

dow, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

There's no mention of wanking over Nicole Kidman in the Thomson book but it is dreadful for other various reasons

i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

Hume is quite funny in parts, although that's kind of beside the point. A couple passages I half remember but have never been able to find again: one in which he comments that there is nothing so remotely related to a man that he is incapable of feeling pride about; and the other (which especially struck home with me at the time I was reading a fair bit of moral philosophy, though just scratching the surface really) was something about thinkers being satisfied with the thought that what they are thinking about is important, regardless of the impact of that thinking on real life. Sorry, I'm sure I'm probably missing a key twist. It's been quite a while since I read his Treatise, so I don't have anything else to add.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

Never tackled the full treatise, but hume always seems very engaging and pretty wise. I really ought to read more of him.

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Couple of Brazilians. Raduan Nassar - A Cup of Rage. This is an intensely insane novella about a night of passion and its aftermath. I found it funny too, but I'm like that. Each chapter is a sentence each (one of these is about 25 pages). Dissolves in your mind straight after you finish it, leaving a smell. Onto Clarice Lispector - Hour of the Star. The quote on the back says somehting around this being a Brazilian Joyce. Maybe there is some Beckett at moments. Her sentences are as worked over (maybe more so, its ridic actually, must've been a nightmare to write like this) but there is this fervent mysticism to it that I imagine could be like another not so popular Brazilian like Paulo Coellho (whom I've never read and who I think I'd hate from what I read about him). Nassar - like Hilda Hilst - is a lot more in that modernist lineage (one that stretches all the way to De Sade as much as Beckett - Brazilian modernism ftw)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

I could never get into the Lispector I tried, though I'd wanted to. I can't remember exactly what I read--probably a short story collection (or maybe just part of one).

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:08 (eight years ago) link

I have the passion according to g.h. sitting on my bedside cabinet and ive never been able to get into it. just find it incredibly hard to read.

Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link

A Jest of God by Margaret Laurence

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link

Totally understand how Lispector could be alienating but I find lots to like. You could burn out on them. I do want to get The Complete Short Stories. Must've been an insane project, its translator gave a really good interview about it.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

the only lispector I've read are the handful of stories translated by elizabeth bishop, istr these are supposed to be really bad translations or something but I really liked them

microtone policing (wins), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link

Lispector transcends translation -- even a 'bad' translation will make an impact.

But Dodson is v thoughtful and the book contains every story she wrote.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 23:03 (eight years ago) link

Re: Thomson, I'm sure the new one is poor, he writes too much, about a subject that obviously no longer really engages him. And yes, there is something embarrassing - or grossly sexist, if you prefer - about the way he writes about a great many female actors, not just Kidman. But at the same time I detect a strain of puritanism in some of the criticisms aimed at him for openly expressing his scopophilia - cinema is a machine for desiring and I think Thomson is brave for at least trying to articulate this, however clumsily.

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 23:25 (eight years ago) link

Raduan Nassar - A Cup of Rage. This is an intensely insane novella about a night of passion and its aftermath. I found it funny too, but I'm like that. Each chapter is a sentence each (one of these is about 25 pages). Dissolves in your mind straight after you finish it, leaving a smell.

^^^ yeah, this was mad but fun. Although I found the narrator's obsession with the alleged sexiness of his own feet fairly off-putting

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:20 (eight years ago) link

to be fair, I'd probably be more charitable to Thomson if I actually liked Kidman

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:21 (eight years ago) link

julien gracq, 'reading writing'
locke's essay
a bit of emerson

bit more of rilkes neue gedichte

started reading a bit of celine's 'journey to the end of the night', it's all very modern and loose and slangy

j., Wednesday, 27 January 2016 04:00 (eight years ago) link

What's the Gracq like? I've read a couple of novellas by him, liked them a lot.

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 04:40 (eight years ago) link

Went back to God Save the Kinks earlier. Started it when I bought it over Xmas. Just got as far as You Really Got Me. Not sure how much I like the writing style but did want a history of the band since I was picking up most of at least their 60s lps over the last few years. & it was in the 2 for £5 offer in FOPP.
Think it was another book that I picked up mainly to get the other book I picked up but can't think what that was at the moment. Still do want toget the 60s history in some detail.

Got as far as Thomas Wolfe in Inside the Dream Palace the Chelsea Hotel history.

& as far as Throwing Muses and Pixies touring in Facing The Other Way the 4AD story

Stevolende, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Jon Savage's book on the Kinks is pretty good for an official bio; they prob turn up in his collected reviews etc. too.

dow, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

I've laid aside the Isaac Bashevis Singer short stories for now. There's some remarkable stuff in there and a large part of its value rests in being an acutely observed compendium of Ashkenazy jewish culture in the 20th century.

Now I am reading Netta Larsen's short novel, Passing, that regards two main women characters who are African Americans in the 1920s, but light-skinned enough to 'pass' for white. One chooses to 'pass' and the other doesn't, although she happily takes advantage of her ability to move about much more freely in society than if she were dark-skinned.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

What's the Gracq like? I've read a couple of novellas by him, liked them a lot.

i've never read any of his fiction. it seems like an ideal book of criticism to me, it's basically only about canonical works or authors, it views/organizes most things through general reflections on broad literary phenomena (chapters called 'reading', 'writing', 'the novel', comparison to cinema, etc.), but it's written in catches and turns, so that he rarely seems to be trying to make a point, just to state long-considered reflections. his judgments always sound assured, and he has an insider's perspective on career/craft development, but a non-literary-world-game-player's amateur perspective on reading for pleasure and private satisfactions. it seems quite french (and the works mentioned are predominantly french). i read it whenever i want to recompose my mind, it's so measured and well-wrought.

j., Wednesday, 27 January 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

that sounds great!

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link

Dave Hutchinson: Europe at Midnight -- really good, just my cup of tea: like Alan Furst writing SF about topology/maps/borders/parallel universes
Diane Williams: Fine, Fine, Fine, Fine, Fine -- intensely irritating, a sort of platonic ideal of the worst of the McSweeney's aesthetic
Amelie Nothomb: Sulphuric Acid -- concentration death camps as reality TV - fairly entertaining but I don't believe a word of it

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Thursday, 28 January 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link

Actually, having read some more of it, Amelie Nothomb: Sulphuric Acid has turned out to be facile crap.

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Friday, 29 January 2016 03:36 (eight years ago) link

i don't know helen macdonald but her most recent book made some year-end lists and i LOVE that she mentions sylvia townsend warner in the new york times in 2016 so i'm a new fan of hers. also she says she likes sci-fi. dunno if i really want to read her hawk memoir but people say its great.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/books/review/helen-macdonald-by-the-book.html?hpw&rref=books&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well

also, i like that her hawk memoir was partially inspired by henry green.

also, she was the coolest kid reader:

What kind of reader were you as a child? Which childhood books and authors stick with you most?

I was an obsessive reader, the kind of child who’d read the back of the cereal packet six times over breakfast. My favorites were Gerald Durrell, Willard Price, John Masefield and two books about schoolboys running away to live feral in the woods: “Brendon Chase,” by “B.B.,” and “My Side of the Mountain,” by Jean Craighead George. Susan Cooper’s “Dark Is Rising” sequence and Ursula Le Guin’s “Earthsea Quartet” were the best of all.

scott seward, Friday, 29 January 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link


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