Mystery Science Theater 3000: C/D, S/D.

You can't go SoL again.

Shit, I wish they were aiming for avclubbers, feels more like they're aiming for Nerdist.

The whole thing is a Nerdist/Geek & Sundry production, isn't it? It certainly feels that way.

feel like joel found a community of sycophantic successful people among the la comedy dude scene in the last couple years and when the rights came back to him he wanted to do it all himself/his way with his new pals. probably very organic and natural in joel's world but a total turn off to fans like me.

I like Vaughn and Yount, so I'm still somewhat interested

i still want to believe it could turn out being great and i'd look like a real jackass for doubting. but part of me already feels like it's a mistake, that just going through with the hype and the campaign and stuff has ended up damaging joel's reputation in my mind, or how i think about that lovable guy on the screen with the robots... it's stirred up some stuff we probably could or should have known about years ago (re: compensation, his relationships with the rest of the cast) but that everybody was apparently willing to keep under their hats. but this is basically a selfish response on my part: i don't want my heroes to have feet of clay. in real life, my heroes would like to find steady work doing something they love and who am i to tell joel hodgson not to follow his bliss? i dunno. again, maybe it could turn out being great.

okay one thing: wouldn't have killed them to make the host a woman. just saying. one of those things that i definitely didn't pick up on watching this show in 1993 but that now (very occasionally) really leaps out of me in 2015. show's a sausagefest aside from mary jo pehl. that doesn't reflect its fanbase imho, but it does maybe reflect the kinda gross feeling of a lot of actual real-life riffers who think they're funnier than they are, getting together and not actually being that funny. now i'm projecting my feelings from disappointing nerd podcasts back onto the show again and i know that's not really fair. blah! just saying.

Real talk

Yeah no disagreement with any of that.

And I think Kurt S said it right too a couple of posts back.

beyond the humor so much of the appeal of the original show was in its cable access show budget feel and how these cats just emerged out of minnesota with this amazing program. i started watching it around the same time as my friends started passing around crappy VHS dubs of john woo movies, and kids in the hall was on late night CBS, and it was just this really great time for off-the-radar cult shit.

i'm not gonna get too upset about it, i guess. the show is impossible to ruin for me at this point. it just reminds me a bit of the time they brought back WKRP in the '90s with michael des barres and tawny kitaen or whoever seemed like a great idea to cast at the time. i agree on the la comedy dude scene thing. the rest of the guys i think don't live in l.a.? pretty sure trace moved back to MN after his AFV gig wrapped.

New update

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/bringbackmst3k/posts/1432821

With this:

Finally: I've started reaching out to all of the original cast to make formal offers. I can’t share specifics, but Shout Factory has been working with me to figure out how we can make it work for everyone.

Before you ask, I don't know who will decide to come back and who won't. Some of them are busy with other projects, and a few of them have said they just don't feel like getting involved right now. Whatever they decide, I will respect their decision... but I'm hopeful that some of them will come back and join us. And if it doesn't happen now, maybe they'll come back in the future. The door will always be open.

Plus this:

On the next season of MST3K, I'm planning to put a set of official "Mission Patches" on Jonah's jumpsuit. You'll be able to see them on camera, and they'll look something like this:

https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/015/731/f59d3bbcde587b26eb3e668cf95f7388_original.gif?v=1449084901&w=639&fit=max&q=92&s=38e1d952e956317da4e601f20ee57f19

Anyway, as you can see, each patch states the number of "MISSIONS" that the host has been on, which is just something I wanted to do to give Jonah a sense of perspective on things. He's joining a pretty elite group, and I've seen him get cocky, so this set of patches represent a subtle "hazing" process for Mr. Heston.

hm, that seems like kind of a dick move

please let part of the hazing be he has to shave his goatee

or goatee beard, whatever the fuck that is

unrelated, but killing me right now:

"There's been an accident at the studio, sir."
"We made Hobgoblins."

Excellent unrelated joke

Also unrelated: Other Space S01E07 "Be a Buddy, Not a Bully!" was one of my favorite robot moments ever. Good use of establishing the buddy campaign early on just for that one joke.

Updates updates.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/bringbackmst3k/posts/1435392/

A note for next week:

Every night next week, we'll be livestreaming a different MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000 DOUBLE FEATURE: two of our favorite episodes, back-to-back!

Just like our Turkey Day Marathon, each night's MST3K DOUBLE FEATURE will include one episode from when I hosted, and one from when Mike hosted. I'll do a new introduction for each movie, and then we can all watch and riff together on Twitter and Facebook. Maybe we'll even share more fan letters!

From Monday to Thursday, join me each night at 4pm or 7pm PST.

On Friday (our final day!) we'll start at 2pm PST. That's because we've got something really special planned from 5-10pm PST to end our Kickstarter. So, I also hope you'll save time to join us for our final countdown. I'll tell you more about that on Monday.

well hey, I'm down for that

Christ on a cracker:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/bringbackmst3k/posts/1439433

4. OUR GUEST WRITERS

But remember, now that we’re doing somewhere between 9 and 12 episodes, I’m happy to report that a lot of our amazing friends have agreed to come join us as guest writers. Here’s a list of writers who have already agreed to come help out:

DAN HARMON, the incredible mind who created Community, hosts the Harmontown podcast, and co-creator of the very funny Rick & Morty.
JUSTIN ROILAND, the other creator of Rick & Morty, as well as a very talented voice actor/comedian/artist, and a huge MSTie.
ROB SCHRAB, an original remote writer for MST3K, co-founder of the seminal Channel 101… and now, director of the next Lego Movie.
NELL SCOVELL, a long-time collaborator and friend, will be “in the house” too. She’s currently writing on the The Muppet Show but has worked on The Simpsons, Newhart and It’s Garry Shandling’s Show, among others.
ERNIE CLINE, the New York Times best-selling author of Ready Player One, which will soon be a movie from Steven Spielberg! If you’ve read RP1, you know how good Ernie is with cultural references.
PAT ROTHFUSS, the New York Times best-selling author of The Name of Wind, has offered to have a “story breakfast” with me and go over “story beats” for the next series… and a few of you can join us!
PAUL & STORM, the hilarious musical act, W00tstock founders and stars, musical contributors to Despicable Me 2, my good friends and the hosts for Friday’s live “Final Countdown Telethon” will be contributing riffs and some special music!
DANA GOULD, the brilliant comedian and former Simpsons writer, who will also probably appear on camera as well for a cameo or two. But actually, that gets into the area of our Guest Cameos, which is a topic I want to save for tomorrow.
ROBERT LOPEZ, the EGOT-winning songwriter from Avenue Q, The Book of Mormon and Frozen, has offered to write some original songs for us!

Seriously, Cline of all people.

Somehow this explains this:

So, like I said, we've now made offers to all of MST's original writers. While it seems like most of them won't be available to join us, at least for now, I still hope they’ll decide to join us later. We'll always be glad to have them back, even if it's just for an episode or two when they can spare some time.

rolling thread of stuff worth reading on videogames is all i know about Cline and it's not good.

btw for those playing along at home, that's one woman out of ten guest writers. dunno what exactly that speaks to but it does intensify my worried sense that joel's circle of good people to draw on has gotten pretty lopsdied. :-/

still just totally contemptuous of that a-wings at yavin howler

oh god that list this is going to be insufferable

ugh fucking gross

never heard of w00tstock, are its founders and stars a bigger or smaller get than jonathan coulton would have been

I know you guys are nervous but I still want to be excited about this in general.

i've been to like 3 w00tstocks, love paul & storm but still dunno what i think of all this

witholding judgement til i see the thing

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Well THAT about sums it up.

BTW seeing this from Elvis T in 2003 shows how so much has rapidly changed:

Well, I do have broadband and a sum total of 150GB of storage over a couple of drives. My consumption rate of DVD-R blanks is pretty scary.

Ha! FYI Ned, whenever I think of how many MST episodes we've worked through over the past three years and think "Man, I've become quite the MST expert in my thirties," I see your first response in this thread before my eyes.

Is there anywhere else on the internet expressing doubts about this reboot besides ILX? Actually curious, I haven't been looking!

From the get-go most have made their peace with the idea that it wouldn't be MST3K the way we know it.

yes but over the slow drip of info it's crossed that line from being something new to being something you once cherished now being the realm of unfunny hacks. i would trade the new host and half the writers for TV's Frank

Harmon is involved, let me guess, the robots will be drunk, how funny

The 'bots have been drunk. Multiple times. Gypsy's days are wine and roses and Richard Basehart.

my favorite post itt

jess (dubplatestyle)
Posted: May 27, 2003 at 1:41:06 PM
mitchell roxx u r all john saxon

Now what.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/bringbackmst3k/posts/1440198

Now, listen: there's no way we can 100% guarantee this stuff, because these nice folks are all really busy… but they're also really big fans of MST3K, and they've each said that if we can fit into their schedules, they'd love to do a cameo in one of our new episodes!

So, here are a few performers who are interested in appearing on MST3K next season:

JACK BLACK, the brilliant comic actor and musician, star of everything from the Kung Fu Panda films to the wonderful School of Rock… though to some people, of course, he's better known as one-half of Tenacious D. So, I don't wanna tell you anything about what I'm planning for his character… but I think it would be a lot of fun to have him perform a song.
JOEL MCHALE, who I first knew as the hilariously dry host of The Soup, and who has been expanding his acting career into television (as the star of Community) and film (the Ted movies). I met Joel at a friend's wedding last year, and we became fast friends. He's a really nice guy, so even though he's in demand for big-time revivals like The X-Files, he says he's up for joining us too!
BILL HADER, the incredible changeling/actor/impressionist who has appeared in everything from SNL to Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs to Trainwreck. I’ve always been amazed by Bill's talents, and was finally introduced to him backstage at SNL by a mutual friend.
NEIL PATRICK HARRIS is a true renaissance man whose career spans film, TV, the broadway stage and the internet, where he appeared opposite our own Felicia Day in Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Funny enough, though, I actually met Neil through mutual friends at the Los Angeles Magic History Conference, where we geeked out on magic together. Also, I'm honored to point out that Neil has always been a MSTie. In fact, he was included in first MST documentary – This is MST3K – all the way back in his Doogie Howser days!
JERRY SEINFELD, my long time friend, and of course, one of our most brilliant stand-up comedians. Jerry was also the co-creator of Seinfeld, and the creator and host of my favorite concept for a talk show, Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. You know, I’ve known this guy for over thirty years. I actually remember him from when he only had one car.

A JACK BLACK SONG IN MST3K, GREAT.

Also, buried a bit beneath all the other news...a bit of a late pass here:

Now, those are just some of the amazing and talented performers who have offered to stop into the show. But you know, as much as I love all of these guys, let's face it: it's a little bit male-centric.

I've gotta tell you: that wasn't intentional. I guess I just have a harder time meeting women these days? But listen, if any female celebrities are reading this, and happen to be fans of MST3K, please let me know! And if your names happen to be Tina Fey, Lily Tomlin or Amy (Poehler and Schumer) – a few of my current comedy heroes – call me! We're bringing back MST3K and would love for you to do a cameo!

Bill Hader and Joel McHale actually make me a little interested in this again

Oh, Joel.

actually can we take control of this away from Joel and give it to Will Forte?

"i have a harder time meeting women these days"
"if your names happen to be Tina Fey, Lily Tomlin or Amy (Poehler and Schumer) – call me!"
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Yeah, Joel McHale, esp. if he's onscreen at all, seems a supreme way to balance out or deliberately hamstring the proceedings from getting waaay too pander-y or having its head so far up its own ass it needs close-circuit tv to call the game.

If anybody wanted a crystallized example of the coalescence of nerd shit from the Before Times contrasting to the monetization and concentrated marketing-demo development of the last 10 years of geek pop culture, this is it.

We go from a collection of Midwestern weirdos and stand-ups doing this cable-access thing that had to fight for airtime to something so potentially drenched in fan service as to make the guys who just record some funny mp3s to play atop your DVDs and sold online only look positively restrained.

Remember then-programming VP Vincent Faze showing up on the air to defend the network's airing practices of the show against fan outrage-as-delivered-by-post-and-phone in 94/95? The q&a was hosted by Marc Marin!

Fire up your thinkpiece churns.

Correction, Vincent Favale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JCk93vx0M8

Oh man, and I just found the rec.arts.tv.mst3k FAQ. Fire up your copies of tin or nn or rn and remember How Things Were:

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rec.arts.tv.mst3k.announce/cCz63yOjDWc

seems like new mst3k is going to be far more aggressive

oh debbie