Magic: The Gathering C/D

Y'all heard about the guy who wants to pay 40k if someone runs a Seance deck at the next PT?

Yeah lamp mentioned it in the bitcoin thread, pretty weird

https://twitter.com/utdzac/status/675211961915830272?s=09

this build actually seems pretty sweet, though probably a little too clunky. it would be playable at a local modern event at least.

I did have a seance deck during scars/innistrad standard that I played a few times as a gimmick, it had a combo kill where you seanced a 1-of mirror mad phantasm, used it to mill your whole deck, then seanced a lab maniac on your upkeep. Probably not going to cut it in modern though, it barely worked in standard

yeah I think that build is smart cause it's a value deck w/ something of a combo upside instead of being all in on reanimation. my guess is that it would have a hard time closing out games even after being ahead though.

my understanding is that he got a bunch of offers from ppl who are q'd but no one i know heard back from him. he then took down his reddit post for 'legal reasons' that went unelaborated on. popular speculation is that hasbro/wotc approached him asking him to rescind the offer. i like the theory that he found someone he liked to take up the offer and we're going to see someone jamming a seance deck at the pt but that seems... unlikely.

the same guy previously paid people to destroy copies of the card

also paid someone to wear a t-shirt with seance on it at a regional ptq iirc

ok can someone explain what the "expeditions" sets are? do certain Zenidkar packs just contain random foil lands? and are these cards Standard/Modern legal? because uh, some of these spoiled cards...

some Zendikar and Oathwatch packs contain random full art foil lands. They are only legal in a constructed format if the non foil versions are also legal. So expedition battle lands and ally fetches are legal in standard but enemy fetches and shocklands are not. However, they are all legal in limited if you open/draft them.

ahhh, that part is cool. I wished the original Zendikar treasures worked like that. I look forward to getting Strip Mined in draft, really I am

maybe they can throw a crucible of worlds reprint in OGW

LOL, forgot that they are legal in limited. You can keep your Strip Mine, I'll take an Ancient Tomb.

ancient tomb is pretty bad in fair limited

it's still pretty strong

maybe w/ the right deck, but in general you're making your mana worse and starting at like 14 life. if you're behind in a race and drawing poorly, now you've strip mined yourself cause you can't afford to use your land anymore. in my cube experience w/ the card, I've rarely found the variance worth it.

I agree with you that it's not usually that strong in Cube, but Cube also has lots of answers that are cheaper than the threats, as well as decks that really punish you for losing early life. Landing threats a turn early seems way stronger in BFZ limited, which doesn't have a lot of cheap answers. Also there aren't strong color requirements in this set, so I don't see that hurting much either. But who knows, you might be right that the life loss balances the card. I wonder if they even bothered to playtest the card in the limited env, given how rarely it will come up

yeah I mean it's true that if you curve out with that and a fast hand you win, but a cube game is also more likely to have that kind of perfect curve than a normal limited game. it's not that it can't be super good though, it's that it completely loses the game when it's bad.

kor haven seems like it would be pretty annoying to face in normal limited.

I doubt they playtested any of it in limited. At our store we ruled you could play the Zendikar treasures if you got them, which I thought was really cool, not knowing what could show up at any game (of course the few people who got them would tell everyone right away)

Been playing some BFZ limited and it's been strange, most matches play more like Cube than any other limited format. Also I 3-0'd one with a deck I thought was kinda janky (though it had a lot of good Awaken cards), then 1-2'd two Origins drafts that I thought I nailed, so who knows

haha yeah I'm sure they did zero playtesting, though it would be hilarious if someone lost a big protour match because of strip mine

This is definitely my favorite card spoiled so far:

http://mythicspoiler.com/ogw/cards/hedronalignment.jpg

i do enjoy an alt win con, just to see what ppl do with it. the abyssal persecutor that exiles your library is also a cool design.

overall i have been really liking the look of the oath cards spoiled thus far. both gold uncommon cycles seem pretty nice.

I love the design of that card, if you plan to abuse the ability then the undercosted flier likely isn't a big part of your gameplan, but if you want the flier than the ability is dangerous. Should be fun to see in Legacy Cube next year

UR 1/3 flying haste prowess is dope

also bone saw reprint as a trashy bridge card for the surge deck and equipment deck is cute, I enjoy these little details more than the big splashy cards these days

I'm looking forward to jamming Eldrazi Displacer into every deck I play.

Not looking forward to being wrecked by Kozilek's Return

yeah the u/r 1/3 dude is a card I am gonna buy 4 foil copies of immediately

I keep reading "Devoid" as "Devour" and thinking "holy shit is that good"

I think I just built my most degenerate Vintage Cube deck yet, amassing three turn-4 wins with Craterhoof Behemoth, that's the sort of thing that'll keep me addicted to this format until they take it away

ends today sadly. i am borrowing someone else's insight here but one underrated aspect of a powered cube in particular is the entertainment/drama of the draft itself. i have discovered 2 of the worst feelings in magic for me are the creeping realizations that 1) what was going to be a sweet broken deck is actually just a pile of garbage and 2) i have somehow ended up drafting a sad fair deck

spending a minute trying to figure out which creature to Bribery and taking a Sheoldred only to have it immediately bounced back with Karakas was pretty bad

i kinda like the chronological flashback draft thing theyre doing this year, there's a lot of dud formats like the core sets but it's also the only chance we'll get to draft the best 'partial' formats, like champions/champions/betrayers of kamigawa and 3x time spiral are among the best draft formats imo but their full block versions are a lot worse

it also means they have to run coldsnap drafts and coldsnap owns

for a long time the drafts at the store here were just "any three packs you want" and I liked how full block Time Spiral captured that feeling to some extent

problem with full block time spiral was sprout swarm which was a common that ruined games. planar chaos was fine but not particularly more interesting than just getting a 3rd time spiral pack imo

i guess i do still like full block though, thinking about it more

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYEDUJoWsAEOy-o.png

love this card

I wouldn't say TS-TS-TS was inherently a better format than TS-PC-FS, but I do find that the newness of a totally new format, new world, new mechanics tends to cement way more nostalgia for me. So that when they run TS-PC-FS or especially TS-TS-PC, it feels like a weird version of TS-TS-TS and just makes me want to do TS-TS-TS. I even have more nostalgia for original RAV-RAV-RAV than full block RAV, and I'd guess that's an unpopular opinion

i just like triple large set formats best in general, the main exception being invasion block

agreed - they've gotten pretty good at designing triple large draft formats and a lot of times adding another set feels like they're screwing with the formula.

full block RAV always confused the hell out of me, I could never remember which 3-color combos could draft well and which were traps. I don't really like finishing one pack with an idea of what 3rd color you'll need to splash, that was the thing I didn't like about Fate/Khans/Khans (and triple Khans was pretty much perfect)

I don't like any of the multicolor formats that have fewer than 10 supported color combinations, they get stale way faster in my experience

super excited about warping wail, I think it's a sure thing modern/legacy card

yeah i like eldrazi charm

full spoiler now up. set looks great at first pass, lots of cool stuff at all rarities esp w/ colourless activations. and very little vanilla.

http://media.wizards.com/2015/ogw_239nCi30ks3/en_RdYPALUIin.png
http://media.wizards.com/2015/ogw_239nCi30ks3/en_2coXKQFgkw.png
http://media.wizards.com/2015/ogw_239nCi30ks3/en_ZXi4eRRR4S.png

these are p cool cards for commons

http://media.wizards.com/2015/ogw_239nCi30ks3/en_CwUVtu4ZGe.png

http://media.wizards.com/2015/ogw_239nCi30ks3/en_EpO0ChpKsf.png

dealing damage instead of fighting seems red? idk, even at 5cmc this is so much better than the miserable bfz flight card. green still not very exciting overall tho.

fighting with multiple creatures is kinda weird though. also lol @ that card in general

so Wastes are basic lands for draft purposes right? idk what they're doing just seems strange, really believe BFZ should have had this mechanic as well

you have to draft wastes

set definitely looks like a pretty big step up from BFZ, lots of cards I'm liking

there are a lot of really strange things about this set