Crazy Priced Vinyl On EBAY

FULLY SIGNED ON FRONT & BACK COVER (TASTEFULLY) BY BAND WHEN THEY PLAYED MY VENUE IN FRESNO CALIFORNIA

Seller doing it wrong, should get the "Ziggy Test Pressing" guy to write his copy if he wants to push his fuckin luck like this: https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/280999442
(For archival purposes, this is a 5,000 euro mono first press of "Piper at the Gates of Dawn")

about to cop https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/311127119

Same seller has a 2000 dollar maroon 5 LP

https://www.discogs.com/buy/Vinyl/Maroon-5-Overexposed/311127113?ev=idrec

lol, not to mention a $15,000 Maroon 5 box set. https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/310999747

their prices start at $100 which is mostly new vinyl everyone else is selling for a quarter of that

don't understand the rationale behind this at all, I guess it's plausible that some wealthy sucker might throw them a few grand here and there but where does anyone imagine the market is for a hundred-dollar Hot Chip LP

Piper price drop to 4500 euros! Grab it while it's cheap!

mad logic!

I only sell what i believe to be awesome stuff, and i'm pricing them based on a combination of their relative scarcity and degree of awesomeness. If you look at my listings on the desktop site rather than mobile, and look more closely at the absolute number of haves, wants, the have-to-want ratio, and the listener rating (adjusting for ratings sandbaggers), you'll see there's an internal logic to my pricing that is informed meaningfully by that information, along with a few other adjustments. i am ignoring past sale prices, because past sale prices have been an absolutely horrendous indicator of fair future pricing. What stands for great, rare music is of course entirely subjective, but what i'm certain of is the market currently has it wrong, as it almost always does. If you look at the history of rare record pricing over the last decade, it's laughable just how wrong the market has been. Ask yourself, what were most of these records selling for five to ten years ago? So was the market pricing right five to ten years ago? No, it was totally wrong! I'd argue the price of killer grail-class records has been and still is very low, rather than my prices being very high. I view the majority of albums i'm selling as national treasures, and part of our global cultural history, and there is a huge under-awareness of them by the majority of turntable owners and music lovers around the world.

There's something to that, weirdly - I can't remember where I read it, but there's an article out there somewhere on how it was book dealers, not market forces, that created the market for modern first editions in literature and a number of other book collecting areas. Still I hope this guy's doing it as a hobby, because I think he's going to have a while to wait before the world catches up to his pricing.

When that Pink Floyd album went on sale in 1968, it was priced at 18/- , did the market have it wrong?

(Spoiler: No. )

hd: sounds like an interesting read please post if you find it again

They may be national treasures but if they aren't rare then they aren't going to be expensive.

Granted, this record is a total belter, and is a nice edition, and is small in number. However, $2,499.98 does seem a little off the scale. I do like that it's .98 and .99 though.

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2619151?ev=rb

guy's got some collection...
https://www.discogs.com/seller/The-1-and-Holy/profile?sort=price%2Cdesc

Yep, although seems to have an order of magnitude related problem with his pricing.

Value is determined by desirability and rarity. He seems to have grave misapprehensions about both of those as it relates to his babies, I mean, record collection.

Majority of his stuff is low-price, I think his method is "Not selling this one now, unless someone wants to pay £3K "

Aaaaaand this is where the bubble goes 'pop'.

More like a slowly deflating hot air balloon, but when you see shit like this on a regular basis, that's usually a good sign that you're in the final stages of 'peak [whatever]'.

Aaaaaand this is where the bubble goes 'pop'.

More like a slowly deflating hot air balloon, but when you see shit like this on a regular basis, that's usually a good sign that you're in the final stages of 'peak <whatever>'.

Not ebay, but ouch...

https://www.reddit.com/r/VinylCollectors/comments/4d0c4o/selling_a_part_of_dads_collection_tomorrow_400/

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351301968054?clk_rvr_id=1013042965816&rmvSB=true

THIS TITLE IS SO RARE THAT THERE IS ONLY 2 OTHER SELLERS WORLDWIDE SELLING THIS RARE JAPAN PRESSING AND THE ARE SELLING IT FOR OVER $2000

serious o_O when i saw this...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slapp-Happy-2005-11-25/dp/B01A9KNE9O/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1460381610&sr=8-10&keywords=slapp+happy

None available? Was it one of those crazy prices generated by those systems resellers use?

that was what i was wondering. there is another version for around 50... but that one^ is a JAPANESE release.

or you could just get the twofer with desperate straights for a pittance in comparison to those.

Discogs has the japanese CD for reasonable.

It's basically one of those crazy prices generated by those systems resellers use

Based on the limitations of those programs or just the settings, they'll sometimes price things insanely high if there aren't other listings for sale that the program can calibrate against.

What are these systems? I've always wondered how these prices came about

worth it (no exaggeration):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DON-PULLEN-MILFORD-GRAVES-concert-at-yale-orig-66-PAINTED-private-free-jazz-/182058170754?hash=item2a63833982:g:T4kAAOSwoudW61DH

Resellers use them so they don't have to manually readjust their many many listings since the market value will fluctuate to something higher or lower than what an item was worth when they originally listed. It changes based on average prices of other current listings for the same item. It might readjust to something really wonky if there are no longer any other listings or activity to compare to.

xpost

would love to know if there is anyone out there that actually pays those ridiculous prices

gonna assume it's the same deal with this...

http://www.amazon.com/Microminiature-Love-Michael-Yonkers-Band/dp/B0056H0RI2

...since i just scored a still sealed copy for the equivalent of 7 or so pounds

"Just might appeal to fans of The Fuggs,Stooges,Sonic Youth and Geordie."

craigslist: http://i.imgur.com/BnlVmGM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BnlVmGM.jpg

nice

Windowlicker 12" - "We sell this record with an exclusive autograph of APHEX TWIN himself on the front cover!!!"

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/177199771

€8,000.00 + shipping

so was trying to track down a vinyl copy of Into the Unknown by Bad Religion...couldn't find anything less than about $150-200...so I saw somewhere it had been reissued as part of a vinyl box set of the Bad Religion catalog and found this on Amazon:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004EC5IY8/ref=sr_1_1_twi_lp__1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1468252709&sr=8-1&keywords=into+the+unknown+bad+religion

like at a certain point...this is a box of fucking Bad Religion records!! how much could that possibly mean to you, how often would you listen to this?, also this is all available on spotify or itunes or youtube or whatever, and I'm a vinyl guy but like are you gonna get into the deep audiophile sonics of an 80s punk record that much???

fucking crazy

i don't know, Bad Religion were HUGE in southern california in the 90s when I went to high school ... and a lot of their fans from back then probably own car dealerships in orange county now, so they've got dollars to burn.

just saw this one -- $16,000:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/the-freewheelin-BOB-DYLAN-withdrawn-LP/272275305918?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D777000%26algo%3DABA.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131227121020%26meid%3D0f38d5ad24ef49a39eb532666eaeb031%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D371662826703&rmvSB=true

The rarest - and most sought after - of all Bob Dylan albums.

That's right - this is the 1A matrix pressing which plays the four tracks that were withdrawn. It is NOT the Canadian pressing or timing strip issue which list the deleted tracks but play the standard cuts. The labels and cover here show the replacement tracks - which is consistent with the few other mono copies that have turned up over the past fifty years. However, check the picture which shows the vinyl for Side 1: the middle track is "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall", and you should be able to see it is the widest band, since it is

discogs sellers are asking between £380 and £400 for that Bad Religion box, which is still like twentysomething quid per LP but there's an affluent grownup punk market for it yeah

You guys, when you see prices like that on Amazon it's usually the result of an auto pricing program that resellers use to keep their online marketplace items relevant to current demand without them having to manually re-upload listings. When this happens it's often some sort of silly error or result of a listing that has no comparison, thereby generating a really high wonky price.

I used to work for a store that used one. Listings would increase or decrease by certain percentages to remain competitive as demand fluctuates. I didn't work with it directly so I'm not sure exactly what neglected settings make this kind of thing happen so often specifically.

Honestly in the post Shuga world anything is possible IMO, like here's a 60 second Ford Station Wagon commercial from the 50s read by some dude from the show Wagon Train, a little more than the Bad Religion box but can you really put a price on something so rare and precious??

http://www.shugarecords.com/ford-motors-ward-bond-station-wagon-transcription-lp-vg-1959-acetate-usa-cbs

also listed it for even more on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-MOTORS-WARD-BOND-station-wagon-transcription-LP-VG-1959-Acetate-USA-CBS-/351077069094

god that guy is such a scumbag

On Amazon though you'll see that happen quite often and for much sillier items at much sillier prices. It's certainly possible that it's a shuga records style nutjob just unlikely when on Amazon (unless there were some way to show that statistically I've got it completely backwards. Always possible)

yeah i'm not doubting what you say also happens but inflated price are so nuts now on some stuff it's hard to guage what anything is "worth" anymore

it's just really hard for me to go over 30/40 bucks and that better be something that's in really nice shape that's hard to find and i really love the music

recently i sold a bootleg record for way too much on eBay (even though i clearly/prominently described it as an unofficial release), and i felt a little bit guilty. but i guess if somebody wants to give me money i'm gonna take it.

Things are only worth what people are willing to pay. That's why I sort by sold and hope there's enough relatively recent data to get a reliable sense of demand.

popsike sez this may not be overpriced, but still o_O

golden era original uk pressings of unaccompanied violin stuff always goes for heaps of money e.g. these johanna martzy records from the 50s:

http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?pagenum=1&searchtext=johanna+martzy&incldescr=&sortord=dprice&thumbs=&currsel=&endfrom=&endthru=&ipp=&sdc=

or this other leonid kogan (you can pick up the CFP reissue of this for 50p btw, it sounds great):

http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?pagenum=1&searchtext=sax+2386&incldescr=&sortord=dprice&thumbs=&currsel=&endfrom=&endthru=&ipp=&sdc=

yikes at those prices! have never looked into the high end classical market... is that down to rarity value or are those pressings really that much better?