Stone Temple Pilots

Relistening to all this stuff. Forgot that they jacked Lush for Big Bang Baby. Going to go listen to Lush now instead.

― how's life, Monday, December 7, 2015 6:59 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As someone who's never listened to Lush, what Lush song sounds like it? Because if there are more songs that sound like Big Bang Baby in the world, I want to hear them.

There's a piece in "Big Bang Baby" that cops from the chorus of Lush's "For Love," obliquely.

They are not the same vibe really, but I've cued these youtubes up to the salient parts:

https://youtu.be/G0gAxuvo5rc?t=1m40s
https://youtu.be/iYF7VFvzWGo?t=46s

There's a piece in "Big Bang Baby" that cops from the chorus of Lush's "For Love," obliquely.

Also, "Jumping Jack Flash"

No shit, really?

rufus - who is in the 8th grade - just told me that his teacher brought up pearl jam one day and asked the class - 18 kids - if they knew who pearl jam was and rufus was the only one who raised his hand.

which i guess makes sense.

played a show the other night and my friend's band opened their set with "Interstate Love Song," really brought a smile to my face

rufus - who is in the 8th grade - just told me that his teacher brought up pearl jam one day and asked the class - 18 kids - if they knew who pearl jam was and rufus was the only one who raised his hand.

This reminds me of when I was in 4th grade in 1980 and our teacher was super-upset about John Lennon being shot and none of us knew who he was and my memory is that this made her all the more stricken, like she was all alone with the news

aww, poor teacher.

i was 12 when lennon died. i remember being sad. and i remember going to a department store with my mom and in the electronics department all the televisions had john lennon news on them. just rows and rows of crying fans and distraught people being interviewed. that was media saturation before the internet.

Stuff like that makes me feel kind of glad for our level of jadedness.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/12/scott-weiland-died-from-an-accidental-drug-overdose-according-to-medical-examiner/

imagine Kurt accidentally overdosing on cough syrup and ambien in his van on the way home from a solo gig at trans pecos

I was also 12 when Lennon died. We asked our history teacher (probably in her late 50s or early 60s) to hold a minute of silence, and she didn't understand what we were talking about.

very sad for scott. saw them several times in the 90s and wish i could have figured out his bowie/glam lineage as a teenager. was it discussed in music press back then?

yeah, it became a pretty overt talking point by the time of Tiny Music.

Damn. Not exactly an uncommon party cocktail there.

dumb question but can someone explain that combination to me?

i dont really understand the ethanol, mainly

That's just booze, right?

Looked like a night of alcohol, ecstasy, and coke, but who knows to what extent. Also given his age and other health issues, yeah, that would probably be kinda risky.

oh i didnt know ppl drank it for kicks

i thought that was like hard times desperation like getting drunk on mouthwash

No, I'm sure he was just drinking booze, they just decided to use whatever toxicology language. Ethanol here basically means alcohol.

ohhhh ok duh

thank you!!

Seems like a lot of people who get into Heroin and kick it but still want to party do everything else they can to an absurd degree. It's ugly.

good god, "Trippin on a Hole in a Paper Heart" is an incredible fucking song.

i'm finally getting around to my own little retrospective and Big Bang Baby is really rocking me, that soaring bridge (second chorus?) w/ "take it away boys", TEARS i tell ya

i remember hearing WHFS premiere "Big Bang Baby" and it just sounded incredibly intense and perfect -- in retrospect the low budget video is fun and cool-looking but at the time it felt like this deflating antithesis of what the song felt like in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRjtLtLCpnk

tiny music is fucking good. "Lady Picture Show" !!!

Detailed new feature here:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/6859089/scott-weiland-final-months-friends-family-talk-mental-illness-family-struggles

Does anybody remember the anono-band Art of Anarchy (Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, formerly of Guns N' Roses, Jon Moyer, formerly of Disturbed, and two nobodies)? Their debut album, which I never heard, had Weiland on vocals. Anyway, earlier this week there were rumors that Scott Stapp was going to be the new singer for Stone Temple Pilots, a rumor that was quickly shot down by the band...and now it's revealed that Stapp is, in fact, the new singer for Art of Anarchy.

This has been your daily Post-Grunge Meathead Radio Rock Musical Chairs update.

I saw the name and thought "Wasn't that the band with the singer from Filter?"

Which was actually Army of Anyone.

Which I had forgotten the DeLeo brothers were also members of.

Weird...

trippin on a hole in a paper heart fucking bangs

Had never seen this performance with Junior Brown before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4h-VtWwo3I

(it's not the greatest performance, but it makes me happy just the same)

Killer hat!

how much walking shoes worn thin would be acceptable?

I didn't realize they've now had two entire albums with their post-Bennington singer. Maybe they should have resurrected Talk Show instead.

this post came up randomly on my timeline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlQKPwmw_Zs

a different scott. really sad to think what happened to him after

i was reading a bit about him and had no idea he was actually abused as a child

Agreed. It's very sad to think of just how much he degraded in the span of 25 years. A cautionary tale in what addiction can really do to you.

When Weiland passed away, I made this post on my Facebook and this thread reminded me of it...

I am pretty sure that I did the first major interview with Scott Weiland. I was writing for Creem and the label flew me out to interview Stone Temple Pilots when they were supporting Megadeth in the midwest. I forget the itinerary but it involved flying into one place, traveling for a night with the band and flying back to New York, with most of my time being spent in Missouri.

I was able to use the hang time with the band to flesh out the story of the band coming out of the chute and breaking right when Sex Type Thing was starting to get massive radio play.

I have fond memories of the trip - drummer Eric Kretz was a really great guy, I introduced those West Coasters to the wonder that is White Castle (the tour bus stopped by and we ordered like 100 of them at my suggestion - with the unheeded warning that it was the only food that would give you a hangover, man did that bus reek the next day) and I got to hear an amazing story in catering from Nick Menza about the line of cute Asian groupies at the Japanese hotel room of Marty Friedman and how he needed an ice pack on his balls afterwards.

And of course, it was cool to be right in the middle of a band exploding into the mainstream living their dreams.

The key part of the story was breakfast in a Shoney's near the band's hotel with Weiland by himself. He let me pick the Shoney's because I used to work there as one of my earliest jobs when I was a teenager.

We had a really nice chat, which made up most of the piece if memory serves. At one point, we got onto what the whirlwind was like, what he would call success.

As if on cue, some dude came by the table to say hi to the singer. The guy mentioned how he played in a cover band and they were working out "Sex Type Thing" to add to their set.

After he left, Weiland turned to me and laughed and said "I think that's a sign you've made it, when someone in a Shoney's in Missouri says he's covering your stuff." Which would up being the endtro to my story.

The band wound up becoming huge. My guess is that the trappings of that success is one of the reasons he was found dead at 48 (just two years older than I am) on a tour bus yesterday.

I was never a huge fan of the band, personally - they had a few good songs but were more derivative than I cared for - but it was cool to be a small part in helping them succeed even if it seemed that Weiland kind of lost the path a few times there.

I hope that somewhere along the line he was able to remember what it was like when having someone in a midwest breakfast chain telling him that they were doing one of his songs was one of the coolest things in the world.

I did a big piece on him for Kerrang! just as Velvet Revolver was happening, got flown out to his studio in LA and got the whole spiel on his drug addiction and losing his family and almost dying and so on. The studio was lovely, but he'd thrown a bin at the glass between the control room and the studio and it was intact but shattered, and he'd spray-painted "fuck" across it. He told me he was clean and would never stray again, because he didn't want to lose his wife and kid again. But it seemed pretty clear to me that he was in no way okay. I was supposed to meet up with some friends in LA bands that night but I felt so depressed afterwards I cancelled and just took a long bath in my hotel room that night. He seemed so sad.