Star Trek Beyond

justin lin understands how to direct ppl as if the characters care about each other, might be good

I'm sure it will be dumb, but hopefully a better kind of dumb than the last one.

at least ppl are unlikely to say "it's a desecration of 'The Gamesters of Triskelion'."

will likely be a better action movie than STID. unfortunate that lin got stuck with a series not primarily known for action.

not really unfortunate. More "stupid"

ugh

It's a desecration of 'The Gamesters of Triskelion'.

it's not for... true gamesters.

Star! Trek! Beyond!
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dada daaaaaaaa dadada dada daaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
dada daaaaaaaa dadada da daaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

this will be my favorite reboot if it is all ska-trek puns.

skanksters of triskalion

movie titles make me think of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHHX9R4Qtk&t=3m5s

whoops... go to 3:05

Star Trek Into Darkness had nothing to do with Into Darkness but it's kind of a generic title anyways so I guess it fits just by being a phrase that could fit more or less any plot. Same thing with "Beyond" which could describe pretty much any ST movie conceivable.

Into Darkness wasn't bad but I have been struggling to remember a single thing from it that wasn't in the trailers.

4 Non Beyonds

Wtf at Spock's hair.

after further reflection and a second screening of the first movie i am actually astonished at how terrible this reboot series has been, like i've read articles and posts on here even saying how abrams just wants to pay homage or not fuck up what those before him created but i mean this series is just one long continuing fuckup.

the first one's okay (lame villain really hampers it). Couldn't bring myself to see the second one. Latest looks pretty stupid.

they should go back to high concept TV imo

first one is the best by a long shot and probably has the most in common w/the tone of the previous incarnations but it still misses the mark. last one was schumacher batman wrong, this one looks worse.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/12/simon-pegg-asks-fans-to-hang-in-there/

they're doing a new show

exec produced by Kurtzman...

be careful what you wish for

to boldly go where no man has gone before....and blow shit up while we're there

who is Kurtzman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kurtzman

ugh

kinda wished they would hand it back to the BSG/ex-TNG guys instead (even if they did totally fuck up BSG)

Fringe (which Kurtzman co-created) had a couple good seasons.

More than a couple IMHO.

Kurtzman didn't have much to do with Fringe by the time it got good, I think.

I think the Kings (who do the Good Wife) could do a pretty good Trek. Find someone with dialogue/character credentials, not nerd credentials.

Or, tbh, the Trek I really want to see would be one last TNG movie (surely they're no more aged than most of the TOS crew was for Undiscovered Country?)

Find someone with dialogue/character credentials, not nerd credentials

^^^

nothing more worthless than nerd credentials imo

Or, tbh, the Trek I really want to see would be one last TNG movie (surely they're no more aged than most of the TOS crew was for Undiscovered Country?)

― Chuck_Tatum

Patrick Stewart, at 75, is older than any of the main cast (shatner, nimoy,kelley etc.) of the Undiscovered Country. The rest of the cast would be younger on average than the cast of Undiscovered Counry.

only 9 years in age difference between shatner and stewart

If we're fantasy-producing Trek, why not get David Simon?

why

"Enterprise-E the same, just got more fierce."

wayyyy doooooown in the wormhooooollle

just saw the first Star Trek movie (for the first time) - in 35mm at the local theater that does that. jeez that's a really lovely movie in every way imo!

very challopsy

The photography on the 20-minute model shot of the Enterprise coming out of dry dock is technically lovely I guess? That's about it iirc

+ Persis Khambatta

no it's really a very pretty thing altogether on the big screen imo! there's all these very long shots of the ship and of space, it's like they wanna get a 2001 vibe which obviously no but still, it's almost...tranquil? and so much about characters, the plot is really basic ("threat to universe that cannot be bested by force must be met with intellect")...idk, as a guy w/no skin in the Star Trek game this struck me as a good movie with a really lovely overall groove!

all that is otm, it's the most star trek star trek movie. on a small screen or in the wrong mood tho it just plays as kitsch at art-house speed.

many moods are the wrong mood.

I think the Kings (who do the Good Wife) could do a pretty good Trek

Not the worst idea ever, but I'm still sad that Bryan Fuller never got his shot

the ST:TMP producers got 2001 fx guy Douglas Trumbull and gave him free reign in post-production.

yeah it definitely is exactly like they wanted to get a 2001 vibe. hence the singular bathos of the dock sequence, which is like if you spliced shots into 2001 of william shatner weeping. it is likeable tho, partic in our ahem era, because even tho it is 1979 it is so pointedly not going for a star wars vibe: a point of pride even the tremendous wrath of khan can't really claim.

(well maybe it can: maybe it is just big-screen "balance of terror".)

i definitely wish bones kept his beard all thru tho.

Don't forget that medallion.

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like a crash-dieted welles

This was entirely unmemorable, Karl Urban is starting to piss me off with his almost parodic performance, and they stole the "classical music" joke almost verbatim from Futurama.

I have retained very little memory of this movie.

This year's laudable 'enterprise' rocketed past every reheated rehash you've seen before. One of America's most able directors effortlessly applying his artistic legerdemain. Legendary, ostensibly what every enthusiast needed.

I very much doubt they're going to do another one of these, and I guess I'm fine with that.

"classical music" joke was also in a 1965 episode of Doctor Who where they watch the Beatles on a tardis TV.

I watched this (ST Beyond) last night. It had about enough plot to fill a smallish teacup and the characters had nothing of interest to do, except insofar as being in danger and fighting will seem to be interesting for a while, just because we all have monkey brains. This movie is what the word shite was coined to describe.

Are the plot holes big enough to fit a space station? yes!

Are the characters totally basic? yes!

Did I care? nope. I'm probably going to watch it again so I can give it the proper praise it deserves. Justin Lin directing a sci-fi action movie written by Simon Pegg is very much what I hoped it would be.

tombot otm

love the 70s-paperback-cover look of this movie

oh I said that upthread before

me otm, i guess

yeah this was totally enjoyable

yeah i dug it

I skipped the Khan reboot one, not sure if I prefer this to the first film but it's possible

khan reboot was kind of a chore imo

It was trash, the most joyless Trek ever

I've never liked Cumberbatch, but once the plot details started to leak I was like wtf no

This is definitely my favorite of the three. Veggies OTM re #2. I also think one of the strengths of this one is not leaning so much on the Spork dynamic and letting some of the other characters breathe, as thin as they all may be.

Way better than the second movie but still kind of dull, I thought.

Not trying to challops but I think Quinto is *terrible* as Spock. There's too much anger in the character - it's a boring acting choice. I just kind of want the movies to be 2hrs of Kirk.

yeah i'm not really a fan of his portrayal, it completely whiffs on the dry, intellectual side of Spock.

the alternate timeline shit is needlessly complicated, too.

needlessly complicated or... opportunity for comicsplaining?
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crisis on infinite cumberpatch

I love #3, and I love #1 ...that Khan nonsense never happened as far as I'm concerned.

I mentioned this upthread but Mr Veg said something I think about a lot w/r/t these movies. He likes the reboots well enough, but he feels like the reboots work overtime to make the look and the tone feel like Star Trek but it bugs him the way they steer clear of any of the depth of content that Rodenberry brought to the series. Like there's no real science or social issues, there's no 'there' there.

I blame JJ Abrams; I've always felt like he just liked the clothes and the spaceships of Star Trek but thought the content was too nerdy

(and I am generally a fan of Abrams)

Agreed on those pts

Abrams is a fan-fiction writer given unlimited studio resources.

The opposite, I'd have thought? Fan-fiction writers care A LOT.

Like there's no real science or social issues, there's no 'there' there.

Totally - Super 8 the same: all the Spielberg signifiers, none of the depth. Even the TOS and TNG movies, gaudy as they are, are still "about something" while still working as silly sci-if action movies

no way! i loved the kids in Super 8.

ST Beyond was written by a fan fiction dork, though, which is why it's a fucking blast.

The whole setup to get to the sabotage bit is A++++ trek dialogue for all time, btw, startling from when hears "lassie" say the word bees

... from when Spock hears her say "bees"... derp phone

New series debuts tmrw, btw

yes and Star Trek: The Bryan Fuller TV reboot

Finally watched this, and it's not half-bad (the Spock/McCoy scenes particularly)! The half that is bad pretty much involves the bad aliens, who have a LOT of similarities with the nu-Klingons on Discovery.

It's almost as if they... sabotaged themselves.