Macklemore, "Same Love"

This is the guy that took a golf club to John Arne Riise?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZV--H4UkAA6Av-.png

macklemore is the worst so im not trying to defend him or anything but this is a bit of a catch 22 situation: if he just accepts the award people would criticize him for not acknowledging how fucked it is that he won over Kendrick; if he does what he does then he's criticized for being self-congratulatory. and there is no third option, he can't literally give the award to Kendrick, i.e. he could give him the little statue I guess but that's not "the award"

― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, January 22, 2016 10:00 AM (18 minutes ago)

i don't think ppl were criticizing him for taking the second option, but rather for how he did it (broadcasting his personal apology text on social media, which wtf)

anyway i refuse to listen to this

xp. ha ok now I have the full information about this that is horrendous

I didn't listen to it, but my guess is it's more like a savvy and opportunistic guy who manages to convince himself he's doing the right thing

oh please listen to it, please please PLEASE

it is many things but "savvy" is not one of them, at least for the first 4 minutes

MACKLE LESS

wacklemore more like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSurzeGvPrQ

I want to give him credit for the sentiment and the motivation but the execution is just too painful

motivation here seems covering his own ass while throwing others under the bus

it is kind crazy that he ever got past the level of like being 1st of 3 on a package tour with Atmosphore and Aesop Rock

just based on reading the lyrics, it seems pretty uncharitable to compare this to "Accidental Racist"

I'm so not gonna listen to this though

oh you should

there are actual moments of insight that are so thoroughly torpedoed by the music framework in which he places them that I almost feel like this song is required listening

i got though 2.5 minutes of it

yeah I couldn't make it through the whole thing

it does honestly get better five minutes in, but those first five minutes are so hilariously terrible that I understand bailing

"Sharp moments and awful phrasing + music" is essentially my critique.

this is longer than 5 minutes? jesus.

those first five minutes!

lol xp

the macklemore song white privilege part two gets better after five minutes

did Ryan Lewis play piano on this, because he is not very good

this thing is an overlong trainwreck but there's a minute and a half of it that I would say works well with the subject matter and how he delivers it; it's kind of a shame about the other 6 minutes and 30 seconds thouh

motivation here seems covering his own ass while throwing others under the bus

eh sort of, but I don't think the disses are particularly unjustified - he seems to be honestly grappling with what it means to be who/what he is (a white guy operating in a black subculture) and forthrightly portraying his confusion about how to deal with that, which is a topic that is generally not addressed in pop music and is surely something his (presumably largely white) audience is familiar with. It's more direct and insightful than anything that Iggy or Miley's ever said, that's for sure. But the execution is just godawful, it's so clumsy.

xp

did Ryan Lewis play piano on this, because he is not very good

maybe he put up this tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU5ZE5QdZEo

omg

he does favor the black keys

I think the Accidental Racist comparison is apt because I have laughed this much at a serious song since first hearing Accidental Racist

also I think that if you don't have a grasp on enharmonics, you should not be putting out music tutorials

wait but that tutorial's only 3 1/2 minutes, how do I play the other 4 minutes of the song

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZWIlfwUgAA-VYb.png

"not a terrible thinkpiece" --the most charitable review yet of macklemores new song

what if i actually read an article

when i was in third grade i thought i was a blogger because i had a tumblr

i can't believe i'm still listening to this

this song has its own website http://www.whiteprivilege2.com

it's also hilarious that Macklermore's apparent reaction to stealing Kendrick's Grammy is to steal the more avant-garde patchwork style of some of Kendrick's recent album tracks for a song about white privilege

omg what if this whole album is mackle trying to be kendrick

I am not gonna lie, I would probably buy it

the belly lols would be so satisfying

"As a company (Macklemore & Ryan Lewis LLC), we are committed to a long-term investment of our time, resources, finances and creative capacities towards supporting black-led organizing and anti-racist education & discourse.

We are engaging with four initial organizations and collectives whose work inspires and informs us: Black Lives Matter, People's Institute for Survival and Beyond, Youth Undoing Institutional Racism & Freedom School (a project of AFSC and The People's Institute), and Black Youth Project 100."

wld be beautiful if ppls hatred motivated him to sabotage his career

well perhaps that song is the first step of the sabotage

omg what if this whole album is mackle trying to be kendrick

― lag∞n, Friday, January 22, 2016 1:20 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To Mackle a Butterfly

also I think that if you don't have a grasp on enharmonics, you should not be putting out music tutorials

― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, January 22, 2016 12:58 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't know what enharmonics are but like lots of times it's just like you wanna know how to play a GnR riff or something not get a Ph.D. in harpsichord from the Little Lord Fauntleroy Academy of Music

YUIR are a really awesome group here in Seattle. That's going to be my only comment here about this.

So is 'Downtown' Macklemore's attempt at 'King Kunta'?

i don't know what enharmonics are but like lots of times it's just like you wanna know how to play a GnR riff or something not get a Ph.D. in harpsichord from the Little Lord Fauntleroy Academy of Music

do you understand that F# and G-flat are the same note?

when writing out a major D triad, would you write it as "D, F#, A" rather than "D, G-flat, A"?

congrats, you understand enharmonics

To Mackle a Butterfly

lol

do you understand that F# and G-flat are the same note?

Yes!

when writing out a major D triad, would you write it as "D, F#, A" rather than "D, G-flat, A"?

No! (but i don't read or music and so i guess there's no meaningful difference between what it's called it's just a fret on a string)...(actually now that i started playing in open tunings i don't know what any notes are really except the open strings)

congrats, you understand enharmonics

i do now, i guess it sounded fancier than it was