I say "yet", I mean, it's an album I've had for over twenty years
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 10 December 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link
When they released remastered versions of the albums a couple of years back, the remastered "River" was in some ways most revelatory. Vocals, bass lines, organ parts, etc. that I had never heard or noticed before. This new set uses that same remaster. Speaking of the new set, while some of the unreleased stuff sounds like, well, unreleased stuff, none of it is bad, and some of tracks are absolutely smoking. While I don't like that Bruce adds new music and vox and stuff to some of the music from the vaults, I guess I do like how this stuff has come to light. First "Tracks," then "The Promise," then "The River." Those re-releases alone have given us 8 or so CDs worth of "new" old Bruce music, with very little repetition, some of it never heard before even as bootlegs, some of it, maybe even much of it, on par with his best work. And I can still think of another disc or two of known good stuff that has yet to get official release, so who knows what we'll get for the inevitable BitUSA/Nebraska set.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIni5l8oBXA
^Some interesting stuff in here, not only lines that popped up decades later in "Radio Nowhere," but possibly a reference to Magazine's "Shot By Both Sides."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
Well, those went quick. I failed to get The River tour tickets for DC, as they sold out online in minutes. Someone I know up in Rochester, NY got in line at 8:15 am there for the 10 am ticket sale, and got tickets in Rochester by 10:15 am. Oh well, I saw him way back when
― curmudgeon, Friday, 11 December 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
think the bruce "album in its entirety set" i'd pay to see is actually the passaic nights bootleg. just listening to it yesterday, unbelievable.
― tylerw, Friday, 11 December 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link
I got myself one (1) ticket for the Cleveland show, since I've never seen him before.
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Friday, 11 December 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link
Scratch that, I saw him and Patty Scialfa do a few songs at an Obama rally back in 2008. But obvs that's a lot different.
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Friday, 11 December 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
Official ticket sales are so corrupt. A couple of years ago I had no problem getting tickets to see him at Wrigley Field a week or so in advance.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 December 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
it's clarence clemons' last hurrah as bruce's official sidekick...whereas by born in the usa, he's become one piece of an ensemble
Maybe on record, but Clarence was still the key band member in the live shows, especially on the Born In The USA tour.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 11 December 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
kinda want to see this tour, am on the fence abt $$
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 December 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
me too. i'm kinda like whoever it was above in that the river is the least fave of his classic albums. i like it but i'm pretty always more likely to reach for a different one when i'm in the mood for bruce. at the same time i think this is the material i'd be most interested in seeing him dive into live. idk if that makes any sense.
― balls, Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:17 (eight years ago) link
Tunnel of Love is his best album.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link
i'm pretty sure i had that as my #1 in the poll. what from the past 15 or so years do i really need to check out? i think the only thing i've heard much at all post-tom joad are the seeger sessions and that was just when i happened to be at borders.
― balls, Saturday, 12 December 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link
Love the Seeger Sessions. Lots of The Rising has aged well. Some of Magic and bits of Devils and Dust. None of Working on a Dream or High Hopes, save maybe a song. Definitely Wrecking Ball, which is solid.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 December 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link
"long time comin'" off of devils & dust is like a top ten springsteen song for me
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 December 2015 02:44 (eight years ago) link
also really love basically the entire first half of magic after which it really slips away
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 December 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link
I can dwell forever in the organ solo in "Two Faces."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 December 2015 02:48 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, that album is a masterpiece. It's everything after that's winners and losers, and don't caught on the wrong side of that line.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 December 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link
one who LAUGHSone who CRIESone sez helloone seezzzz GOOOOODBYE
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 December 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
The Wild the Innocent will always be my fav, feel like he lost so much rhythmic interest musically after that
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 December 2015 03:47 (eight years ago) link
That is kind of on the money but feel like some remnant of rhythmic interest remained until Max took one too many drum lessons before or during the recording of Born In The USA.
― Thank you very much, you've got a Lucky Wilbury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 December 2015 03:55 (eight years ago) link
The River has a lot of songs I love but it's like listening to a shuffled playlist, it doesnt feel like an album to me
which is kinda nerdy i know but i prefer a bit of flow
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 December 2015 04:51 (eight years ago) link
but tbrr there are few greater feelings in my life than immediately after a bruce show
dude has restorative healing powers
which is why i kinda want to see this show
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 December 2015 04:53 (eight years ago) link
idk it feels very much like an album to me, especially on vinyl. I love the sequencing, the way each of the four sides ends in a downtempo number that fatally undercuts the optimism of what has gone before
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Thursday, 17 December 2015 11:22 (eight years ago) link
It's a great example of a sprawling album that benefits from sides. Like Sandinista!, which is sort of overwhelming as a double CD rather than triple LP.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
You can blame Jon Landau for a lot of that. Losing David Sancious didn't help.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
And losing Vinnie "Mad Dog" Lopez.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
Watched the Fallon interview, and for an ass-kisser he just gets so much information wrong. What a tool.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 December 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
The Ties That Bind is on the BBC IPlayer at the minute, I don't know how long the DVD version is, at 60 mins this might be an edited version.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06s71sv/bruce-springsteen-the-ties-that-bind
― MaresNest, Thursday, 24 December 2015 10:49 (eight years ago) link
I had sort of resigned myself to not going to see Springsteen on Tuesday, but then I saw this on his Facebook page:https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12485823_10153724399460250_6639444703948459920_o.jpg
That means "The River" start to finish, followed by (possibly): Badlands, Wrecking Ball, Backstreets, Because the Night, Brilliant Disguise (!), The Rising, Thunder Road, Born to Run, Bobby Jean, Dancing in the Dark and the return of Rosalita!!!
Needless to say, I got off my butt and did some clicking, and lucked (paid) into GA seats, which is the best possible outcome. I am a happy man.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link
Hey hope that's a great show. My pops is bugging me to go & I may consider it. It's pricey & United Center/Ticketbastard/afraid-I'm-gonna-see-the-strings-holding-them-up acts have gotten too much bread from me lately.
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 15 January 2016 01:46 (eight years ago) link
I mean, it worked out OK. General Admission means I can get as close as I can/want, and because those tix started out at $50 the Ticketmaster/fee/secondary market shell game scam of a markup basically put the ticket on par with the original price of his "good" seats. So more or less $150, and of course GA is as good as it gets in my book. Not cheap, but as we've all been reminded, no one lives forever. I feel very fortunate that I've gotten free tickets to so many hundreds of shows over the years, huge and small. If I cheaped out for one of my favorite acts of all time, and one of the best live acts of all time, I'd feel like a chump.
Speaking of which, the current Ticketmaster system is so much worse than it's ever been, a shameful hall of mirrors. Tell me where I'm wrong here: tickets go on sale, sell out immediately (5 seconds in Chicago). Bruce tix are not that much, relative to comparable acts; GA is $50. So someone gets one of those $50 tickets, pays fees and stuff that pump it up another $25, which TM pockets. Then that person turns around and resells the ticket on the TM site at three times face ... and TM gets to pocket another set of those same fees. So TM not only still makes it easy for people to buy and horde tix with the intent to sell them, but actually gives those sellers a platform on which to sell them, doubling its fees in the process. It's really ridiculous.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2016 02:26 (eight years ago) link
https://burjintheburbs.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/chris-traeger_pr1.jpg
"Irving Azoff is <literally> THE DEVIL."
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 January 2016 02:44 (eight years ago) link
man I hope he brings this tour to Europe in the summer
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Friday, 15 January 2016 10:08 (eight years ago) link
pays fees and stuff that pump it up another $25, which TM pockets
As a former TM employee, I can tell you you're slightly wrong here. The venue sets (and collects) all those "convenience" charges.
and TM gets to pocket another set of those same fees
This is probably true, since the venue has already had their way with your wallet.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 15 January 2016 13:47 (eight years ago) link
Bruce tix are not that much, relative to comparable acts; GA is $50
Those were $150 list without service charges in DC. I consider that a lot. They sold out in 2 minutes
― curmudgeon, Friday, 15 January 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link
Huh, I think you're right! I missed the one. Which I guess means I just somehow got a GA seat a couple of days before the show. Maybe they released more?
Anyway, I said relative to comparable acts. Just scanning, for best seats for Lucinda Williams in a few months is $65, AC/DC is $140, Mumford & Songs is $60, Adele is $150 ... $150 for GA Bruce ain't cheap but it isn't that bad, considering I can just shuffle my way right up front if I wanted.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
Anyway, when I look at what I paid, there was a $17.50 "service fee" and $6.50 "processing fee." These go to the venue? Regardless, given the exclusive arrangement Ticketmaster/Live Nation has with these arenas, it seems to me like one giant pool of money being skimmed off the top. At least the United Center is providing an actual service. Ticketmaster is like health insurance. Bunch of fuckers that offers nothing, let alone "convenience."
I read the way it used to work with Bruce at least was you'd send in money to an address and they'd send you tickets.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link
Nice that you have the GA ticket. I had one for him at the United Center for The Rising - definitely a good way to go.
― longform Gordon thinkpiece (Eazy), Friday, 15 January 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link
Tell me where I'm wrong here: tickets go on sale, sell out immediately (5 seconds in Chicago). Bruce tix are not that much, relative to comparable acts; GA is $50. So someone gets one of those $50 tickets, pays fees and stuff that pump it up another $25, which TM pockets. Then that person turns around and resells the ticket on the TM site at three times face ... and TM gets to pocket another set of those same fees. So TM not only still makes it easy for people to buy and horde tix with the intent to sell them, but actually gives those sellers a platform on which to sell them, doubling its fees in the process. It's really ridiculous.
ticketmaster (or any other ticket company) controlling both sides of that business is problematic in a million different ways.
but the other, missing element here: the thousands of seats that never go on sale in the first place, but instead go straight to the promoter or label or other business interests, who immediately put them on the secondary market themselves. which is to say, for a huge chunk of seats, there is no initial sale. there is only the secondary market. the secondary market has become, in many ways, the primary market.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 15 January 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
https://www.periscope.tv/mpslater/1OdKrkEpqaOGX
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 04:05 (eight years ago) link
^Per some predictions, Springsteen covering "Rebel Rebel" at his tour kickoff.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 04:07 (eight years ago) link
Spoilers? 3.5 hours, Bowie cover, dusting off some seldom-played once staples (Rosalita) and some seldom-played never staples (Brilliant Disguise). I can't believe dude is 66. I wonder how long he can keep this sort of set up? Anyway, if it's anything or just like this, super-excited about Tuesday here.
Meet Me in the CityThe Ties That BindSherry DarlingJackson CageTwo HeartsIndependence DayHungry HeartOut In The StreetCrush On YouYou Can Look (But You Better Not Touch)I Wanna Marry YouThe RiverPoint BlankCadillac RanchI'm A RockerFade AwayStolen CarRamrodThe Price You PayDrive All NightWreck On The Highway
BadlandsWrecking BallBackstreetsBecause the NightThe RisingThunder Road
Encore:Rebel RebelBobby JeanDancing in the DarkBorn to RunRosalita (Come Out Tonight)Shout
Oh, and because I posted a better quality version on the Bowie thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgmhF0XV8uA
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link
Thanks. So I didn't have to sign up for a periscope account after all?
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
Also , so he really hardly ever plays Rosalita?
Sorry for double post, I blame zing glitch. Usually it errs on the other side and sends multiple messages if it thinks you are double or cross posting.
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
I've seen him seven or eight times in the last five years or so, and he's played Rosalita every time.
― Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Sunday, 17 January 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link
Hmm. I've probably seen him play close to 20 times and have heard him play it twice. I looked at this nerd site: https://brucebase.wikispaces.com/Rosalita+%28Come+Out+Tonight%29
https://brucebase.wikispaces.com/file/view/rosalita-graph.png/392298080/rosalita-graph.png
Maybe just not often in Chicago? A lot overseas, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link
RFI for Something I Don't Know How To Find: wasn't there a video someone posted once of a live version of "I'm Goin' Down," I think, proceeded by a long monologue about when relationships hit the doldrums?
― Blackstar Linus Must Change (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link