2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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I looks like someone has made nice big a model of the OS X Aqua toolkit in order to explain computers to him.

Sen. John McCain retracted Sarah Palin's stance on Pakistan Sunday morning, after the Alaska governor appeared to back Sen. Barack Obama's support for unilateral strikes inside Pakistan against terrorists

"She would not…she understands and has stated repeatedly that we're not going to do anything except in America's national security interest," McCain told ABC's George Stephanopoulos of Palin. "In all due respect, people going around and… sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that's—that's a person's position… This is a free country, but I don't think most Americans think that that's a definitve policy statement made by Governor Palin."

BWAHAHAHA.

In all due respect, people going around and… sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that's—that's a person's position democracy, motherfucker

sometimes i yell at the teevee

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4483027n

freudian

oh my God so much lol.

"He said that he would launch military strikes into Pakistan," McCain said of Obama. "Now, you don't do that. You don't say that out loud."

growing number of Republicans are expressing concern about Sarah Palin’s uneven - and sometimes downright awkward - performances in her limited media appearances.

Conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, a former Palin supporter, says the vice presidential nominee should step aside. Kathryn Jean Lopez, writing for the conservative National Review, says “that’s not a crazy suggestion” and that “something’s gotta change.”

Tony Fabrizio, a GOP strategist, says Palin’s recent CBS appearance isn’t disqualifying but is certainly alarming. “You can’t continue to have interviews like that and not take on water.”

“I have not been blown away by the interviews from her, but at the same time, I haven’t come away from them thinking she doesn’t know s-t,” said Chris Lacivita, a GOP strategist. “But she ain’t Dick Cheney, nor Joe Biden and definitely not Hillary Clinton.”

During the 2006 U.S. elections, he served as general consultant for Republican George Allen's unsuccessful 2006 Senatorial campaign against Democrat Jim Webb.

Interviewed in March, 2007, LaCivita told reporters that the GOP could silence the press uproar over the sudden dismissal of eight US Attorneys by promoting stories about the most extreme among anti-Bush activists. "When are we going to make it about Code Pink and the rest of the liberal weirdos controlling the Democrat agenda?" he asked.

During the 2008 Presidential Campaign, LaCivita consulted for the American Issues Project. He is lead consultant in ads that attack Senator Barack Obama.[1]

it's gonna be so much fun to see who tries to ride the palin train all the way down

i mean, if dudes like that aren't on board, wtf

is there precedent for a candidate changing his VP pick before the election? seems to me like it would be political suicide--how are they gonna play that off?

i guess they'd have to have palin make the announcement for the sake of her family or whatever--but still... (& then who's their next choice? mitt romney?)

is there precedent for a candidate changing his VP pick before the election?

The Eagleton example has been discussed into the ground! I think it's the wrong parallel to continually draw but it's happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Eagleton

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fwiw wingnuts are 1000% convinced that Biden will be dropping out due to "health reasons," to be replaced by Hilary

thanks. why do you think it's the wrong parallel? i guess since the assumption was that mcgovern had no chance anyway, it's a different situation...

McCain to 'Suspend' Campaign Palin Amid Crisis

i saw that there's a 'biden out' bet on intrade but i figured it was a courtesy to palin fans ! that's fucked, he isn't going anywhere.

I doubt she's going anywhere -- if she does, it will just lead to more comment on McCain's lack of judgement and his inability to do any research or vetting before making important decisions. The only thing his team can do at this point is try to prepare Palin a little better for the debates than they did for her interviews -- if she comes off as even a little less ignorant or unprepared it will probably be seen as a win for them.

no one's going anywhere

ugh can snl stop it with the tina fey thing, it's not funny and getting increasingly less funny now that their 'satires' sound more lucid and sane than the real person they're 'satirizing'

wait i'm sorry, i forgot that all you thought the first one was hilarious because lol she can mimic an accent! so maybe this is the wrong forum to bitch about how unfunny that is.

there is no way this airheaded gov can debate against Sen. Biden and come off looking less ignorant

the first one WAS funny for SNL

Now we're a little closer to the VP debate, how does Biden handle it?

i lolled 100% big time during the "w" trailer shown a few minutes after that skit though. richard dreyfuss what!! holla.

the mccain campaign has gone past the point they can really kick palin off the ticket, yeah? i mean it would make them look completely nuts and erratic, more so than they already do.

xpost "funny for snl" is shit like that batshit insane wedding dress skit that was buried at the end of last night's episode. i really, genuinely do not think that tina fey mimicking an accent is in any way, shape or form funny. because, like i said, she seems more lucid and sane in BOTH skits than the lady she is supposedly skewering!

weekend update remains the only funny thing on this show

Give her the rope and let her hang herself. xxpost

by all rights biden should eat her alive but he's got to worry about coming across "sexist" which in this new world means "at all questioning towards a person with a vagina"

xpost weekend update is still generally pretty funny, the like three times i've caught this show. i watched the whole thing last night and like after weekend update there is nothing but skits that make no sense which is kind of awesome.

the one with the pussy makes teh rulez amirite lol

by all rights biden should eat her alive but he's got to worry about coming across "sexist" which in this new world means "at all questioning towards a person with a vagina"

it only means that coming from people who don't think sexism is actually a problem tho

One of the major breakthroughs of the first McCain–Obama debate on Friday night passed with almost no notice. Both John McCain and Barack Obama, in characterizing their opposition to the Bush Administration’s interrogation program, called it torture.

haven't they both already done that?

i think it speaks to how fractured / weak feminism or the feminist movement has become that the GOP can claim any criticism of sarah palin is misogynist.

i was canvassing for obama outside of scranton, PA last weekend and several women brought up GOP talking points re: palin. registered democrats, too. & they really seemed to have a sense that any woman in public office = victory for women.

this has probably been said already, but it's so ironic that the fracturing of these potentially radical, or at least comfortably liberal, movements (like feminism, womanism, etc) now has created material for the potential rise of people holding ridiculously sexist agendas... & it doesn't seem to me like the left is currently able to reclaim any of their rhetoric.

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lol yeah that shit is totally feminism's fault

now that's what I call reading comprehension

well i agree that it's ironic, only i'd use a stronger word like "sickening." if by "feminism has become fractured and weak," pterodactyl means that opportunists have been able to take advantage of the divorce between feminism as a set of beliefs/political goals and a contentless cooptation of the specific goal of greater presence of women in political life, i agree. i guess i'd characterize the problem differently: the left & everyone has been engaged in the contentless cooptation of feminist rhetoric for a while and now it's devalued.

Actually Palin's MO is total post-feminism, but there you go. Aspire to influence, money and power using all the same venal tricks that men do, call sexism when judged/subpoenaed on it in the same way a man would be.

Also this:

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/tl5xazv3nucritnggvi34q.gif

Gad, I can't begin to recall the number of times well-meaning feminists of my generation have repeated the canard that "if only women were heads of state, there would be no more wars". Every time I hear this I flinch.

It's also a line uttered by the decidedly non-feminist Ruth Wilcox in Howards End.

it's so superficial. i work in a public HS and walk around all day hearing girls called (by each other, but more often by boys) bitch, slut, whore, and everything else. & then you ask them what they want to do in the future and 50% of them say "get married." & then you bring up sarah palin and they say, "we could have a woman vice president!" as if finally gender equality will have been achieved.

and i went out for a beer with some teachers last friday, sat around with a group of 4 women, and they talked about how they need to scoop out the insides of their bagels b/c those are empty calories and how else are they going to get laid?

& then you bring up sarah palin and they say, "we could have a woman vice president!" as if finally gender equality will have been achieved.

no offense, but taking the pulse of the country by relying on what 16 year olds say is pretty dumb

Um...I think I know what you're getting at, but I hope I'm misunderstanding you.

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there's a reason 16 year olds can't vote

i think that a whole lot of the country believes in that narrative, not just 16 year old girls!

i just brought it up in that it's strange to be surrounded by a group of people who so clearly (from my POV) could benefit from a feminist movement but who have latched onto this instead--at least for the moment.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. What does watching your weight by scooping out the insides of bagels have to do with feminism?

it's a metaphor