funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

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Love the Marcus Nasty/Mac 10 mix on Rinse FM from a few weeks ago, though I wish the sound quality on the Rinse FM podcasts was better.

Esp. love the grimy section after the remix of "Work", esp. that mash of ravey/insane tracks around the thirty minute mark. Totally WTF material. I think they're Little Silver and Malice tunes mostly, based on the shout-outs.

Also that new Donaeo track at the 70 minute mark, he really is becoming the Lenky of funky. And how about that bizarre one at 85 with the technoid synth riffs, I'm not even sure how I'd describe it .

Tim F, Sunday, 28 September 2008 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

yeh i finally got the chance to hear the Marcus Nasty b2b Mak10 set in full, some of it is so next level. but maybe even more importantly for me the whole thing is balanced so well, really finely between the madness and rawness of grime invading and the sensuality of house. they even dropped Aaron Carl! at about +8! was feeling that

there is this point where (i think) Mak 10 drops a DOK tune into the mix with a vocal house bit, chopping it up, twisting the eqs and filters all over, it is just completely ridiculous

Benjamin, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link

rinse fm have started a new regular (monthly?) funky night called beyond - went to the first last week, it was ok! great in places but not as glam or fun as the circle one, a bit too boys-standing-round-in-hoodies at the start, and 'in the air' was dropped like 3 times in an hour, but it got going pretty well and there's lots of potential there.

i tried to listen to the marcus nasty podcast but the bitrate is just too horrible. wtf is the point w/out bass.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

That DOK tune is DOK doing funky house though innit - still great! Grime producers unabashedly jumping on the funky house "gravy" train is totally a-okay by me. Dubstep producers, not so much.

Tim F, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

yeh the DOK tune is crazy. he is a shockingly good producer imo, i am keen to hear him jump on anything at all really!

i don't see a problem with dubstep producers jumping on it, so long as its not the ones who jumped on dubstep in 2007! but i can't see the funky scene being subordinated to dubstep no matter what, so i am more of a live and let live perspective on that one. that track at 1hr18 on the Rinse podcast to me is dubstep-influenced, and im feeling that as an outer-reach of the sound.

but also i don't think its a huge worry cos dubstep already kind of has its own funky, house is really very integrated into it in parts, its just different strains and feelings of house i think, more deep, more detroit. people like Mala have been making crazy, percussion-led, bass heavy, deep house-influenced music for ages, and Anti-Social, Ramadanman, LD etc are all continuing to do so

also, bit of a tangent but hopefully no-one will object, some of the mad ravey stuff in dubstep i almost see as direct descendents of/torch-bearers for people like Adonis and Trax

Benjamin, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I got a feature on Funky going up on RA some point soon... Hard to do it justice but hopefully I captured the main stuff.

Also: Marcus got a regular spot on Rinse now, wednesdays 7-9pm.

Jacobw, Thursday, 2 October 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link

the Queen of Sheba (!) was kind enough to re-upload this unbelievable Mak 10 set off Rinse from 9 September

thought some people here would feel it if they missed it, its a very very very big show. tunes and mixing are off the scale

Benjamin, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Love the Marcus Nasty/Mac 10 mix on Rinse FM from a few weeks ago, though I wish the sound quality on the Rinse FM podcasts was better.

― Tim F

completely agree with this. 64kbps is almost unlistenable.

sam500, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

marcus nasty's show this week had so much good stuff.

i have too many of these shows to listen to now though.

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 10 October 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

OK! Hold up everyone thats been plugin me in this forum! Maximum boost for the support! If anyone has any questions regardin the funky movement.. let me knoo (includes trak names etc..)
Anyways.. jus wanted to give u an update on the scene which has happend for a while bak naw but jus incase u didnt knoo.. i am naw a part ov a 2 man crew called FUNK FACTORY wid maself DJ Smoovie T wid DJ/Producer Scotty D!
Scotty D pwas the one who produced the track "Liberty"
And were both on Touch FM every sunday night 10-12am were u can catch us on www.touchfm.com
Like i sed! Any info or anyfin jus holla..
P.S
I rememba somebody talking about that I Feel Remix by footloose! Its currently out on 12" So cop that naww!!!

Smoovie_T, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

so bongo jam was out on mp3 yesterday according to about a hundred myspaces. problem is, none of them said where to get it!

paul nomos, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

that looks like it's part of a mixed album rather than a standalone unmixed single though...otherwise surely it'd be on 7digital and itunes. odd, but the proper release is definitely coming (and 'do you mind' will follow in jan)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah it's the whole single I'm after, with the Naughty remix. Probably just get the vinyl I guess but after all the hype I'm wondering where the digital is.

paul nomos, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

the official release date is 13 nov i think - i assume a digital release will accompany it at some point

lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

didnt it say on their myspace that it was comign out 20th Oct? do you they have it on ukfunky.com?

t_g, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

It did (does?) say that on their MySpace, yes. But iTunes returns the same as play.com: they just have that mixed MoS comp track, which has been available for a few months now.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

(In which case, thank goodness for file2hd.com. I'd be sunk without it, frankly.)

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

alright, there we go. just listening to the crazy cousinz show and it's supposed to be at itunes. must be uk only though because i don't see it.

paul nomos, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i heard an LD remix of do you mind that was lovely.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

oh ok yeah i can see it on itunes

t_g, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

that LD remix is amazing

Benjamin, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Mak 10 on Pyro Radio 17.10.08

sounds like a less grimey vibe than his rinse sets, also will be of some relief for those who take issue with the Rinse bitrates! i actually think the whole vibe benefits from that compression and poor quality, but either way this one is much crisper

Benjamin, Sunday, 26 October 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

that ld remix needs to be available to buy.

cant get that mac 10 show to DL for some reason.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm does it not work just as a right click save as affair?

yeh much as i'd love it to be otherwise i don't have any big hopes for seeing that LD mix anytime soon! dubplate scene and all that. its interesting hearing his take on the vocal. think it illustrates quite well what i was talking about upthread about the different takes on house in dubstep as against funky

Benjamin, Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a very housey kode9 and ld collab 'bad' coming on hyperdub next month. one track sounds 'dubstep' housey and the other 'funky' housey

you can hear them on the player here
http://www.myspace.com/hyperdub

bass, Sunday, 26 October 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

hyperdub seems to have some amazing stuff coming out.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 26 October 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

As a Fuzzy Logik fan, i found this a good read

http://queenofsheba84.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/fuzzylogik/

Mako, Sunday, 9 November 2008 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link

im not a fan of everything kode 9 does but this is so amazing.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone notice the Fuzzy Logick-ish funky house remix of New Horizons' 'Find The Path' on the October Marcus Nasty Rinse FM set?

Tim F, Monday, 17 November 2008 12:44 (fifteen years ago) link

nah i haven't heard that set yet but that tune sounds awesome!

this thread has died a sad death of late :/ hope it wasn't me rabbitting on about (hushed tones) dubstep too much!

what have ppl been feeling of late? doom put me onto a sick new producer, cooly g... http://www.myspace.com/coolyg i cannot wait for that EP, Dis Boy is shockingly deep. Weak is amazing too, properly disorientated

i have also been enjoying the discovery of my joy on the b side of the malice ep a very great deal!

anyone got any big new sets worth sharing? courtesy of David M... Hard House Banton b2b Dubplate Wonder on Deja Vu 4 Nov 08 - http://www.sendspace.com/file/xs5ux3

Benjamin, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't been keeping up as much in the last few months, less because I've lost interest than because I'm still constantly replaying the stuff I have from earlier in the year and have yet to get bored of it.

I'm gonna try to catch-up over the next month so that I can do a year-end wrap up.

The "My Joy" refix is amazing, yeah.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Ben, did you notice this...
http://www.bm-soho.com/store/AutoKey/101156/cooly/gdub/ornagizer/vol/1/(Cd)

"I'm gonna try to catch-up over the next month so that I can do a year-end wrap up."

Looking forward to that, Tim. I'd been wondering where you were.

paul nomos, Saturday, 22 November 2008 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

so the forthcoming geeneus album (!), volumes 1, really hits the spot - i wasn't especially looking for a funky artist album but this is a good mix of anthems ('yellowtail', 'emotions' and the 'night' rmx are all here), anthems-to-be ('saturday', also w/katy b) and deeper (!), housier cuts ('out of the future' is immense).

'bongo jam' did bugger all chartwise :(

lex pretend, Monday, 24 November 2008 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I never saw it in the shops! Was it licensed to anyone big?

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Monday, 24 November 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

"Ben, did you notice this...
http://www.bm-soho.com/store/AutoKey/101156/cooly/gdub/ornagizer/vol/1/(Cd)
"

yeh i saw that thanks, it sounds sick! definitely looking to cop. although i was hoping for vinyl...

looking forward to Geeneus' thing also, liking the sound of what i've heard a lot

Benjamin, Monday, 24 November 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

'bongo jam' did bugger all chartwise :(

― lex pretend, Monday, November 24, 2008 4:19 AM Bookmark

Screw them for keeping on adding more and more extraneous vocals it didn't need. I still bump the first version.

Mikaael Jackson (The Reverend), Monday, 24 November 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

it didnt do anything chart wise cos its fucking shit. like that other 'funky anthem' song which is just the d malice gabrielle refix looped up and shouted over by some idiot.

the real funky dissapointments of 2008 are that neither do you mind or tell me charted. shameful.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

hope no-one minds the promo, but if anyone is in Bristol on Saturday please consider getting down to Take Five Cafe on Cheltenham Rd, got Mak 10 down there, £3 entry, big sound in a tiny basement, it'll be sick...

Bruk

also house, garage, soca, dancehall, all sorts besides

Benjamin, Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Marcus's most recent show (available in fairly decent quality here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/kqmjna) is INSANE - probably the most sustained attempt to make the funky = nu-grime equation. There are no vocal tracks, it's all hard as fuck quasi-dancehall/quasi-grime bangers, lots of MCs doing their business. Not my favourite Marcus funky house set ever (i'm sentimentally attached to all the old ones with Shantie on them) but this is essential for anyone curious about where this music is going. It's got that weird minimal-ish track we were talking about way upthread (it's the third track in the set) and it makes perfect sense here. There seems to be several distinct sub-trends emerging within the hard end of the scene, including:

1) weird minimal tracks a la the one I mention above
2) Little Silver style grime bangers
3) "Rising Sun" style dancehall-ish tracks
4) cavernous tracks played on what sound like monster drum kits which in my head I'm dubbing "hard tribal" (see the track at 1 hour 17 minutes). These make me think of the scary end of pre-techstep jungle, stuff like the the Trace Remix of Babylon's "Splash".

That last strand is given a lot of airtime on the 1 October Rinse set, which resultingly doesn't sound terribly "grime" at all, although still hard as fucking nails for the most part.

Tim F, Monday, 1 December 2008 07:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sort of relieved Bongo Jam didn't chart in the end, it would doubtless have been written off as an embarrassing novelty record otherwise.

Matt DC, Monday, 1 December 2008 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Kode9 played a hyper intense hour of funky at FWD>> last night, large parts of it sounding like it was his own productions. dark, broken, clipped, percussive, edgy, analogue, housey beats. crazy stuff...

Martinclark, Monday, 1 December 2008 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i was gonna go to that!! fucking deadlines.

lex pretend, Monday, 1 December 2008 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't ever recall seeing "Bongo Jam" on physical release in any shop apart from 12" white label so no wonder it didn't chart.

Geeneus album due out next week though so I'll probably pick that up.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 1 December 2008 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i did think there was gonna be a physical release but i haven't been in any record shops recently so who knows...there's definitely a digital one. R1 didn't playlist it though (unlike 'heartbroken' last yr)...maybe 'do you mind' will fare better in jan. so far the funky scene has been really astoundingly terrible at making tracks available.

lex pretend, Monday, 1 December 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, it transpires that dj ng's 'tell me' is on itunes/7digital (as is the crazy cousinz remix of the alesha dixon single), and perempay & dee's awesome 'time to let go' is on traxsource.com (but not 'in the air'?? no one i know has a full-length quality mp3 of 'in the air' yet)

lex pretend, Monday, 1 December 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I was looking for "In The Air" (awesome track!) over the weekend to no avail. Get a bloody move on!

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 1 December 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

the best i have is either http://www.sendspace.com/file/xtx0yu (320kbps but from a mix cd) or http://rapidshare.com/files/136970703/DJ_Perempay_-_In_the_Air.mp3 (full version but sounds like a shitty myspazz rip)

lex pretend, Monday, 1 December 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Cheers Lex - most of what I found seemed to have been burned straight off 1Xtra with lots of banal DJ banter and jingles obscuring the actual track.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 1 December 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

that LD remix of do you mind is coming out next year after all.

not sure about that MC set with marcus nasty - some of the emceeing on there wasnt as good as i had hoped. jme sounded great but some of sharky majors emceeing was like he had been listening to nothing but 'i see girls' since hes been out of the scene.

wish kode 9 had a radio show.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 1 December 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link


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