Since it's probably the best rock record that's going to come out this year: Death (detroit proto punk not metal band) - "...For The Whole World To See" Thread

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will rock music ever be GREAT again?

great rock music is still around, it's just hard to find

kind of like death was in the 70s

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

can't stop listening to this. the outro to 'politicians' is insanely good. the way it just keeps on going, but they incrementally amp it way up into the red, rallizes/mainliner-style...? amazing.

and so is the intro.

and the rest.

m the g, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah dude rock music has been really good lately!

69, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't really have anything to say about this album except that i bought it and it's great

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

and the fresh air thing is probably worth listening to

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

beside the obvious influences (stooges, heavy metal...), am i the only one who feels the WIPERS vibe here?

the whole album is beyond great, but the last track is beyond-beyond great.
jaw dropping stuff

Zeno, Friday, 10 April 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

is this available on vinyl??

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

was wondering that myself. seems like not too many copies were pressed. forced exposure has it on their site but I'll bet that's just out-of-date.

original bgm, Friday, 10 April 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

is this available on vinyl??

― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, April 10, 2009 5:18 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

gbx i got mine at fetus...last copy...i don't think they have any new stock coming in..

treehouse is out i know, so is eclipse

i would try: cheapos (fridley can be a good hookup)...maybe call roadrunner

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

This is great, got it on iTunes last night, the $6.93 price seemed to good to pass up.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

not on emusic :(

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

ooh good to know it's on itunes for that price -- i think i've got a gift certificate for jsut about that amount. and yeah, it does break my heart that drag city is not on emusic -- i'd be able to easily plug a bunch of gaps in my collection if it were the case ...

tylerw, Friday, 10 April 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

oh bummer. i'll check the cheapo down the street, but doubt i'll be out in fridley anytime soon

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, 10 April 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

This album is clearly more "whoa three black dudes from Detroit playing rock music that hasn't seen the light of day in 30 years - let me jump on the bandwagon" than "whoa this album just blew me away".

Reatards Unite, Friday, 10 April 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

they couldn't fool you!

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 10 April 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

POWER MEET TRUTH

69, Friday, 10 April 2009 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

ENJOY THE SAMEOCRACY, SHEEPLE!

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 10 April 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

im so deflated that i've been found out :(

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Friday, 10 April 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

don't worry, we'll always have sir lord baltimore

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 10 April 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, any reissue of obscurity thread wouldn't be complete without a "dude, it was forgotten for a reason!" post.

velko, Friday, 10 April 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

love is real not fade away

69, Friday, 10 April 2009 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it's a bit like that crushed butler EP, you want more (but this is way better than crushed butler)

uh, no and no. i mean, they're both EPs so that's true, but CB were more on a heavy UK post-blues/pre-glam/proto-metal thing. the second no is obv a matter of personal taste, but CB pretty much hit on every song, death is a little spotty.

cut-off jeans, skinnydipping, and "getting weird" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 11 April 2009 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link

just to clear things up:
this album is actually a collection of their singles.

Zeno, Saturday, 11 April 2009 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link

the drummer is awesome.their secret weapon, thats for sure.

Zeno, Saturday, 11 April 2009 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

"Politicians" does anticipate the Wipers a touch, were the Youth-of-America era Wipers to wank their way through an arena-rock cover (I mean this as a compliment, too) The sound is getting there, but the fluidity and economy isn't, which is a roundabout way of saying that Greg Sage wrote tighter songs when he was seventeen, and then even when he stretched them to the ten-minute mark. And the short ones never waste a note. Death's got some power, but you can't really compare the results to "Telepathic Love," "Tragedy," "Over the Edge," "Can this Be," and so on. It's amazing they existed when and where they did, but that's just musicology, also known as the downfall of many a missing link pre-punk outfit....

Michael Train, Saturday, 11 April 2009 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"dude, it was forgotten for a reason!"

Which may have had nothing to do with the music. I'm a little surprised that someone from Creem wasn't jizzing over these guys though, since they did occasionally cover local Detroit stuff. If this had come out I think it would have been hailed as a minor classic. It's that good.

Arguing over whether Death are metal, hard rock, or pre-punk (whatever that means)is kind of pointless since those genres either didn't exist or were more amorphous in the early seventies.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 11 April 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i hear pre-forever changes love, sort of like xhuxk says, especially in "where do we go from here???"

kamerad, Saturday, 11 April 2009 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

not on emusic :(

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, April 10, 2009 1:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 11 April 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Really tight, <25 minutes and love the cover, I can get behind it. Anyone going to weigh in on how consistent this is?

ogmor, Saturday, 11 April 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah it's a bit like that crushed butler EP, you want more (but this is way better than crushed butler)

uh, no and no. i mean, they're both EPs so that's true, but CB were more on a heavy UK post-blues/pre-glam/proto-metal thing. the second no is obv a matter of personal taste, but CB pretty much hit on every song, death is a little spotty.

― cut-off jeans, skinnydipping, and "getting weird" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:17 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark

nah i didn't mean they sounded alike just that i wish both were like twice as long! and i disagree, i think every song on both CB an death are good songs

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 11 April 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

nabbed this from itunes last night -- hopefully will be able to crank while I paint tomorrow.

tylerw, Saturday, 11 April 2009 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

"i hear prepost-forever changes love" -Out Here/Four sail

Zeno, Sunday, 12 April 2009 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Kinda shocked that my dad was so far ahead of ILM on this one.

Also aren't the Bad Brains refs more a case of OMG! Black dudes playing punk!

ambulance chaser (S-), Sunday, 12 April 2009 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

nah i didn't mean they sounded alike just that i wish both were like twice as long! and i disagree, i think every song on both CB an death are good songs

ooh ok, got ya (and agree). i don't think any of the death songs are truly bad, i just don't think they're all great.

you say tomato, isao tomita (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 12 April 2009 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link

xp, having actually listened to this, yes.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 12 April 2009 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link

They do sound a little like Black Flag in tiny snatches though.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 12 April 2009 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link

also, holy shit the drumming on everything but special mention Let the World Turn

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 12 April 2009 10:22 (fifteen years ago) link

also the songwriting is really really hooky, every song is really instantly hummable, I have a premonition of a T Mobile ad.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 12 April 2009 10:26 (fifteen years ago) link

chorus to "Where Do We Go From Here" is totally Bloc Party.

but yes, we can keep coming up with associations but on its own this is a pretty awesome record. the ending of Politicians, as mentioned upthread, is amazing. esp. on headphones with the fucked up eq-ing and panning it never fails goosebumpwise.

willem, Sunday, 12 April 2009 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link

list of all acts that comes into my mind while listening to this record:
stooges,mc5,saints,alice cooper,dammned,ramones,new bomb turks,love,wipers,new york dolls.

Zeno, Sunday, 12 April 2009 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Glad to hear its on Itunes, coulndt find it this weekend in any store.

Bill Magill, Monday, 13 April 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

This album is clearly more "whoa three black dudes from Detroit playing rock music that hasn't seen the light of day in 30 years - let me jump on the bandwagon" than "whoa this album just blew me away".
Yeah, that was my initial impression too. I'll have to give it another listen.

Jazzbo, Monday, 13 April 2009 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

fwiw i actually didn't know the whole backstory when a friend had sent me politicians in my eyes, or what race they were.

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 13 April 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

The comments on the iTunes page for this from the Chuck Schuldiner death-metal band fans bitching about how they shouldn't be allowed to have this name crack me up.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 April 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

want to add my voice to the praise here -- record kicks serious ass. believe the hype!

tylerw, Friday, 5 June 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, I downloaded this. Pretty fucking awesome. and i concur with the post above about the hilarity of the Itunes comments.

Bill Magill, Friday, 5 June 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I really dig this album.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Friday, 5 June 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i kinda love this and if it's totally not to be so special can somebody point me to non-stooges shit that sounds like this so i can keep this vibe happening

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 5 June 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

you heard sonic's rendezvous? pretty sweet motor city rock from the 70s ...

tylerw, Friday, 5 June 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i'll take a peek. thx!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 5 June 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link


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