Twitter C/D

theres a thinkpiece abt the decline of middle class stability and the rise of that word floating in the ether

hustling clicks

Who got catfished on weird Twitter I wanna know

max

i cant believe max convinced the women of online to make out with drydickrando

Hoping moscaddie's actually a dude

http://i.imgur.com/jnmxJl2.png

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when famous ppl who dont really understand twitter get on there and fight with everyone and look foolish is one of the best things about the platform

like i have no idea what hes talking abt dont follow him was just making fun of saying ad homs

remember when glenn greenwald used to respond to everyone who made fun of him lmao

ppl have a thing about respect, like hey, this rapscallion disrespected me, as did these 13 other rapscallions that followed, i will have satisfaction and the last word with all of them

ya lol its like exactly the opposite of what they shd do

http://i.imgur.com/sdTzzry.png

attempting to school him

lol

fighting the good fight

jeffrey wright used to get into fights with randos

most celebs who do that seem to constantly find themselves posting a string of "enough for one night, some real morons out there, as per usual" type tweets, circa midnight, every few weeks.

slightly lesser celebrity but the golfer, lee westwood, had a memorable meltdown after getting abuse for playing a terrible round.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/aug/12/lee-westwood-attack-twitter-trolls

The parent humblebrag thing is so common - seems more so with fathers than mothers tho.

kind of diff genre but let's not forget that james woods sued a twitter for calling him a cokehead

Twitter-dad humblebrag, succinctly: MY SEED, IT WORKS.

Respect to any whose offspring are now well into their 20s or older.

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@rupertmurdoch

Billionaire tyrant and father of six (that I know of ;p)
Joined December 2011

whole lotta ad homs on twitter

love RT ad homs, to endorse them

ime people who whine about ad hominem arguments are annoying nerds who assume twitter is their own personal debate club

like to expand that to ppl who complain abt all sorts of fallacies and say i wld beat them up

its funny too cause twitter is terrible for srs reasoned debate cause theres not enough words and ppl just end up totally misunderstanding each other

i searched twitter once for ppl using the phrase 'logical fallacy' and gamergate hashtags and printed them all out and made a collage of them

im really fascinated by the currency that 'logic' has amongst fringe right-wing ideologues on-line, the need for governing authority or w/e

Love twitter. Can not understand people who get into beefs and arguments on the thing. It's like yelling at someone in a passing car.

i've posted plenty about the weird 'logic/emotion' binary these ppl are obsessed with, it's usually to complain that others make decisions or have stances based on 'emotion' (often women)

really it's ironic because the ppl who say this are big whiny babies

well, when someone is going on about how logical and rational they are being...reach for your gun, as the saying goes.

i guess that's maybe a different species from libertarians who are all "i'm just going to analyze this from first principles, why hasn't anyone ever done that before" - just as ugh

the appeal to logic, the primacy of 'critical thinking', the desire for 'objectivity' are all interesting parts of neo-reactionary discourse on-line. the emotions are for girls/the weak thing is part of it, the gameifiction approach to life, general silicon valley life as optimization puzzle stuff leads to the desire for a concrete, solvable method of arguing? also just the general fear of ambiguity, uncertainty, complexity (particularly verbal complexity).

i've posted plenty about the weird 'logic/emotion' binary these ppl are obsessed with, it's usually to complain that others make decisions or have stances based on 'emotion' (often women)

i see this, but like, lots of really moronic viewpoints are illogical, eg patriotism, religious zealotry or whatever, logic is important.

like p much all arguments ever involve someone saying "that doesn't make any sense..."

critical thinking skills are important, "logic" less so

their versions of 'logic' and 'emotion' or w/e have nothing to do with the actual concepts

Yeah but some issues require knowing actual facts about the world to reason well. MRAs etc lecturing about logical fallacies tend to avoid learning about the experiences of other people.

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i am a logical, objective man and will scream at you how you are wrong

an interesting point, but what say you to my unsolicited rebuttal?

their versions of 'logic' and 'emotion' or w/e have nothing to do with the actual concepts

obv don't agree with using a binary of logic and emotion, or with the mra type you're discussing.

but "critical thinking" is just another way of saying "logic" - there's nothing wrong with "logic" as a concept just because some idiots have used it to abuse people or patronise them. i'm sure you can find someone doing this with "critical thinking", that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with that as a concept.

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i am very pro-logic but as i like to say the problem with people who claim "logic" and "reason" are on their side is that they never love those things as much as they claim. they don't really care enough about logic to really follow it through.

and p much everyone lets their wants or desires or whatever cloud logic prob 30 times a week, no one is immune. but it's prob still something to strive for. like dismissing that "you are being illogical and emotional" person would prob require logic too...

speaking of being pro-logic, i just read this yesterday and thought it was really interesting (had no idea about the mental imagery controversy and considered polling ilx on the topic):
http://lesswrong.com/lw/dr/generalizing_from_one_example/

no one wants u to know about the fallacy fallacy tho

my posts dont really have anything to do with logical or critical thinking as actual things in the world, just more curious abt how they became totems for diverse neo-reactionary groups across the internet. like gamergate types for example will consistently accuse ppl with different viewpoints of lacking critical thinking, in ways that dont particularly line-up with the conventional meaning of the term. its interesting how widespread this tactic is on the right to me? idk it just seems representative of a lot of the anxieties that ppl on the far-right have abt modernity, the search for authority &c.

Dawkins is probably the ultimate "LOGICS FIRST, EMPATHY NEVER" poster bloke in this regard.

i tend to think people who appeal to logic do so as a way of bolstering their authority as a speaker, not so much in the service of argument. ethos over logos, in rhetorical terms. using "logic" to justify an emotionally held belief is cart-before-horse stuff and extremely common

Logic blows lmao

logic is good for finding out who is a bitch ass nerd

h8 rationalism