Vinyl records make a return

Wow I hadn't noticed that re: Sundazed. That's a bit ridiculous, even considering the massive vinyl bubble.

Superior Viaduct's pricing seems to have increased as well, based on the cost of those new Illitch reissues

http://www.laweekly.com/music/why-ive-fallen-out-of-love-with-shopping-for-vinyl-6378229

wait, records were cheaper in the 90's? no way!

You could buy 5 worn sleeved Bowie's then for price of one today.

totally. but nobody wanted records in the 90's! other than the kind of freaks who always want records. and some indie/punk people.

and good 80's stuff does NOT get easier to find as time goes on. there just isn't as much of it out there anymore and lots of people want it. i think this is called economics.

i'll still sell you the first lone justice record for five bucks though.

from what i hear these guys are the worst offenders in LA.

https://www.facebook.com/Wombleton-Records-101072229955898/photos_stream

buying trips to england and huge mark-ups.

Seems like that could an occupation for a movie character--"Oh yeah babe, I work the backstreets of London, lock down that hot wax, and flip 'em at 500% profit in L.A. the next week..." he says, reflected into this mirror...

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BTW, I got my Lone Justice debut for $1 ten years ago. #SuckIt

these days it's pretty rare to find a record store that isn't gouging the customers. Amoeba is still pretty fair. wombleton, jackknife, rockaway, record surplus, permanent records, record parlour, etc...some of them have good points but for vintage LPs they're mostly awful.

did i talk about my siouxsie thing on here? i don't think i did. went online looking for a u.k. copy of hyaena because i've never had one and i always kinda hated how the u.s. vinyl sounded. could find nothing in the states. not only that, there wasn't a single u.k. copy of ANY of her records being sold in the states on ebay. there were 30 u.k. copies of hyaena on discogs and they were all in england and europe. and they were cheap too mostly. but with shipping they would end up not cheap. shit is scarce and it used to be everywhere. so i do get people charging 20 and up for nice copies here when they have them now. i just sold a u.s. copy for 8 bucks last week though. the cover was a little beat.

i mean i would totally pay 20 for a nice copy of hyaena now in a store if i ever saw one and that would be kind of cheap in the u.s. these days. could really use a near mint u.k. juju too...

i should hook up with a brit ilxor and have them send some of that goth bounty my way...

yep I have seen that repeated with a lot of things, the only copies are overseas (see also: Heaven Or Las Vegas, German pressing)

i wouldn't really pay more than $15 or $20 for any LP I could get on CD, unless the CD mastering is notably terrible or something. i end up spending a ton on african LPs and EPs and 7"s which just don't exist in digital at all.

Remembered the other LP I saw alongside Still Crazy at still-crazy prices: Norman Greenbaum, Spirit in the Sky. Again... I like that record fine, three or four real good numbers, but... $25? Is that pool of ''bought it eight times'' people in play for *that*?

i also take issue with that LA piece when they say that stores are all curated now and not the cool dusty heaps of yesteryear. i can state for a fact that very few people want dusty heaps. as romantic and "funky" as that sounds. maybe they want that in a junk shop where everything is a dollar, but the amount of people who want to dig through heaps dwindles every day. the majority of people buying records now want easy access to things they are very familiar with. which is why most people shop online.

There's a meaningful range between dusty heaps and seamlessly curated just for you, though - which I think you get at nicely with your point about $1 junk shops. I'll sommmmetimes be in the mood for *that* kind of rummaging, depending how many boxes the junk/thrift shop is posing and how dire the first chunk I flip through is - but very very down for rummaging a record store proper, at length, even though the price is higher and the quantity way higher, because I know the store spends half their time turning *away* huge collections of ragged dusty dross. But within that there are all types of pleasantly rummageable conditions, some I guess dustier than others but a fundamental part of being a vinyl listener for me.

a lot of casual record buyers in 2015 can definitely get overwhelmed by too muchness. my store isn't even that big - and it's organized - and a lot of people can't process the amount. they look for safe pink floyd shores and call it a day. or whatever their brand of safety is. they aren't necessarily looking for surprises. or a challenge.

I thought UK shipping was cheap, unlike shipping from France, Italy, Spain, Germany, etc.

i can't remember the last time i bought something from overseas. how much is a record from england? maybe i'll splurge on a hyaena.

i just know it costs me like 18 bucks to send a record to england. i feel bad about it too. someone buys a ten dollar record and it costs them almost 30.

the dollar is killing the euro right now so it is more affordable than it has been, sometimes even under $10 in my recent experience

Happy Flowers - I Crush Bozo (LP) (Homestead Records - HMS106-1)
Media Condition: Very Good Plus (VG+)
Sleeve Condition: Near Mint (NM or M-)
with insert
€8.50
Subtotal €8.50
Shipping via Airmail €4.50
Total €13.00

^^ that is an exception to the rule and extra cheap, but still!

that is approx. $14.25 total btw

The last time I bought a record from England (in 2014 on ebay), the shipping cost $4.31.

it cost that much on the stamp or they charged you that much?

and what's all this about a FAX box set?

the dollar is killing the euro right now so it is more affordable than it has been, sometimes even under $10 in my recent experience

The UK doesn't have the euro.

They charged that much.

What scott said, yes we get the same thing the other way around; lots of stuff that's on discogs where the US has it dead cheap but the uk demand has it treble the price, but the postage in recent years has gone crazy.

I try and buy in bulk when I buy from the states, but you need to be carefull in case you go over the amount where you get charged import.

i have decided i am only buying classical longboxes that come in era-appropriate tower bags from now on. they are the future.

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Boxes soooo loooooong

Also reiterating

FAX BOX SET?! WHAT'S IT CALLED ETC

(Not even that big of a fan tbh but you can't just drop that and walk away.)

oh man, whenever you saw one of those bags it meant someone just bought a ton of CDs.

xp from the fax records thread -

Good news! Apparently the rights of the FAX albums have begun to revert back to the artists, or at least some of them have managed to make a deal with Namlook's estate. So the entire Dark Side of the Moog series will be released as three box sets, with one bonus disc included in each box:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Side-Moog-Vol-1-4/dp/B018EHR7GK

(The bonus disc in the first box is just a reissue of the "Evolution of the Dark Side of the Moog" comp, a seamless mix of tracks from the first ten albums, but the next two boxes will apparently have some exclusive material as a bonus.)

The two solo discs by Lorenzo Montanà have also been reissued as one set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Ivy-Serpe-Lorenzo-Montana/dp/B016BSR9PS

Montanà was one of the new discoveries on FAX during its last few years, and these albums are well recommended. They have shorter, more beat-oriented tracks than your typical FAX albums, with a nice old-school "home listening techno" sound, a la early Warp Records.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:52 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know anything about Fax or the Dark Side of the Moog series, but I own a fair amount of Schulze stuff - Cyborg, Audentity, and La Vie Electronique vols. 1-8 and vol. 16. So...do I need these boxes? What do they sound like? I love Schulze's 70s stuff, obviously, but his 80s stuff doesn't do much for me at all. Please advise.

i bought a record today. it's really good. and not cheap. but way way cheaper than one share of google.

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That's a good album! I had it when it was reissued on CD by Atavistic in the early '00s.

Tuomas will disagree vehemently but the dark side of the moog stuff is... not good imo

it's from the 90s so you can probably imagine what it sounds like. i definitely prefer his 80s stuff

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/may/20/vinyl-sales-bigger-than-youtube-for-british-artists

It said YouTube and similar operators contributed a “meagre” £24.4m to music industry coffers, despite an 88% increase in music video streams to nearly 27bn last year. That was narrowly eclipsed by the £25.1m earned by labels from the sale of 2.1m vinyl LPs in 2015.

interesting!

perhaps download revenues top both Youtube and vinyl, wonder what the Spotify/Tidal numbers are

The BPI called on the government to fix the so-called “value grab” by websites such as YouTube who, it said, paid lower royalties than subscription audio streaming services such as Spotify and Deezer, which contributed a combined £146.1m.

That YouTube number is shocking. Why do the labels keep going along with it?

the weird thing is many of the anti spotify people will use youtube.

many? all!

i use youtube. i love youtube. i'm not anti-spotify though. i do get spotify fatigue very quickly. the canned claustrophobic sound of spotify makes me itchy after awhile and i can only take about 45 minutes of it.

in my defense, i have never downloaded a CD off of the internet or burned a CD or saved a CD to my computer in my life.