Macklemore, "Same Love"

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I didn't listen to it, but my guess is it's more like a savvy and opportunistic guy who manages to convince himself he's doing the right thing

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

His response to winning the grammy, where he said "I robbed you" to Kendrick or whatever was actually a perfect example of how white dude privilege-checking exercises can just be masked self-congratulation. I'm sure this is more of the same.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link

he just wants a nice pat on the head and for someone to tell him hes a good boy

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link

His response to winning the grammy, where he said "I robbed you" to Kendrick or whatever was actually a perfect example of how white dude privilege-checking exercises can just be masked self-congratulation. I'm sure this is more of the same.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive)

macklemore is the worst so im not trying to defend him or anything but this is a bit of a catch 22 situation: if he just accepts the award people would criticize him for not acknowledging how fucked it is that he won over Kendrick; if he does what he does then he's criticized for being self-congratulatory. and there is no third option, he can't literally give the award to Kendrick, i.e. he could give him the little statue I guess but that's not "the award"

Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link

who cares?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link

people on the internet

Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link

As a fb friend said, next probably comes a song about trans people where he mentions that once he danced around in his mom's heels

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

he did just accept the award he told kendrick he robbed him in a txt lol

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

haha id forgotten that.

guess i should have read one of the 1000 thinkpieces about it

Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:03 (eight years ago) link

he said he was gonna mention it but then the music played him off and he got bewildered lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link

the best acceptance speech wldve been "choke on deez kendrick" respect the art form ffs

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link

my god what an epic fn feeb

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVoShxYWEAEjlbg.jpg

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link

the best acceptance speech wldve been "choke on deez kendrick" respect the art form ffs

ok lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link

music was playing, what did you expect him to do, put words to music?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link

it can be very traumatic to receive taunting messages from the people who robbed you

eoy_saer (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

i feel like macklemore at some point in his mind is gonna get to this point where he's like "well, i TRIED with black ppl..."

• (sleepingbag), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

This is the guy that took a golf club to John Arne Riise?

saer, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:14 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZV--H4UkAA6Av-.png

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link

macklemore is the worst so im not trying to defend him or anything but this is a bit of a catch 22 situation: if he just accepts the award people would criticize him for not acknowledging how fucked it is that he won over Kendrick; if he does what he does then he's criticized for being self-congratulatory. and there is no third option, he can't literally give the award to Kendrick, i.e. he could give him the little statue I guess but that's not "the award"

― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, January 22, 2016 10:00 AM (18 minutes ago)

i don't think ppl were criticizing him for taking the second option, but rather for how he did it (broadcasting his personal apology text on social media, which wtf)

dyl, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link

anyway i refuse to listen to this

dyl, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link

xp. ha ok now I have the full information about this that is horrendous

Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

I didn't listen to it, but my guess is it's more like a savvy and opportunistic guy who manages to convince himself he's doing the right thing

oh please listen to it, please please PLEASE

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

it is many things but "savvy" is not one of them, at least for the first 4 minutes

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link

MACKLE LESS

cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

wacklemore more like

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

I want to give him credit for the sentiment and the motivation but the execution is just too painful

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link

motivation here seems covering his own ass while throwing others under the bus

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link

it is kind crazy that he ever got past the level of like being 1st of 3 on a package tour with Atmosphore and Aesop Rock

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

just based on reading the lyrics, it seems pretty uncharitable to compare this to "Accidental Racist"

I'm so not gonna listen to this though

hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

oh you should

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

there are actual moments of insight that are so thoroughly torpedoed by the music framework in which he places them that I almost feel like this song is required listening

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

i got though 2.5 minutes of it

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

yeah I couldn't make it through the whole thing

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

it does honestly get better five minutes in, but those first five minutes are so hilariously terrible that I understand bailing

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

"Sharp moments and awful phrasing + music" is essentially my critique.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

this is longer than 5 minutes? jesus.

hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link

those first five minutes!

lol xp

eoy_saer (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

the macklemore song white privilege part two gets better after five minutes

eoy_saer (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link

did Ryan Lewis play piano on this, because he is not very good

hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

this thing is an overlong trainwreck but there's a minute and a half of it that I would say works well with the subject matter and how he delivers it; it's kind of a shame about the other 6 minutes and 30 seconds thouh

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

motivation here seems covering his own ass while throwing others under the bus

eh sort of, but I don't think the disses are particularly unjustified - he seems to be honestly grappling with what it means to be who/what he is (a white guy operating in a black subculture) and forthrightly portraying his confusion about how to deal with that, which is a topic that is generally not addressed in pop music and is surely something his (presumably largely white) audience is familiar with. It's more direct and insightful than anything that Iggy or Miley's ever said, that's for sure. But the execution is just godawful, it's so clumsy.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

did Ryan Lewis play piano on this, because he is not very good

maybe he put up this tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU5ZE5QdZEo

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

omg

hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

he does favor the black keys

hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

I think the Accidental Racist comparison is apt because I have laughed this much at a serious song since first hearing Accidental Racist

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

also I think that if you don't have a grasp on enharmonics, you should not be putting out music tutorials

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link

wait but that tutorial's only 3 1/2 minutes, how do I play the other 4 minutes of the song

Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZWIlfwUgAA-VYb.png

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

"not a terrible thinkpiece" --the most charitable review yet of macklemores new song

lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link


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