Vinyl records make a return

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^^ that is an exception to the rule and extra cheap, but still!

sleeve, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 03:55 (eight years ago) link

that is approx. $14.25 total btw

sleeve, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 03:56 (eight years ago) link

The last time I bought a record from England (in 2014 on ebay), the shipping cost $4.31.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 04:00 (eight years ago) link

it cost that much on the stamp or they charged you that much?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

and what's all this about a FAX box set?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

the dollar is killing the euro right now so it is more affordable than it has been, sometimes even under $10 in my recent experience

The UK doesn't have the euro.

schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 06:00 (eight years ago) link

They charged that much.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 06:09 (eight years ago) link

What scott said, yes we get the same thing the other way around; lots of stuff that's on discogs where the US has it dead cheap but the uk demand has it treble the price, but the postage in recent years has gone crazy.

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 07:44 (eight years ago) link

I try and buy in bulk when I buy from the states, but you need to be carefull in case you go over the amount where you get charged import.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link

i have decided i am only buying classical longboxes that come in era-appropriate tower bags from now on. they are the future.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12342332_10154400346702137_5284912534830211357_n.jpg?oh=584abbbd2e878bb0a6514a6d01f59a09&oe=57190BB5

scott seward, Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

Boxes soooo loooooong

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

Also reiterating

FAX BOX SET?! WHAT'S IT CALLED ETC

(Not even that big of a fan tbh but you can't just drop that and walk away.)

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 17 December 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

oh man, whenever you saw one of those bags it meant someone just bought a ton of CDs.

skip, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

xp from the fax records thread -

Good news! Apparently the rights of the FAX albums have begun to revert back to the artists, or at least some of them have managed to make a deal with Namlook's estate. So the entire Dark Side of the Moog series will be released as three box sets, with one bonus disc included in each box:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Side-Moog-Vol-1-4/dp/B018EHR7GK

(The bonus disc in the first box is just a reissue of the "Evolution of the Dark Side of the Moog" comp, a seamless mix of tracks from the first ten albums, but the next two boxes will apparently have some exclusive material as a bonus.)

The two solo discs by Lorenzo Montanà have also been reissued as one set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Ivy-Serpe-Lorenzo-Montana/dp/B016BSR9PS

Montanà was one of the new discoveries on FAX during its last few years, and these albums are well recommended. They have shorter, more beat-oriented tracks than your typical FAX albums, with a nice old-school "home listening techno" sound, a la early Warp Records.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:52 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just sayin, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

I don't know anything about Fax or the Dark Side of the Moog series, but I own a fair amount of Schulze stuff - Cyborg, Audentity, and La Vie Electronique vols. 1-8 and vol. 16. So...do I need these boxes? What do they sound like? I love Schulze's 70s stuff, obviously, but his 80s stuff doesn't do much for me at all. Please advise.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

i bought a record today. it's really good. and not cheap. but way way cheaper than one share of google.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10273409_10154400205112137_2171940873494849254_n.jpg?oh=81ab78bae774e3d3df5c6f9cba6f8cea&oe=570F4E0A

scott seward, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

That's a good album! I had it when it was reissued on CD by Atavistic in the early '00s.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 17 December 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

Tuomas will disagree vehemently but the dark side of the moog stuff is... not good imo

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

it's from the 90s so you can probably imagine what it sounds like. i definitely prefer his 80s stuff

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/may/20/vinyl-sales-bigger-than-youtube-for-british-artists

It said YouTube and similar operators contributed a “meagre” £24.4m to music industry coffers, despite an 88% increase in music video streams to nearly 27bn last year. That was narrowly eclipsed by the £25.1m earned by labels from the sale of 2.1m vinyl LPs in 2015.

“Play shuffle board and drink bear!” (seandalai), Thursday, 19 May 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

interesting!

perhaps download revenues top both Youtube and vinyl, wonder what the Spotify/Tidal numbers are

niels, Friday, 20 May 2016 07:59 (seven years ago) link

The BPI called on the government to fix the so-called “value grab” by websites such as YouTube who, it said, paid lower royalties than subscription audio streaming services such as Spotify and Deezer, which contributed a combined £146.1m.

That YouTube number is shocking. Why do the labels keep going along with it?

skip, Friday, 20 May 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

the weird thing is many of the anti spotify people will use youtube.

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 20 May 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

many? all!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 May 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link

i use youtube. i love youtube. i'm not anti-spotify though. i do get spotify fatigue very quickly. the canned claustrophobic sound of spotify makes me itchy after awhile and i can only take about 45 minutes of it.

in my defense, i have never downloaded a CD off of the internet or burned a CD or saved a CD to my computer in my life.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link

i do believe in home taping though.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link

did seem really fishy to me when youtube started just grabbing stuff off of the internet when i went looking for stuff. what's the deal with that?

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

What do you mean by that?

Evan, Friday, 20 May 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

does spotify have some discernible lower quality to its sound than you would otherwise expect from 320kbps streaming? I never really noticed anything canned or claustrophobic about it, but I might not be paying close enough attention.

chinavision!, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

"What do you mean by that?"

i'll type something in and a video will show up with no views and it's published that day and its just a picture of a CD with the title on it. looks like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbvAMy4bXPw

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

i mean they come directly from CDBaby and places like that but they seem auto-generated.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbZL04aQ6XeDey4btADmmHw

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

basically stuff that isn't on youtube will magically be on youtube if you search for it on youtube sometimes. and i don't know how that works. money-wise.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

"Provided to YouTube by The state51 Conspiracy"

state51 conspiracy is a digital distribution house, so i think these are legit.

koogs, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

like, does o-zone the don know he's magically on youtube? and does he get anything out of it? i doubt he ever will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urYjh4MMDRw

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

anyway, this is a fairly recent thing. it didn't used to work that way.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

they must mention it on sites like cdbaby if you use their services: "if you put your stuff here and someone types your name on youtube it will appear there. just so you know."

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

if they provide the videos and the correct iswc / isrc / whatever then they will be paid for plays of those videos.

koogs, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

just seems weird. they probably need more views than they will ever get to make any money and the 20 people interested in their music will listen to it on youtube and never buy their cdbaby cd.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

they must mention it on sites like cdbaby if you use their services: "if you put your stuff here and someone types your name on youtube it will appear there. just so you know."

― scott seward, Friday, May 20, 2016 12:18 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not in so many words, but apparently enough to cover themselves legally. I used CDBaby for a couple of things years ago, before youtube existed, and whaddyaknow, there's my shit on youtube!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

went into my least favorite record store yesterday. things have actually gotten worse. two of my favorite pricings were a used copy of Trans for $35 (justified by a sticker saying it is a 1st edition with a typo) and a used copy of Katy Lied for $25. I hope every track is misspelled on that one!

bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

another $100 record had a sticker that said "listed at $150 on amazon!"

bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

"and a used copy of Katy Lied for $25. I hope every track is misspelled on that one!"

there is actually a copy of Gaucho inside it. very rare.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

basically stuff that isn't on youtube will magically be on youtube if you search for it on youtube sometimes

http://www.statista.com/statistics/259477/hours-of-video-uploaded-to-youtube-every-minute/

it seems like youtube has upwards of 500 hours of video uploaded to it every minute. chance are if you are searching for something it is going to turn up eventually, if only temporarily.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 20 May 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link

you think 15 bucks is too much for a really clean copy of the first nitzer ebb album? u.s. copy on geffen. 1987 pressing. i could be nice and just put 10 on it...

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

there isn't a single person in the u.s. selling a copy of the nitzer ebb album on discogs. kinda hard to believe. okay, 15 bucks in the store and 20 on discogs. win/win!

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

went into my least favorite record store yesterday. things have actually gotten worse. two of my favorite pricings were a used copy of Trans for $35 (justified by a sticker saying it is a 1st edition with a typo) and a used copy of Katy Lied for $25. I hope every track is misspelled on that one!

― bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, May 20, 2016 1:23 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another $100 record had a sticker that said "listed at $150 on amazon!"

― bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, May 20, 2016 1:24 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't why these situations / types of stores are so common around the country, but it's fascinating to see so many of them alive at this point. You'd think they'd be the first to die.

Evan, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

Eh, Scott I'd have done $10 for it.

Evan, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

i never see their records on vinyl anymore actually...

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

it's like front 242. used to see their records everywhere not that long ago. or maybe it was long ago...

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

i'm actually charging extra five bucks for the near mint vinyl + original inner sleeve. if it had been VG+ i would have done 10.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link


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