Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

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Hey hope that's a great show. My pops is bugging me to go & I may consider it. It's pricey & United Center/Ticketbastard/afraid-I'm-gonna-see-the-strings-holding-them-up acts have gotten too much bread from me lately.

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 15 January 2016 01:46 (eight years ago) link

I mean, it worked out OK. General Admission means I can get as close as I can/want, and because those tix started out at $50 the Ticketmaster/fee/secondary market shell game scam of a markup basically put the ticket on par with the original price of his "good" seats. So more or less $150, and of course GA is as good as it gets in my book. Not cheap, but as we've all been reminded, no one lives forever. I feel very fortunate that I've gotten free tickets to so many hundreds of shows over the years, huge and small. If I cheaped out for one of my favorite acts of all time, and one of the best live acts of all time, I'd feel like a chump.

Speaking of which, the current Ticketmaster system is so much worse than it's ever been, a shameful hall of mirrors. Tell me where I'm wrong here: tickets go on sale, sell out immediately (5 seconds in Chicago). Bruce tix are not that much, relative to comparable acts; GA is $50. So someone gets one of those $50 tickets, pays fees and stuff that pump it up another $25, which TM pockets. Then that person turns around and resells the ticket on the TM site at three times face ... and TM gets to pocket another set of those same fees. So TM not only still makes it easy for people to buy and horde tix with the intent to sell them, but actually gives those sellers a platform on which to sell them, doubling its fees in the process. It's really ridiculous.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2016 02:26 (eight years ago) link

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"Irving Azoff is <literally> THE DEVIL."

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 January 2016 02:44 (eight years ago) link

man I hope he brings this tour to Europe in the summer

schlep and back trio (anagram), Friday, 15 January 2016 10:08 (eight years ago) link

pays fees and stuff that pump it up another $25, which TM pockets

As a former TM employee, I can tell you you're slightly wrong here. The venue sets (and collects) all those "convenience" charges.

and TM gets to pocket another set of those same fees

This is probably true, since the venue has already had their way with your wallet.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 15 January 2016 13:47 (eight years ago) link

Bruce tix are not that much, relative to comparable acts; GA is $50

Those were $150 list without service charges in DC. I consider that a lot. They sold out in 2 minutes

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 January 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link

Huh, I think you're right! I missed the one. Which I guess means I just somehow got a GA seat a couple of days before the show. Maybe they released more?

Anyway, I said relative to comparable acts. Just scanning, for best seats for Lucinda Williams in a few months is $65, AC/DC is $140, Mumford & Songs is $60, Adele is $150 ... $150 for GA Bruce ain't cheap but it isn't that bad, considering I can just shuffle my way right up front if I wanted.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

Anyway, when I look at what I paid, there was a $17.50 "service fee" and $6.50 "processing fee." These go to the venue? Regardless, given the exclusive arrangement Ticketmaster/Live Nation has with these arenas, it seems to me like one giant pool of money being skimmed off the top. At least the United Center is providing an actual service. Ticketmaster is like health insurance. Bunch of fuckers that offers nothing, let alone "convenience."

I read the way it used to work with Bruce at least was you'd send in money to an address and they'd send you tickets.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Nice that you have the GA ticket. I had one for him at the United Center for The Rising - definitely a good way to go.

longform Gordon thinkpiece (Eazy), Friday, 15 January 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Tell me where I'm wrong here: tickets go on sale, sell out immediately (5 seconds in Chicago). Bruce tix are not that much, relative to comparable acts; GA is $50. So someone gets one of those $50 tickets, pays fees and stuff that pump it up another $25, which TM pockets. Then that person turns around and resells the ticket on the TM site at three times face ... and TM gets to pocket another set of those same fees. So TM not only still makes it easy for people to buy and horde tix with the intent to sell them, but actually gives those sellers a platform on which to sell them, doubling its fees in the process. It's really ridiculous.

ticketmaster (or any other ticket company) controlling both sides of that business is problematic in a million different ways.

but the other, missing element here: the thousands of seats that never go on sale in the first place, but instead go straight to the promoter or label or other business interests, who immediately put them on the secondary market themselves. which is to say, for a huge chunk of seats, there is no initial sale. there is only the secondary market. the secondary market has become, in many ways, the primary market.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 15 January 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

https://www.periscope.tv/mpslater/1OdKrkEpqaOGX

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 04:05 (eight years ago) link

^Per some predictions, Springsteen covering "Rebel Rebel" at his tour kickoff.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 04:07 (eight years ago) link

Spoilers? 3.5 hours, Bowie cover, dusting off some seldom-played once staples (Rosalita) and some seldom-played never staples (Brilliant Disguise). I can't believe dude is 66. I wonder how long he can keep this sort of set up? Anyway, if it's anything or just like this, super-excited about Tuesday here.

Meet Me in the City
The Ties That Bind
Sherry Darling
Jackson Cage
Two Hearts
Independence Day
Hungry Heart
Out In The Street
Crush On You
You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch)
I Wanna Marry You
The River
Point Blank
Cadillac Ranch
I'm A Rocker
Fade Away
Stolen Car
Ramrod
The Price You Pay
Drive All Night
Wreck On The Highway

Badlands
Wrecking Ball
Backstreets
Because the Night
The Rising
Thunder Road

Encore:
Rebel Rebel
Bobby Jean
Dancing in the Dark
Born to Run
Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)
Shout

Oh, and because I posted a better quality version on the Bowie thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgmhF0XV8uA

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link

Thanks. So I didn't have to sign up for a periscope account after all?

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link

Thanks. So I didn't have to sign up for a periscope account after all?

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link

Also , so he really hardly ever plays Rosalita?

Sorry for double post, I blame zing glitch. Usually it errs on the other side and sends multiple messages if it thinks you are double or cross posting.

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link

I've seen him seven or eight times in the last five years or so, and he's played Rosalita every time.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Sunday, 17 January 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

Hmm. I've probably seen him play close to 20 times and have heard him play it twice. I looked at this nerd site: https://brucebase.wikispaces.com/Rosalita+%28Come+Out+Tonight%29

https://brucebase.wikispaces.com/file/view/rosalita-graph.png/392298080/rosalita-graph.png

Maybe just not often in Chicago? A lot overseas, too.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

RFI for Something I Don't Know How To Find: wasn't there a video someone posted once of a live version of "I'm Goin' Down," I think, proceeded by a long monologue about when relationships hit the doldrums?

Blackstar Linus Must Change (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

That's another one he doesn't play much!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link

Right, that was the point of the posting, but the monologue was amazing too.

Blackstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link

xpost Maybe he just always brings it out in the UK. I haven't counted, but I know I've seen him do it plenty.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Monday, 18 January 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link

Better not play a Glenn Frey song tonight. Don't see why he would, honestly.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link

think i read somewhere that "new kid in town" was inspired by broooce in some way

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link

Bruce is the 'New Kid'.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link

well yeah

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link

Henley:"It's about the fleeting, fickle nature of love and romance. It's also about the fleeting nature of fame, especially in the music business. We were basically saying, 'Look, we know we're red hot right now but we also know that somebody's going to come along and replace us — both in music and in love."

...and the guy who came around was Bruce at the Roxy.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

bruce singing "take it easy" with jackson browne four months ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUh7HtXyiWg

i'd be surprised if he didn't play it tonight.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link

but i'd rather hear him do "one of these nights."

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:19 (eight years ago) link

The Heat Is On, or one of the other sax-y solo songs.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

He can't do this every time someone dies, so I doubt he'll play it, though you never know. It's 90% his pal Browne's song, anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link

no, he MUST do this every time someone dies! whoever has tickets for tonight, please report back on which blowfly song he does, kthxbye.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

Actually, I could totally see him doing this on past tours, when he was taking tons of requests and the sets were changing all the time. But since he's playing The River start to finish, plus a handful of other songs, that means he's got 22 or however many songs that can't change from night to night. So for every Smuggler's Blues he plays that's a Thunder Road or whatever that has got to go.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

waiting for Bruce to start "Born in the U.S.A." only to start, say, "Just foolin', y'all!" and launching instead into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7EjD3SIReM

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

Haha!

He could pull off "Smuggler's Blues" as well as anyone.

Longform Gordon Lightfoot (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link

bruce doing smuggler's blues would be rad

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 23:28 (eight years ago) link

Man, one day I will see one of these shows and not be among the youngest 10%.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 01:00 (eight years ago) link

Crowd surfing:

https://twitter.com/thekapman/status/689644189471096836

Longform Gordon Lightfoot (Eazy), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 03:56 (eight years ago) link

Parade float!
https://instagram.com/p/BAv0C0hkyFv/

Longform Gordon Lightfoot (Eazy), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:44 (eight years ago) link

He's playing Take It Fucking Easy, for real.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:48 (eight years ago) link

So he did play it, acoustic and slow and supported by fiddle, so it was OK. Highlight of the night might have been Bruce fucking up the intro to "No Surrender" like three times in a row, which had the band in hysterics.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 06:05 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h3ubC3PkTo

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 06:06 (eight years ago) link

And, other highlight was "Cover Me," which was weirdly intense and featured a ripping Nils solo.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 06:11 (eight years ago) link

Chicago show being offered as a free download until Tuesday night:

http://live.brucespringsteen.net

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 January 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link

Check out Nils on this around 3:10:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO-YZEQRxYM

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 January 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New York, NY, February 11, 2016 -- Simon & Schuster is proud to announce the world-wide publication of Bruce Springsteen's autobiography, Born to Run, which will be released internationally on September 27, 2016. The work will be published in hardcover, ebook, and audio editions by Simon & Schuster in the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and India, and rights have already been sold to publishers in nine countries.

Mr. Springsteen has been privately writing the autobiography over the past seven years. He began work in 2009, after performing with the E Street Band at the Super Bowl's halftime show.

In Born to Run, Mr. Springsteen describes growing up in Freehold, New Jersey amid the "poetry, danger, and darkness" that fueled his imagination. He vividly recounts his relentless drive to become a musician, his early days as a bar band king in Asbury Park, and the rise of the E Street Band. With disarming candor, he also tells for the first time the story of the personal struggles that inspired his best work, and shows us why the song "Born to Run" reveals more than we previously realized.

"Writing about yourself is a funny business," Mr. Springsteen notes in his book. "But in a project like this, the writer has made one promise, to show the reader his mind. In these pages, I've tried to do this."

"This is the book we've been hoping for," said Jonathan Karp, publisher of Simon & Schuster. "Readers will see their own lives in Bruce Springsteen's extraordinary story, just as we recognize ourselves in his songs." Simon & Schuster acquired Born to Run in an exclusive submission from Mr. Springsteen's legal representatives, Allen Grubman and Jonathan Ehrlich of the law firm Grubman Shire & Meiselas, P.C.. Simon & Schuster previously published Mr. Springsteen's illustrated book with Frank Caruso, Outlaw Pete, in 2014.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 February 2016 14:09 (eight years ago) link

actually just transcripts of his onstage intros to "Growin' Up" and "My Hometown."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 11 February 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link

I wonder how many unreleased pictures of Just Woke Up Bruce they have in archives.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 February 2016 15:03 (eight years ago) link

the opening paragraph:

"Screen door slams, Mary's dress ..." what? Waves? Blows? No, that wasn't right. Something was missing. Was that something ... America?

tylerw, Thursday, 11 February 2016 15:06 (eight years ago) link


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