Taking Sides: Workingman's Dead vs American Beauty

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yikes if there's overlap between deadheads & music theatre geeks

velko, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

American Beauty by a long shot: better songs, better pacing, more diverse instrumentation.

was looking for a Europe '72 thread fwiw

flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

No way dude
Workingman's is stranger and less predictable

calstars, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

Like the chords of / high time / and the misery of / black Peter /

calstars, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

Guess Scott's right, come to think of it; I still haven't heard that many country, folk etc. covers of these songs----but here's a good "Ripple" from Hot Club of Cowtown's singer-fiddle Elana James, on her second solo album---nice steel guitar too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYPlm0iVDMI

dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link

Also performed by my cousin's bros at his memorial; that was good too.

dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

Some timd ago I was listening to 60s retro radio show on an area college station. They accidentally played two cuts in a row from AB ("Friend of The Devil" and "Sugar Magnolia"), and afterwards the DJ remarked that it was one of the only albums they could think of from a group with multiple singers where each of the first four songs has a different lead (Phil, Jerry, Bob, Pigpen). Found that interesting.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

Lol flappy's revive pretty much sums up my Dead semi-fandom

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

I need to track down that 'lost' album

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

Both are great, but if I had to pick just one it would be WD, with "Dire Wolf" being by favorite track.

o. nate, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link

Cumberland Blues is probably my favorite Dead track, and it's on Workingman's Dead. Then again, Ripple is probably my second favorite Dead track...

human music...I like it! (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 04:35 (six years ago) link

I like the version of CB on Europe 72 better though

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 05:34 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Who can name all the personages on the WD cover?

calstars, Saturday, 29 September 2018 05:00 (five years ago) link

err, isn't it just the band + Robert Hunter?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 29 September 2018 06:02 (five years ago) link

Workingman's is stranger and less predictable

this and especially

Like the chords of / high time / and the misery of / black Peter /

this

are otm

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 September 2018 10:08 (five years ago) link

this is a really arbitrary decision but i'd have to go with workingman's bc of how much i love "dire wolf" and "casey jones"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 September 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link

I think my favorite is whichever one is playing RIGHT NOW

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 September 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

this is the lamest possible way to get into the grateful dead but i remember i bought american beauty in college just bc of how much i loved the counting crows cover of "friend of the devil." took me a while to adjust tbh

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 September 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link

there is no bad way

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 September 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

love those seasick chord changes in "high time"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 September 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

Freaks and Geeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRHZr3VlpgE

(Ends with the two lead female characters setting out for a summer--or a lifetime--as Deadheads.)

clemenza, Saturday, 29 September 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link

Agreed that I prefer Workingman's Dead, not just because Cumberland Blues is my fav Dead song. Beauty has some transcendent classics sitting beside mediocrities (Ripple is incredible, Candyman not so much), but Workingman's Dead stays at a fairly high level throughout.

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Saturday, 29 September 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

candyman is so good! that pedal steel solo!

marcos, Saturday, 29 September 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

i think as much as i associate both albums with each other they have very distinct moods for me, american beauty is kinda this shining shimmering thing and workingman's is pretty ghostly and introverted throughout. at the moment i think i prefer the second mood but i also feel like it could easily switch back in the next 5-10 years

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 September 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

Back to the cover, I guess bill is on the stairs, Mickey is talking to pigpen, and hunter’s on the far left. Those were the three I wasn’t sure about

calstars, Saturday, 29 September 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

Here is more info about that cover than you ever wanted to know:

http://www.popspotsnyc.com/workingmans_dead/

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 29 September 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link


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